Glad to see the workers rights reform committed to in the manifesto, as well as conversion therapy ban
Scattered97 on
I will say what I said in the other thread:
An incredibly tame manifesto. I was downvoted to hell when the election was called for suggesting that nothing would change with this bloke in power, but I challenge anyone to look at this and tell me otherwise. Wealth creation means **nothing** without wealth redistribution, which isn’t mentioned. Why aren’t they nationalising water? Why aren’t they lifting the two-child benefit cap? Why aren’t they promising mass social housebuilding? They will hire thousands of new teachers – great, but that’s *already happening!* What are they going to do about retention, hmm? Fuck all? Yeah, thought so. This manifesto is so *vague*. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Labour manifesto with less *actual policy*. This is a manifesto that promises nothing but the continuation of failed, tired, out-of-date neoliberalism, which suits the super-rich just fine but will do NOTHING to deal with the actual challenges facing us.
Labour will tinker around the edges for five years and then be voted out by a very frustrated electorate that were promised change and didn’t get any, to be replaced – most likely – with an extreme far-right government, mirroring much of the rest of Europe. **Fuck you,** Keir Starmer, for taking away all the hope I had and lying to get me to vote for you in 2020, you dishonest, self-serving, slimy, conniving fucking charlatan!
DWOL82 on
Bit rich calling it ‘Change’ . If we really want change we need to break the 2 party system.
dewittless on
If you think this manifesto is tame that’s because it’s a list of things that will actually happen.
CardiffCity1234 on
For years I was told to wait for his manifesto before judging but it’s exactly as expected.
Flagship policies like 0.2 teachers per school, 2% increase in NHS appointments (which won’t even cover population growth) are pathetic.
We are going to see what we’re seeing in Europe and USA, centrist parties failing to address fundamental problems which will lead to extreme right wing parties coming in.
This will happen and the left will still be blamed.
I like the manifesto, some strong points; nationalised rail and energy for one.
The end of mandatory assessments if you fail a job when disabled = a brilliant safety net and should allow us to apply without that constant fear in the background.
The new race and equal pay act is also great.
I like a lot of their ideas, until we hit the EU – no customs Union, no single market, no free movement etc… that’s all shit tbh.
No commitment to remove voter ID is another lame one for me.
I’ll vote labour, but that EU attitude needs to shift in the future imo.
Outred93 on
They’re committed to “looking at options for a replacement of the House of Lords.” Good lord. Labour and the Tories are so afraid of ACTUAL reform. This is the same commitment Blair and Brown made. They have no real interest in constitutional reform, which, in my eyes, is what we really need.
Scared-Room-9962 on
I can’t believe it’s not a complete over throw of Capatlism.
Electric_Death_1349 on
Promising “Change” while simultaneously committing to maintaining the status quo
Aflyingmongoose on
Well, it’s hard to argue with most of that. It all seems pretty sensible and reasonable.
My only concern is if it will work. It’s all very well saying you want more police, teachers, to fix the train lines, it’s another thing entirely to have to actually grapple with the realities of those industries.
That’s a strong swing in the labour direction for me. Shame I don’t really like any of the people at the top of their party at the moment.
Aflyingmongoose on
No mention of leasehold reforms sadly.
They said they would continue to push for the reforms that the Tories failed to deliver, but nothing in writing.
lizardk101 on
Bit of a “damp squib” that.
Change for “change” sake.
Nothing on HS2. HS2 is badly needed for capacity not just now, but the coming decades. WCML is struggling already, and the only way to cope is to build out HS2. If you want growth, and infrastructure development you’ve got to build HS2, and to go full ahead with the Euston station upgrades.
Nothing on Brexit. We need to change our relationship to Europe, and that means a new deal, to ease the restrictions on goods, and services going both ways. Checks on goods aren’t fully implemented, and no doubt Labour will be forced to, at which point inflation is going to increase again as it’ll cause disruptions.
I agree we need the tories out, and I like the proposed regulations around MPs with regards to ethics but this manifesto is a very continuity Cameron manifesto.
Zepren7 on
Was a true undecided voter until today. If Labour can’t offer anything of substance, what’s the point? Pathetic. Our expectations were low but holy shit
Darkgreenbirdofprey on
“So yeah we’re actually going to keep things pretty much the same actually”
Helpful-Wolverine748 on
This honestly looks like a pre-Truss Tory manifesto.
No-Ninja455 on
‘Royal Mail remains a key part of the UK’s infrastructure. Labour will ensure that any proposed takeover is robustly scrutinised and that appropriate guarantees are forthcoming that protect the interests of the workforce, customers and the United Kingdom, including the need to maintain a comprehensive universal service obligation’
Hasn’t it gone already?
And why is it a cult of personality to him, this photo shots are ridiculous
dj4y_94 on
One major thing here that I think people after radical change are sleeping on is planning reform.
Think how many houses, buildings, or key infrastructure doesn’t get built because it gets held up by planning. Think how many of these things also get delayed with costs spiralling to ridiculous levels because of hold ups by planning.
If they can get the reform right it will genuinely be huge.
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The one you’ve all been waiting for? The Labour Party manifesto has dropped this afternoon.
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Glad to see the workers rights reform committed to in the manifesto, as well as conversion therapy ban
I will say what I said in the other thread:
An incredibly tame manifesto. I was downvoted to hell when the election was called for suggesting that nothing would change with this bloke in power, but I challenge anyone to look at this and tell me otherwise. Wealth creation means **nothing** without wealth redistribution, which isn’t mentioned. Why aren’t they nationalising water? Why aren’t they lifting the two-child benefit cap? Why aren’t they promising mass social housebuilding? They will hire thousands of new teachers – great, but that’s *already happening!* What are they going to do about retention, hmm? Fuck all? Yeah, thought so. This manifesto is so *vague*. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Labour manifesto with less *actual policy*. This is a manifesto that promises nothing but the continuation of failed, tired, out-of-date neoliberalism, which suits the super-rich just fine but will do NOTHING to deal with the actual challenges facing us.
Labour will tinker around the edges for five years and then be voted out by a very frustrated electorate that were promised change and didn’t get any, to be replaced – most likely – with an extreme far-right government, mirroring much of the rest of Europe. **Fuck you,** Keir Starmer, for taking away all the hope I had and lying to get me to vote for you in 2020, you dishonest, self-serving, slimy, conniving fucking charlatan!
Bit rich calling it ‘Change’ . If we really want change we need to break the 2 party system.
If you think this manifesto is tame that’s because it’s a list of things that will actually happen.
For years I was told to wait for his manifesto before judging but it’s exactly as expected.
Flagship policies like 0.2 teachers per school, 2% increase in NHS appointments (which won’t even cover population growth) are pathetic.
We are going to see what we’re seeing in Europe and USA, centrist parties failing to address fundamental problems which will lead to extreme right wing parties coming in.
This will happen and the left will still be blamed.
When I posted this exact thread a few hours ago it was removed, weird that. https://reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/1devw5l/labours_manifesto/
I like the manifesto, some strong points; nationalised rail and energy for one.
The end of mandatory assessments if you fail a job when disabled = a brilliant safety net and should allow us to apply without that constant fear in the background.
The new race and equal pay act is also great.
I like a lot of their ideas, until we hit the EU – no customs Union, no single market, no free movement etc… that’s all shit tbh.
No commitment to remove voter ID is another lame one for me.
I’ll vote labour, but that EU attitude needs to shift in the future imo.
They’re committed to “looking at options for a replacement of the House of Lords.” Good lord. Labour and the Tories are so afraid of ACTUAL reform. This is the same commitment Blair and Brown made. They have no real interest in constitutional reform, which, in my eyes, is what we really need.
I can’t believe it’s not a complete over throw of Capatlism.
Promising “Change” while simultaneously committing to maintaining the status quo
Well, it’s hard to argue with most of that. It all seems pretty sensible and reasonable.
My only concern is if it will work. It’s all very well saying you want more police, teachers, to fix the train lines, it’s another thing entirely to have to actually grapple with the realities of those industries.
That’s a strong swing in the labour direction for me. Shame I don’t really like any of the people at the top of their party at the moment.
No mention of leasehold reforms sadly.
They said they would continue to push for the reforms that the Tories failed to deliver, but nothing in writing.
Bit of a “damp squib” that.
Change for “change” sake.
Nothing on HS2. HS2 is badly needed for capacity not just now, but the coming decades. WCML is struggling already, and the only way to cope is to build out HS2. If you want growth, and infrastructure development you’ve got to build HS2, and to go full ahead with the Euston station upgrades.
Nothing on Brexit. We need to change our relationship to Europe, and that means a new deal, to ease the restrictions on goods, and services going both ways. Checks on goods aren’t fully implemented, and no doubt Labour will be forced to, at which point inflation is going to increase again as it’ll cause disruptions.
I agree we need the tories out, and I like the proposed regulations around MPs with regards to ethics but this manifesto is a very continuity Cameron manifesto.
Was a true undecided voter until today. If Labour can’t offer anything of substance, what’s the point? Pathetic. Our expectations were low but holy shit
“So yeah we’re actually going to keep things pretty much the same actually”
This honestly looks like a pre-Truss Tory manifesto.
‘Royal Mail remains a key part of the UK’s infrastructure. Labour will ensure that any proposed takeover is robustly scrutinised and that appropriate guarantees are forthcoming that protect the interests of the workforce, customers and the United Kingdom, including the need to maintain a comprehensive universal service obligation’
Hasn’t it gone already?
And why is it a cult of personality to him, this photo shots are ridiculous
One major thing here that I think people after radical change are sleeping on is planning reform.
Think how many houses, buildings, or key infrastructure doesn’t get built because it gets held up by planning. Think how many of these things also get delayed with costs spiralling to ridiculous levels because of hold ups by planning.
If they can get the reform right it will genuinely be huge.