Von der Leyen can hardly be trusted to enact any meaningful policy or change. She’s demonstrated her hubris and incompetence many times over.
Due_Perspective7884 on
The EU relies on the system of passive-aggressively declaring they’re starting to realize they can’t rely on the rules-based system anymore. Going on 18 years now (at least).
mods4mods on
I feel that this has been said many times already, with no concrete actions taken yet.
Business_Mortgage8 on
Rules matter, but they only work when everyone agrees to follow them.
Toums95 on
Especially because the EU never relied on a “rule-based” system that is not “the West can do as it pleases” im the first place
Intrepid-Routine-875 on
We’re so screwed.
Crafty_Aspect8122 on
International law is mostly fiction
Over-Willingness-933 on
The problem with a rules based system, is countries like Russia and China don’t respect it. The US has figured this out, and the ousting of Mudero shows this. Although the EU interpretation on international law always needs reviewing because they have convinced themselves that Israel and the US attack on Iran is illegal when Iran has declared war on Israel and has used proxies it funds to attack Israel. International Law can’t really say you can’t strike a country back if it has attacked you. Iran has attacked Israel first.
nontrollusername on
Scrap the UN while you’re at it
xiaopewpew on
Which mckinsey consultant taught them to say this?
IslandVisible5023 on
No shit
Overton_Glazier on
Lol yeah, you made that clear with how you turned a blind eye to Israel the last few years.
Dear_Soup_962 on
Rules-based system is dying, because the big boys are following rules less and less. (USA, Russia, China)
engai on
Why, then, did you help break the so-called “rules based order”, Ursula? dumb-ass!
It only applied when convenient, never when people that should be held accountable came into question. A million people were killed by and because of US and UK in Iraq, and not a single person in high places was put on trial for it. Were you relying on “rules-based” bullshit back then, Ursula?
It’s amazing to see this bullshit doesn’t hold water when “other” people start asking to apply it. Fuck these hypocrite ass-wipes.
cookiesnooper on
Von der Leyen as always late to the party.
Filias9 on
Laws are not relevant if you don’t have courts and police. It’s time to find out that strongly worded letters aren’t replacement for that.
TruthHistorical7515 on
The same EU that ignore ‘rules-based’ system in Gaza?
LunarLongLegs on
Investing in common military is good. But I hope that doesn’t mean discarding the international law. What makes EU a better ally and partner is it’s adherence to international law.
generaalalcazar on
Without rules there is barbarism (not babarism, that would be great).
Rules should be applied and followed with respect especially when times get rough.
Justitias on
This is like teaching your pappa how to f*ck. EU with some of it’s old member states has the longest history of exploiting and screwing over other nations and peoples. So, I truly wish we don’t get that engire restarted since there’s a lot of experience and know-how for non-rules-based system…
QuirkyWish3081 on
I see she was schmoozing up to Trump again trying to defend the war. Ugh. Insufferable kiss ass
Intergalatic_Baker on
Rules Based order is dead so long as you don’t have any hard power to backstop it… Economics will only deter noncompliance from other states so far, some will likely decide to listen if there’s more global presence of the global superpower that’s still a bit too fragmented to be one just yet.
recurrence on
No wonder Carney got that standing ovation. His approach to middle powers uniting is a good one.
Hopeful_Addition7834 on
Abracadabra:
Welcome to today’s episode of why Hungarians don’t want too close ties with Western countries.
Of course EU leaders inflate a crisis artificially, so that they can try to blackmail smaller countries to submit to them.
A thousand years old story, and a thousand reasons to justify dictatorical nationalist leaders in Eastern countries.
utter_master on
von der Loser should start packing while she still has the freedom of choice, or risk leaving in custody instead.
there are plenty of way more suitable people for the job. De Wever being the latest front runner.
and she should take the onerous deals. Mercosur, India, 90 billion “loan” etc, down with her
n0namean0nym0us on
One step closer to russia, eh useful idiots?
Falsus on
It is the opposite no? Rules matters more than ever when there is such a threat to them and a subset of people who blatantly ignores them. It is just a question of enforcing them.
If everyone starts ignoring the rules we only invite chaos and corruption, even if we manage to stave off these attacks.
sajukktheeternal on
Yes, we can obviously no longer rely on it. But we need to insist on it. And we need to enforce it whenever we are able to
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Damn right
Von der Leyen can hardly be trusted to enact any meaningful policy or change. She’s demonstrated her hubris and incompetence many times over.
The EU relies on the system of passive-aggressively declaring they’re starting to realize they can’t rely on the rules-based system anymore. Going on 18 years now (at least).
I feel that this has been said many times already, with no concrete actions taken yet.
Rules matter, but they only work when everyone agrees to follow them.
Especially because the EU never relied on a “rule-based” system that is not “the West can do as it pleases” im the first place
We’re so screwed.
International law is mostly fiction
The problem with a rules based system, is countries like Russia and China don’t respect it. The US has figured this out, and the ousting of Mudero shows this. Although the EU interpretation on international law always needs reviewing because they have convinced themselves that Israel and the US attack on Iran is illegal when Iran has declared war on Israel and has used proxies it funds to attack Israel. International Law can’t really say you can’t strike a country back if it has attacked you. Iran has attacked Israel first.
Scrap the UN while you’re at it
Which mckinsey consultant taught them to say this?
No shit
Lol yeah, you made that clear with how you turned a blind eye to Israel the last few years.
Rules-based system is dying, because the big boys are following rules less and less. (USA, Russia, China)
Why, then, did you help break the so-called “rules based order”, Ursula? dumb-ass!
It only applied when convenient, never when people that should be held accountable came into question. A million people were killed by and because of US and UK in Iraq, and not a single person in high places was put on trial for it. Were you relying on “rules-based” bullshit back then, Ursula?
It’s amazing to see this bullshit doesn’t hold water when “other” people start asking to apply it. Fuck these hypocrite ass-wipes.
Von der Leyen as always late to the party.
Laws are not relevant if you don’t have courts and police. It’s time to find out that strongly worded letters aren’t replacement for that.
The same EU that ignore ‘rules-based’ system in Gaza?
Investing in common military is good. But I hope that doesn’t mean discarding the international law. What makes EU a better ally and partner is it’s adherence to international law.
Without rules there is barbarism (not babarism, that would be great).
Rules should be applied and followed with respect especially when times get rough.
This is like teaching your pappa how to f*ck. EU with some of it’s old member states has the longest history of exploiting and screwing over other nations and peoples. So, I truly wish we don’t get that engire restarted since there’s a lot of experience and know-how for non-rules-based system…
I see she was schmoozing up to Trump again trying to defend the war. Ugh. Insufferable kiss ass
Rules Based order is dead so long as you don’t have any hard power to backstop it… Economics will only deter noncompliance from other states so far, some will likely decide to listen if there’s more global presence of the global superpower that’s still a bit too fragmented to be one just yet.
No wonder Carney got that standing ovation. His approach to middle powers uniting is a good one.
Abracadabra:
Welcome to today’s episode of why Hungarians don’t want too close ties with Western countries.
Of course EU leaders inflate a crisis artificially, so that they can try to blackmail smaller countries to submit to them.
A thousand years old story, and a thousand reasons to justify dictatorical nationalist leaders in Eastern countries.
von der Loser should start packing while she still has the freedom of choice, or risk leaving in custody instead.
there are plenty of way more suitable people for the job. De Wever being the latest front runner.
and she should take the onerous deals. Mercosur, India, 90 billion “loan” etc, down with her
One step closer to russia, eh useful idiots?
It is the opposite no? Rules matters more than ever when there is such a threat to them and a subset of people who blatantly ignores them. It is just a question of enforcing them.
If everyone starts ignoring the rules we only invite chaos and corruption, even if we manage to stave off these attacks.
Yes, we can obviously no longer rely on it. But we need to insist on it. And we need to enforce it whenever we are able to