Oh nooooo the consumer could get…something useful?! We must stop it!
…that is what this reads/feels like, somehow. o.o
mediocre_remnants on
> Another issue — the primary concern that utilities have raised with lawmakers — is that during an outage, a panel could continue generating electricity and send the power through a home’s wiring and back out to the grid, where it could endanger a lineworker.
Linemen are already aware of that because the same thing happens when people plug gas powered generators into an outlet when their power goes out. It’s not a new issue, people have been doing this for decades.
It also ignores the fact that these plug-in panels stop generating power when the grid goes down.
The power companies are clearly against this because it cuts into their profits.
rnilf on
> the primary concern that utilities have raised with lawmakers — is that during an outage, a panel could continue generating electricity and send the power through a home’s wiring and back out to the grid, where it could endanger a lineworker.
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> plug-in solar supporters explained that the systems stop generating power when the grid is down. Still, lawmakers let the legislation die without taking a vote on it.
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> German utilities expressed many of the same concerns nearly a decade ago when plug-in solar started to become popular in Germany. But with more than a million systems installed, no safety incidents have been reported for customers who used the panels as instructed
It’s a damn shame that instead of doing a pivot, utility companies would rather dig their heels and to stop the future.
HAd they been forward thinking, had they not been frozen with fear over share price and annual bonuses, it could have been them making investments in the future then ultimately in position to be the supplier of solar collection panels.
But nooo…can and will only maximize profit because share holders want money now!
NoBuenoAtAll on
then those utilities need to get fucked up, we need some goddamn regulation in this country
davidthefat on
Why don’t utility companies invest in solar? Be the ones selling the solar equipment to the consumers?
Starship_Taru on
If I could pass any law. It would be to stop companies from using PACs to fuck with the free market.
Stuff like this is why they keep republicans and democrats hating each other as much as possible.
Because I bet both sides agree pretty hard on getting shit like this out of our political system.
Best to keep us fighting over the 10% of stuff we disagree on.
Z0mbiejay on
Anyone have a good recommendation for one? I’m getting sick of $400+ electric bills all summer
melgish on
In 2020 Florida Power and Light refused to allow me to turn my system on because it was “too large for my average usage”. It took a complainant to the state to get them motivated.
stef_eda on
There are two issues that must be addressed IMHO:
1. if the panel connects to the home outlet with a male plug, this plug has exposed AC (110V or 230V) voltage. This is extremely dangerous. A toaster has a male plug but does not provide any power when disconnected. A solar panel provides current to the home lines, so the male plug is ac powered. A solution must be implemented to avoid potential electro shock.
2. In case of utility grid outage, these outlet connected panels must stop feeding electricity to the home lines (and therefore to the grid) immediately, otherwise utility workers are at risk. They assume the grid is shut down while some panel is energizing it.
Both issues are easily manageable. Just ensure it is done.
Frostsorrow on
Lol and here’s my province doing awesome again. Rebates for solar panels, and they’ll buy excess energy at I think ¢50ish/kW.
itsRobbie_ on
I’ve heard solar panels regularly “explode”. Has that been fixed yet?
JoeSicko on
Anybody who has bought a house from a home electrician will be at risk. You know, the guys who barely know what they’re doing, but do it cheap …
Royal-Bumblebee4817 on
Genuine capitalism
PianoPatient8168 on
We can’t provide your energy needs without rolling blackouts because we’re letting data centers Hoover up all the energy but how dare you make your own energy for free!!!!
dreadthripper on
Given that my power company is a regulated monopoly, I’m guessing the rate setting body let them raise fixed fees and transmission fees to make themselves whole.
In the end, the power company will be ok, the electricity mix will be greener, and low income people will end up worse off financially bc they can’t afford the panels.
DataCassette on
I’m sitting here at my MIL’s house because my wife and I have been without power for well over 24 hours.
raiansar on
utilities trying to delay solar panels is like blockbuster trying to delay streaming. you can slow it down but you can’t stop people from wanting cheaper energy
sharkowictz on
I started seeing these articles everywhere recently, feels like astroturfing. Hard to say because it looks like a useful technology and a bs response by utilities.
DevoidHT on
Can’t monopolize the sun so they have to keep people from harnessing it
ReactionJifs on
In the future, everything will be powered by renewable energy.
You cannot pitch a future where we still burn diminishing fossil fuels, you’d look like an idiot.
Renewable energy is inevitable, so get on board or get out of the way.
JuliusSeizuresalad on
Aren’t solar panels pretty easy to begin with?
CommandCoralian on
Oh no, it would be a real shame if someone recommended some decent brands so I can start to fill my back yard. Won’t someone think of the bottom line of the poor CEOs!
Confident-Pace4314 on
Against the constitution
Blayzzin on
Has any of the brand passed UL certs?? I am interested to buy one. Fight the power!!
Even_Establishment95 on
I live in the southwest, and why we don’t have awnings with solar panels mandatory on every new build is beyond me. Shade plus power. Instead shade is not deemed necessary and utilities are ridiculous. There’s a small museum that has a covered parking lot full of solar panels, which is absolutely brilliant. Why is that not everywhere?! It is only getting hotter and more expensive down here, and all progress is blocked.
fielvras on
Big Corps are buying patents to stop development of meaningful things that could cut their revenue.
When I learned that as a child my sense for justice conpletely vanished. I basically was set neutral and went like “I’ll just have to endure my time on this planet.”
BrokenSmilePhoto on
In a strange twist of events, I was just thinking yesterday, “what if the utility companies are the ones stagnating the further development of solar?” Huh, timing was about on point with that random thought.
Rakn on
Ah fuck. I thought there was some kind of breakthrough. But those things are pretty standard where I live.
moosemademusic on
You can just put energy back into the grid from an outlet? Huh
shecho18 on
I’ve been hearing about solar panels, wind turbines and ocean energy my entire life. They’re always almost ready or just around the corner. Meanwhile, fossil fuels still run the world. At this pace, renewables won’t fully replace them within my lifetime. Not unless we reach a crisis point first.
It often feels like progress only accelerates when the consequences become impossible to ignore, and even that lately has become questionable.
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Oh nooooo the consumer could get…something useful?! We must stop it!
…that is what this reads/feels like, somehow. o.o
> Another issue — the primary concern that utilities have raised with lawmakers — is that during an outage, a panel could continue generating electricity and send the power through a home’s wiring and back out to the grid, where it could endanger a lineworker.
Linemen are already aware of that because the same thing happens when people plug gas powered generators into an outlet when their power goes out. It’s not a new issue, people have been doing this for decades.
It also ignores the fact that these plug-in panels stop generating power when the grid goes down.
The power companies are clearly against this because it cuts into their profits.
> the primary concern that utilities have raised with lawmakers — is that during an outage, a panel could continue generating electricity and send the power through a home’s wiring and back out to the grid, where it could endanger a lineworker.
–
> plug-in solar supporters explained that the systems stop generating power when the grid is down. Still, lawmakers let the legislation die without taking a vote on it.
–
> German utilities expressed many of the same concerns nearly a decade ago when plug-in solar started to become popular in Germany. But with more than a million systems installed, no safety incidents have been reported for customers who used the panels as instructed
Who falls for this shit?
Oh, right, Americans. Collectively, we’re fucking idiots.
It’s a damn shame that instead of doing a pivot, utility companies would rather dig their heels and to stop the future.
HAd they been forward thinking, had they not been frozen with fear over share price and annual bonuses, it could have been them making investments in the future then ultimately in position to be the supplier of solar collection panels.
But nooo…can and will only maximize profit because share holders want money now!
then those utilities need to get fucked up, we need some goddamn regulation in this country
Why don’t utility companies invest in solar? Be the ones selling the solar equipment to the consumers?
If I could pass any law. It would be to stop companies from using PACs to fuck with the free market.
Stuff like this is why they keep republicans and democrats hating each other as much as possible.
Because I bet both sides agree pretty hard on getting shit like this out of our political system.
Best to keep us fighting over the 10% of stuff we disagree on.
Anyone have a good recommendation for one? I’m getting sick of $400+ electric bills all summer
In 2020 Florida Power and Light refused to allow me to turn my system on because it was “too large for my average usage”. It took a complainant to the state to get them motivated.
There are two issues that must be addressed IMHO:
1. if the panel connects to the home outlet with a male plug, this plug has exposed AC (110V or 230V) voltage. This is extremely dangerous. A toaster has a male plug but does not provide any power when disconnected. A solar panel provides current to the home lines, so the male plug is ac powered. A solution must be implemented to avoid potential electro shock.
2. In case of utility grid outage, these outlet connected panels must stop feeding electricity to the home lines (and therefore to the grid) immediately, otherwise utility workers are at risk. They assume the grid is shut down while some panel is energizing it.
Both issues are easily manageable. Just ensure it is done.
Lol and here’s my province doing awesome again. Rebates for solar panels, and they’ll buy excess energy at I think ¢50ish/kW.
I’ve heard solar panels regularly “explode”. Has that been fixed yet?
Anybody who has bought a house from a home electrician will be at risk. You know, the guys who barely know what they’re doing, but do it cheap …
Genuine capitalism
We can’t provide your energy needs without rolling blackouts because we’re letting data centers Hoover up all the energy but how dare you make your own energy for free!!!!
Given that my power company is a regulated monopoly, I’m guessing the rate setting body let them raise fixed fees and transmission fees to make themselves whole.
In the end, the power company will be ok, the electricity mix will be greener, and low income people will end up worse off financially bc they can’t afford the panels.
I’m sitting here at my MIL’s house because my wife and I have been without power for well over 24 hours.
utilities trying to delay solar panels is like blockbuster trying to delay streaming. you can slow it down but you can’t stop people from wanting cheaper energy
I started seeing these articles everywhere recently, feels like astroturfing. Hard to say because it looks like a useful technology and a bs response by utilities.
Can’t monopolize the sun so they have to keep people from harnessing it
In the future, everything will be powered by renewable energy.
You cannot pitch a future where we still burn diminishing fossil fuels, you’d look like an idiot.
Renewable energy is inevitable, so get on board or get out of the way.
Aren’t solar panels pretty easy to begin with?
Oh no, it would be a real shame if someone recommended some decent brands so I can start to fill my back yard. Won’t someone think of the bottom line of the poor CEOs!
Against the constitution
Has any of the brand passed UL certs?? I am interested to buy one. Fight the power!!
I live in the southwest, and why we don’t have awnings with solar panels mandatory on every new build is beyond me. Shade plus power. Instead shade is not deemed necessary and utilities are ridiculous. There’s a small museum that has a covered parking lot full of solar panels, which is absolutely brilliant. Why is that not everywhere?! It is only getting hotter and more expensive down here, and all progress is blocked.
Big Corps are buying patents to stop development of meaningful things that could cut their revenue.
When I learned that as a child my sense for justice conpletely vanished. I basically was set neutral and went like “I’ll just have to endure my time on this planet.”
In a strange twist of events, I was just thinking yesterday, “what if the utility companies are the ones stagnating the further development of solar?” Huh, timing was about on point with that random thought.
Ah fuck. I thought there was some kind of breakthrough. But those things are pretty standard where I live.
You can just put energy back into the grid from an outlet? Huh
I’ve been hearing about solar panels, wind turbines and ocean energy my entire life. They’re always almost ready or just around the corner. Meanwhile, fossil fuels still run the world. At this pace, renewables won’t fully replace them within my lifetime. Not unless we reach a crisis point first.
It often feels like progress only accelerates when the consequences become impossible to ignore, and even that lately has become questionable.