40% of teenage boys believe women lie about domestic and sexual violence: new research

only 40%??!

Is this 40% of men saying women usually lie about domestic and sexual violence, or that woman can/sometimes do lie about domestic and sexual violence. 

Or is it 40% thinking the questioner meant do women ever lie about this, 60% thinking the questioner meant do women usually lie.

These headlines often follow badly phrased questions where there’s a perfectly reasonable interpretation to get the controversial answer. But no one is interested in diving into that detail when you can present a title about how fucked the children are

The output of this article is. They did a survey asking people whether feminism has gone too far and other questions like that. Then criticise the responses by saying that everyone who didn’t answer in a certain way must be a misogynist. Which actually just continues and reinforces the cycle of belief that feminism has gone too far to the people who answered that is had gone too far.

Why doesn’t anyone ever ask why? Or what could be done to change the attitude of the people that feel that way?

>We asked whether it is legitimate to use violence to resist feminism. More than 17% of all Australians agree feminism should be resisted with violence.

Nearly one in five Australians. I can’t see how this can be correct unless they define violence far more broadly than the dictionary. Or maybe I just live a highly sheltered life surrounded by people who taught me feminism is about equality of outcome and not oppression of men.

I’ll withdraw judgement until I read the exact questions they used and how they are worded. There is a common trend with online studies where questions are worded vaguely and the researches make huge negative assumptions based off the responses. It sells their study and gets clicks. It will be like “can I squeeze this lemon in your eye?” (No) “AUSTRALIANS WANT LEMONS TO BE BANNED”

What was the exact wording of the question? Because some women do lie about it. It might be a very very small amount, but there have absolutely been cases proven in court where women have claim to be raped and haven’t. In healthcare I’m alway hypervigiante about staying in ear shot of my partner because false allegations have ruined careers.

Now if the question was something like, “do women always lie about sexaual assault” then of course the answer is no.

Humans lie about everything, why would this topic be any different?

People lie in Court ALL THE TIME. It’s called perjury and it is theoretically frowned upon but it is still incredibly common. Family Law disputes get incredibly heated and people say whatever they need to say in order to win.

If you don’t believe me just go to Family Court and sit and watch a few cases as the cross examinations are happening. You will see both men and women lying their absolute asses off and being totally torn to shreds by Barristers every day of the week.

ETA: All you have to do to see that people regularly lie in Family Court is to go to (https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewtoc/au/cases/cth/FedCFamC2F/2025/) and read some case history.

This study is important and it does have some extremely worrying pieces of data in it.

The headline is not it though –

>Perhaps most alarming: roughly 40% of boys aged 13 to 17 agreed that women lie about domestic and sexual violence.

That’s a fact, it should be 100%. I would like to see the question as stated (the article doesn’t provide it) but the premise is flawed to get the information they want from it. Something more like ‘Do you think a woman would lie or invent a story about a domestic or sexual violence incident involving you?’

Like my ex! Who doesn’t consider any abuse apart from ending up in hospital, abuse 😌 Aww, shucks! Not so cute that he’s now in his late 40s, though.

I mean, we just had a football player nearly have his life ruined by blatant lying an lose a year of his life. I had a girl lie about me and cause me unprovable stress in my life. I am certain most women lie about this and all of these lying women need to be held to account because this crime is probably the second worst crime you can commit in society

Man these statistics scream broad questions intended to get the highest possible result.

>Support for violence to resist feminism was highest among adolescent boys (28%), followed closely by adolescent girls (21%).

This makes it very much seem like they worded the questions in a way to catch the broadest number of responses. It’s very easy to design a study to confirm your bias’ if you construct it in a way that utilizes ignorance to give the impression of the issue being worse and the phrasing of these questions without ***a lot*** of additional caveats seems very much like it’s intended to do that. Also you know, posting the article before the paper is ready for publishing, maybe get it published first so I have some independent source to validate your research on some level.

What seems a lot more likely is this study is hitting at some issues in society but it’s using very broad and biased language to present a specific tired narrative on it that’s ignoring the nuance of the issue. The thing that sticks out to me is this

>Social research has shown boys and men increasingly feel alienated, humiliated or uncertain about their place in the world.

and yet all the discussions about them seem to be accusatory and dismissing their perceived experiences. This article like most of the research on the issue does nothing but attack young men for their ignorant or limited perspectives while belittling their emotional experience in a one two punch of blaming them for the conditions they’re exposed to and denying their humanity. Maybe if instead of bringing up stats like this and being all WOE IS ME AREN’T THE YOUNG BOYS TODAY BRAINWASHED INTO BEING EVIL further diminishing their experiences and actually look at the real and verifiable ways young men today are at a significant disadvantage in society in many ways and make them feel acknowledged. One look at school results tells you all you need to know about the validity of boys feeling disregarded when the system they spend their formative years in is doing that.

Men love to falsely accuse women of lying.

40% of people are cunts so the numbers make sense

Lots of anti-intellectualism in the comments regarding statistics as usual, never change r/Australia

What I find really alarming is that my social media in last month were saturated with the Incel content. I’m opposite from target demographic, I’m a middle aged woman. I can’t even imagine what an effect this attack would have on a teenage boy. This isn’t random, it’s carpet bombing propaganda, and the purpose of it is to break the fabrics of society. Mystery is how to bring back to humanity all the boys who already joined the dark side

Ah “bOYs 😡”, the version 2.0 of “MeN 😡”.

There are a lot of defensive people in this thread. Apparently some people take this a attack rather than just a statement of findings.

It doesn’t have to be “us vs them”.