This verdict is the death of the right to protest in America. The DOJ didn’t just convict the person who pulled the trigger (Benjamin Song); they convicted seven other people for ‘material support’ because they brought first aid kits, wore black bloc, and used encrypted apps. By framing standard protest safety gear as ‘terrorist equipment,’ the Trump admin has effectively criminalized the act of showing up to a protest where someone *might* commit a crime. This is a 50-year prison sentence for being in the wrong place with a tourniquet. The First Amendment doesn’t exist if ‘association’ is enough to get you a domestic terror charge.
Ok-Tower-9137 on
Pam Bondi’s statement after the verdict was the real warning shot. She said this is ‘only the beginning’ of ‘systematically dismantling’ Antifa. The sub is correctly pointing out that the DOJ is using the Texas case as a proof-of-concept for NSPM-7 (the domestic terror memo). They didn’t need a formal ‘Antifa’ organization to exist; they just needed a jury to believe that wearing black and liking ‘incendiary zines’ constitutes a terror cell. This is the roadmap for how they’ll target any group—from climate activists to labor unions—that uses ‘operational security.’
Bittererr on
Reminder of what being a terrorist means under NSPM-7:
this just incentivizes the administration to plant people at protests who will commit vandalism so they can arrest everybody else.
Impressive_Bat_5763 on
They convicted people for bringing first aid kits and using encrypted apps. You don’t need to build a terrorist organization anymore, you just need to show up prepared.
Outrageous-Morning91 on
There aren’t nearly enough police or military to arrest hundreds of thousands of protesters. And if they tried there would be twice as many the next day.
Sjerzgirl54 on
How do they not understand that antifa is NOT an organization to be dismantled. It’s a belief system!
DoctaGazoo on
Remind me again how many white supremacy groups are listed as domestic terrorists. Is the number really zero?
johnny_johnny_johnny on
Wearing black constitutes terrorism? Doesn’t that describe all of the ICE agents?
Xznograthos on
Maga qualifies as a domestic terrorist group based on J6, and what trump’s admin has done to American citizens via ICE detiainments and murders. Let’s just throw all republicans in that camp too, while we’re at it. There’s not a significant distinction.
Nords1981 on
Going to be interesting when MAGA is given the same terrorists labeling. Groups like The Heritage Foundation are terrorists under the same principle. I expect Nuremberg 2.0 will open the flood gates to charging these actual criminals.
NewMidwest on
The first amendment is an American thing. If people wanted it, they shouldn’t have put Republicans in charge.
FrostySumo on
There is enough in this particular case that I can see how they manage to get a initial conviction. Don’t think it’ll hold up to multiple appeals. It’s not a good thing but one of these was bound to get through eventually. I’m guessing they probably chose the best of venue that the federal government could find.
k6plays on
So, stop calling it Antifa and call it Anti-Fascism. Let them run their cases against Anti-Fascism and see how popular that is.
They’ve successfully turned “Antifa” into a boogy man for their low IQ base
DamiensDelight on
So they’re going to start going after the counter protest terrorists who are harassing school kids, attacking people,and otherwise trying to start shit too right? Right?
dBlock845 on
Texas wouldn’t even indict a father who murdered his daughter while under the influence. Texas is so fucked and backwards.
myringisbling on
And that is how you get real underground left wing terror groups instead of “antifa”.
alleyoopoop on
According to the article, most of the people convicted took no part in the shooting, but were considered accomplices because they wore black:
>“Providing your body as camouflage for others to do the enumerated acts is providing support,” Assistant US Attorney Shawn Smith said during closing arguments, as The Intercept reported on Thursday. “It’s impossible to tell who is doing what. That’s the point.”
So protestors dressing in black is sinister, but ICE officers wearing masks and hiding their badges is OK.
Xeansen on
At this point, the media must be responsible and stop using the casual shortening “antifa” as buzzword – if they said “anti-fascist” in every headline instead, people would feel much differently
Melodic-Lingonberry7 on
All the jury members were probably MAGA
CarlsonB75 on
This is the real reason they’ve been building concentration camps. Not for immigrants, but for anyone who opposes the regime. For all the crying on the right about how Iran treats it’s protesters, they’re totally on board for Trump doing the same here to their “enemies”
CyberFireball25 on
This bullshit better get successfully appealed
deathtoicefucknazis on
Hi DOJ, it’s me, Mr. Antifa. Woogie boogie, come and get me!
Jav0415 on
The fact that it stands for anti-facist is just mind blowing to me that the people who really fought that would be labeled terrorists now, where fuck did we go so wrong?
newmoonchaperone on
“A federal jury”
😔
This Department of Justice is wholly corrupt and these juries are *illegitimate*.
*nullify*
UnicornsFartGlittery on
As a Canadian, someone watching from the outside, is severely disappointed in the direction America is headed. It’s frustrating and sad to watch an entire country be abused and mistreated by this administration, and those supporting their agenda. It’s remarkable to me how many people are supporting and backing this administration. Americans are being gaslighted and abused and torn apart for one man’s delight. The damage is irreparable and those pushing the agenda today, don’t realize the horror they are actually putting themselves and their family’s through today. He is not worth all this. The world is imploding because Trump and his human centipeders don’t understand reality and the true damage they are currently inflicting on everyone.
It’s now at the point of no return. Trump isn’t, IS NOT worth all this. This is the most umamerican administration ever. The constitution is moot at this point. You can’t cherry pick the constitution to your satisfaction. You either stand by it or you don’t. And from what I see, the majority of magas or republicans have zero respect for the constitution.
No-Fennel-8333 on
There is no Antifa. That’s the crazy thing. The right wing media made it up. There is literally no organization called Antifa. It does not exist.
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This verdict is the death of the right to protest in America. The DOJ didn’t just convict the person who pulled the trigger (Benjamin Song); they convicted seven other people for ‘material support’ because they brought first aid kits, wore black bloc, and used encrypted apps. By framing standard protest safety gear as ‘terrorist equipment,’ the Trump admin has effectively criminalized the act of showing up to a protest where someone *might* commit a crime. This is a 50-year prison sentence for being in the wrong place with a tourniquet. The First Amendment doesn’t exist if ‘association’ is enough to get you a domestic terror charge.
Pam Bondi’s statement after the verdict was the real warning shot. She said this is ‘only the beginning’ of ‘systematically dismantling’ Antifa. The sub is correctly pointing out that the DOJ is using the Texas case as a proof-of-concept for NSPM-7 (the domestic terror memo). They didn’t need a formal ‘Antifa’ organization to exist; they just needed a jury to believe that wearing black and liking ‘incendiary zines’ constitutes a terror cell. This is the roadmap for how they’ll target any group—from climate activists to labor unions—that uses ‘operational security.’
Reminder of what being a terrorist means under NSPM-7:
>[Common threads animating this violent conduct include anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity; support for the overthrow of the United States Government; extremism on migration, race, and gender; and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality.](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/countering-domestic-terrorism-and-organized-political-violence/)
this just incentivizes the administration to plant people at protests who will commit vandalism so they can arrest everybody else.
They convicted people for bringing first aid kits and using encrypted apps. You don’t need to build a terrorist organization anymore, you just need to show up prepared.
There aren’t nearly enough police or military to arrest hundreds of thousands of protesters. And if they tried there would be twice as many the next day.
How do they not understand that antifa is NOT an organization to be dismantled. It’s a belief system!
Remind me again how many white supremacy groups are listed as domestic terrorists. Is the number really zero?
Wearing black constitutes terrorism? Doesn’t that describe all of the ICE agents?
Maga qualifies as a domestic terrorist group based on J6, and what trump’s admin has done to American citizens via ICE detiainments and murders. Let’s just throw all republicans in that camp too, while we’re at it. There’s not a significant distinction.
Going to be interesting when MAGA is given the same terrorists labeling. Groups like The Heritage Foundation are terrorists under the same principle. I expect Nuremberg 2.0 will open the flood gates to charging these actual criminals.
The first amendment is an American thing. If people wanted it, they shouldn’t have put Republicans in charge.
There is enough in this particular case that I can see how they manage to get a initial conviction. Don’t think it’ll hold up to multiple appeals. It’s not a good thing but one of these was bound to get through eventually. I’m guessing they probably chose the best of venue that the federal government could find.
So, stop calling it Antifa and call it Anti-Fascism. Let them run their cases against Anti-Fascism and see how popular that is.
They’ve successfully turned “Antifa” into a boogy man for their low IQ base
So they’re going to start going after the counter protest terrorists who are harassing school kids, attacking people,and otherwise trying to start shit too right? Right?
Texas wouldn’t even indict a father who murdered his daughter while under the influence. Texas is so fucked and backwards.
And that is how you get real underground left wing terror groups instead of “antifa”.
According to the article, most of the people convicted took no part in the shooting, but were considered accomplices because they wore black:
>“Providing your body as camouflage for others to do the enumerated acts is providing support,” Assistant US Attorney Shawn Smith said during closing arguments, as The Intercept reported on Thursday. “It’s impossible to tell who is doing what. That’s the point.”
So protestors dressing in black is sinister, but ICE officers wearing masks and hiding their badges is OK.
At this point, the media must be responsible and stop using the casual shortening “antifa” as buzzword – if they said “anti-fascist” in every headline instead, people would feel much differently
All the jury members were probably MAGA
This is the real reason they’ve been building concentration camps. Not for immigrants, but for anyone who opposes the regime. For all the crying on the right about how Iran treats it’s protesters, they’re totally on board for Trump doing the same here to their “enemies”
This bullshit better get successfully appealed
Hi DOJ, it’s me, Mr. Antifa. Woogie boogie, come and get me!
The fact that it stands for anti-facist is just mind blowing to me that the people who really fought that would be labeled terrorists now, where fuck did we go so wrong?
“A federal jury”
😔
This Department of Justice is wholly corrupt and these juries are *illegitimate*.
*nullify*
As a Canadian, someone watching from the outside, is severely disappointed in the direction America is headed. It’s frustrating and sad to watch an entire country be abused and mistreated by this administration, and those supporting their agenda. It’s remarkable to me how many people are supporting and backing this administration. Americans are being gaslighted and abused and torn apart for one man’s delight. The damage is irreparable and those pushing the agenda today, don’t realize the horror they are actually putting themselves and their family’s through today. He is not worth all this. The world is imploding because Trump and his human centipeders don’t understand reality and the true damage they are currently inflicting on everyone.
It’s now at the point of no return. Trump isn’t, IS NOT worth all this. This is the most umamerican administration ever. The constitution is moot at this point. You can’t cherry pick the constitution to your satisfaction. You either stand by it or you don’t. And from what I see, the majority of magas or republicans have zero respect for the constitution.
There is no Antifa. That’s the crazy thing. The right wing media made it up. There is literally no organization called Antifa. It does not exist.