If the new guy is alive (there was an AP report March third that would make him dead today, can also be found in Kenya times), he just lost his whole family and is injured enough to not be seen right now (they would trot him out for a video otherwise). I can’t imagine if he is alive the rage he feels, and he would be ending it.
Arnold_Rambo on
Those are some bold words coming from a country who couldn’t protect their leader in the first week of war
mrtoomba on
Irgc is in command now? That’s interesting. This is called a coup.
Wintersage7 on
Exactly. Once they are off the board and can no longer call any shots. On anyone.
Including Iranians.
Modest_Muse_ on
Wait…so we are at war?
jibersins on
Iran would definitely be the black knight of countries.
aluke000 on
Considering how the US seems to be planning on assassinating every new IRGC leader until one is willing to surrender or capitulate, someone will indeed need to be that guy to end it.
EnterTheDark on
USians in the comments conveniently forgetting that they started this war, dishonorably, so of course the Iranians are not gonna be willing to negotiate.
free_username_ on
The general public isn’t seeing anything relevant since days ago. What we can infer, is that allied U.S. nations are pressuring this conflict to end as they face critical energy shortages.
Plane-Breakfast-8817 on
So this statement is essentially saying the Americans just got sucked into a war. They can’t now say “the jobs done, we are going home” as the Iranians can keep the Strait of Hormuz closed, and launch missiles at anyone they feel like.
ForsakenRacism on
K bro we don’t all like trump but I don’t think your exactly in the position to be making demands
LOHare on
This is a brilliant way to end the war. Trump will double down in him being the one to end the war, and cease the bombing.
Sapparo25 on
Take your fight to the Trump golf course! Lazy ass is there everyday
accountingforlove83 on
Wow, the number of people willing to sympathize with a genocidal Islamist autocrat is astonishing, even for Reddit.
i_am_a_lurker69 on
I AM THE ONE WHO KNOCKS, SKYLER.
Kooky_Parsley9920 on
Trump can say whatever he wants but Netanyahu isn’t ready to end it. He wants to annihilate Iran. The US is happy with a dictator that they can control. The U.S. and Israel want two different outcomes.
Worth-Lead-5944 on
Iran’s theory of victory is an awful, awful lot more plausible than Trump’s.
The US has been threatening to invade Iran for over two decades and Iran has been preparing for it for that whole time. Their strategy has been consistent and has been evaluated by the US military planners a great many times. Each time the US military planners reached the same conclusion, they can’t win.
The US theory of victory relies upon achieving regime change without committing forces. It relies upon some local or proxy force defeating a heavily armed police state in a dictatorship that is entirely willing to massacre its own civilian population. It’s not a plausible theory of victory. You can’t bomb them into submission without ever committing any ground forces. And the more bombs you drop on them the less sympathetic the civilian population that you’re relying on for your victory becomes. The Iranian government has spent decades telling their people that Israel and the US want to destroy them all. During ongoing negotiations during their religious holiday the US suddenly launched an unprovoked missile campaign that killed 150 schoolgirls. The theory of victory here is simply not realistic.
Meanwhile the Iranian theory of victory is simply to fuck up the neighbourhood. To make people go “things were better two weeks ago, why did he have to ruin it”. To make a lot of rich and influential Arabs pressure Trump. To cause global inflation. To cause political pressure within the US. Now sure, technically it’s not the US that blew up Bahrain’s refinery, it’s Iran. But they can’t pressure Iran because Iran is functionally immune to diplomatic pressure and it’s not like you can double bomb them. But they can pressure Trump.
And there’s not really much that can be done to stop Iran from pressuring the region and the global economy. At the narrowest point you can see the far side of the Straits from the mountains on the Iranian side. You don’t need high tech radar installations to hit a big slow moving flammable oil tanker moving in literal sight range. They can launch drones or man portable missiles from the back of a truck and be under cover seconds later. Iran doesn’t need to hit US assets, literally everything in range of it is an effective target because every hit puts blame on Trump for taking a status quo that had been essentially stable for fifty years and destroying it. Stability in the region is a critical US geopolitical interest, all Iran needs to do is destabilize things. To rock the boat in the densest concentration of oil refineries in the world.
Let’s say in a few months Iran is still hitting oil tankers and the global oil shortage is compounding but the US is still dropping bombs on schools. Who is going to feel more pressured into going into negotiations? The IRGC or Trump? Keep in mind that Trump is famously concerned with the stock market and chickens out whenever the line goes down. And that he is famously bullied and bribed by foreign leaders into doing whatever they want. Iran doesn’t have to outlast the US military, it just has to outlast Trump. Trump, who is openly talking about how he is already bored of this war and wants to move on to the next one. Iran is a lot more committed to this than he is.
But of course everyone in the DoD already knew this. When Bush asked them if they could regime change Iran he was told that they war gamed it out and he would have to do a full ground invasion with serious casualties. When Obama asked them they told him the same. When Trump asked them in his first term they told him the same. When Biden asked them they told him the same. There’s a reason that the US has never tried to do this before and that reason is that they don’t think it’s winnable. The problem now is that Trump and his team are no longer listening to the DoD experts.
sriki on
starting a war Is easier than stopping it. just takes 1 party to start a war, but stopping it requires consent from all involved parties. hope senses prevail and we move towards peace.
OccidoViper on
Trump is just going to nuke Iran I fear because he has never faced any consequences
InsanelyAverageFella on
I love that Iran’s IRGC is as stupid as Trump to play these stupid word games to have the last word. This war will never end because both the IRGC and Trump will take major risks and ignore common sense and safety to simply have the last word.
This war isn’t going to end anytime soon if both sides are like children.
Jacloup on
Trump will Taco and claim victory. It appears like he might have started already. They cannot remove that regime unless they are planning a massive ground invasion mark my word.
Sea_Substance_921 on
True dat, when one has nothing to lose they tend to have the upper hand
KasouYuri on
All the people supporting the IRGC during suspicious hours.
No takebacks! You can’t just murder 150+ schoolgirls, their leader, and demand the war is stopped when you are too chicken to fight when losing
Kaffe-Mumriken on
This is like my ex wife after I declared a divorce an tried to take the kids to Utah
ashleyshaefferr on
“No ***I*** will be the one to do it!”
“No no only I get to!”
Fuckin idiots
fusillade762 on
Sanctions lifted on Russia, anti aircraft missiles destined for Ukraine expended. NATO even more alienated. Epstein files wiped from the headlines.
Mission Accomplished.
SgtHulkasBigToeJam on
Not a political take here … but wouldn’t that be Trump’s goal? Hurt them until they concede defeat, thus determining the end of the war.
Doubt_full_ on
Iran can’t sustain the asymmetric war in the long run on being isolated. It can officially be in a state of war like North Korea but needs the support of China and Russia.
Renegade_Hat on
I like how people are acting as though there’s an off road to peace when it’s clear that any pause would just be used to rearm and prepare again. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me dozens of times shame on me is an apt saying here
Blockhead47 on
I’m glad they said “war” instead of “world”.
Thats nice 😊 👍
KamKorn on
You killed the leader of a country and many others that were in government. You can’t just tuck your tail and run after that. What do you think this is?
mikeinanaheim2 on
“You can decide to fuck the gorilla, but the gorilla decides when you’re done.”
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If the new guy is alive (there was an AP report March third that would make him dead today, can also be found in Kenya times), he just lost his whole family and is injured enough to not be seen right now (they would trot him out for a video otherwise). I can’t imagine if he is alive the rage he feels, and he would be ending it.
Those are some bold words coming from a country who couldn’t protect their leader in the first week of war
Irgc is in command now? That’s interesting. This is called a coup.
Exactly. Once they are off the board and can no longer call any shots. On anyone.
Including Iranians.
Wait…so we are at war?
Iran would definitely be the black knight of countries.
Considering how the US seems to be planning on assassinating every new IRGC leader until one is willing to surrender or capitulate, someone will indeed need to be that guy to end it.
USians in the comments conveniently forgetting that they started this war, dishonorably, so of course the Iranians are not gonna be willing to negotiate.
The general public isn’t seeing anything relevant since days ago. What we can infer, is that allied U.S. nations are pressuring this conflict to end as they face critical energy shortages.
So this statement is essentially saying the Americans just got sucked into a war. They can’t now say “the jobs done, we are going home” as the Iranians can keep the Strait of Hormuz closed, and launch missiles at anyone they feel like.
K bro we don’t all like trump but I don’t think your exactly in the position to be making demands
This is a brilliant way to end the war. Trump will double down in him being the one to end the war, and cease the bombing.
Take your fight to the Trump golf course! Lazy ass is there everyday
Wow, the number of people willing to sympathize with a genocidal Islamist autocrat is astonishing, even for Reddit.
I AM THE ONE WHO KNOCKS, SKYLER.
Trump can say whatever he wants but Netanyahu isn’t ready to end it. He wants to annihilate Iran. The US is happy with a dictator that they can control. The U.S. and Israel want two different outcomes.
Iran’s theory of victory is an awful, awful lot more plausible than Trump’s.
The US has been threatening to invade Iran for over two decades and Iran has been preparing for it for that whole time. Their strategy has been consistent and has been evaluated by the US military planners a great many times. Each time the US military planners reached the same conclusion, they can’t win.
The US theory of victory relies upon achieving regime change without committing forces. It relies upon some local or proxy force defeating a heavily armed police state in a dictatorship that is entirely willing to massacre its own civilian population. It’s not a plausible theory of victory. You can’t bomb them into submission without ever committing any ground forces. And the more bombs you drop on them the less sympathetic the civilian population that you’re relying on for your victory becomes. The Iranian government has spent decades telling their people that Israel and the US want to destroy them all. During ongoing negotiations during their religious holiday the US suddenly launched an unprovoked missile campaign that killed 150 schoolgirls. The theory of victory here is simply not realistic.
Meanwhile the Iranian theory of victory is simply to fuck up the neighbourhood. To make people go “things were better two weeks ago, why did he have to ruin it”. To make a lot of rich and influential Arabs pressure Trump. To cause global inflation. To cause political pressure within the US. Now sure, technically it’s not the US that blew up Bahrain’s refinery, it’s Iran. But they can’t pressure Iran because Iran is functionally immune to diplomatic pressure and it’s not like you can double bomb them. But they can pressure Trump.
And there’s not really much that can be done to stop Iran from pressuring the region and the global economy. At the narrowest point you can see the far side of the Straits from the mountains on the Iranian side. You don’t need high tech radar installations to hit a big slow moving flammable oil tanker moving in literal sight range. They can launch drones or man portable missiles from the back of a truck and be under cover seconds later. Iran doesn’t need to hit US assets, literally everything in range of it is an effective target because every hit puts blame on Trump for taking a status quo that had been essentially stable for fifty years and destroying it. Stability in the region is a critical US geopolitical interest, all Iran needs to do is destabilize things. To rock the boat in the densest concentration of oil refineries in the world.
Let’s say in a few months Iran is still hitting oil tankers and the global oil shortage is compounding but the US is still dropping bombs on schools. Who is going to feel more pressured into going into negotiations? The IRGC or Trump? Keep in mind that Trump is famously concerned with the stock market and chickens out whenever the line goes down. And that he is famously bullied and bribed by foreign leaders into doing whatever they want. Iran doesn’t have to outlast the US military, it just has to outlast Trump. Trump, who is openly talking about how he is already bored of this war and wants to move on to the next one. Iran is a lot more committed to this than he is.
But of course everyone in the DoD already knew this. When Bush asked them if they could regime change Iran he was told that they war gamed it out and he would have to do a full ground invasion with serious casualties. When Obama asked them they told him the same. When Trump asked them in his first term they told him the same. When Biden asked them they told him the same. There’s a reason that the US has never tried to do this before and that reason is that they don’t think it’s winnable. The problem now is that Trump and his team are no longer listening to the DoD experts.
starting a war Is easier than stopping it. just takes 1 party to start a war, but stopping it requires consent from all involved parties. hope senses prevail and we move towards peace.
Trump is just going to nuke Iran I fear because he has never faced any consequences
I love that Iran’s IRGC is as stupid as Trump to play these stupid word games to have the last word. This war will never end because both the IRGC and Trump will take major risks and ignore common sense and safety to simply have the last word.
This war isn’t going to end anytime soon if both sides are like children.
Trump will Taco and claim victory. It appears like he might have started already. They cannot remove that regime unless they are planning a massive ground invasion mark my word.
True dat, when one has nothing to lose they tend to have the upper hand
All the people supporting the IRGC during suspicious hours.
https://www.piratewires.com/p/the-terrorist-propaganda-to-reddit-pipeline
Public international dispute
What a time to be alive.
No takebacks! You can’t just murder 150+ schoolgirls, their leader, and demand the war is stopped when you are too chicken to fight when losing
This is like my ex wife after I declared a divorce an tried to take the kids to Utah
“No ***I*** will be the one to do it!”
“No no only I get to!”
Fuckin idiots
Sanctions lifted on Russia, anti aircraft missiles destined for Ukraine expended. NATO even more alienated. Epstein files wiped from the headlines.
Mission Accomplished.
Not a political take here … but wouldn’t that be Trump’s goal? Hurt them until they concede defeat, thus determining the end of the war.
Iran can’t sustain the asymmetric war in the long run on being isolated. It can officially be in a state of war like North Korea but needs the support of China and Russia.
I like how people are acting as though there’s an off road to peace when it’s clear that any pause would just be used to rearm and prepare again. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me dozens of times shame on me is an apt saying here
I’m glad they said “war” instead of “world”.
Thats nice 😊 👍
You killed the leader of a country and many others that were in government. You can’t just tuck your tail and run after that. What do you think this is?
“You can decide to fuck the gorilla, but the gorilla decides when you’re done.”