Good. It’s like the 90s again except these kids have massive student loans too.
Gentle_Snail on
Fuck its nice to have a proactive government for a change, like a government who see a problem and then actually try to fix it.
CupCakesNFlatWhite on
Just offer discounts on student loans for time served in the military or public services.
We could do with some bright sparks in the military, they might even enjoy it.
Deervember on
I’m not sure how they’ll do that when every company wants to replace humans with Ai and robots.
Better off taxing the rich. Or taxing Ai /robots.
Due-String-1602 on
Stopping importing the problem would be a good start.
Due-Somewhere-1790 on
A subsidy for businesses to employ a young person on Universal Credit is a great idea. I was able to start my current job on a similar scheme during the COVID pandemic.
dnemonicterrier on
Great they need to make it so younger people don’t get ghosted when applying for jobs and root out all fake job vacancies that are on the Jobcentre Website.
Hot_Photograph_5928 on
This is a classic UK gov move. They impose payroll taxes, making it more expensive to hire people. They then use those increased tax to fund intitatiaves to ‘solve’ the problem they created. But the initives doesn’t work, beause all they are doing is creating weird incentives.
It’s the same everywhere you look. The gov things that taking money from the economy and then using it on some initiative to stimulate the economy is the way forward. They do it over and over and over, without realising that if they simply did nothign, it would have a far better effect.
Another example: many UK cities are imposting a ‘touritst tax’ of something like £1 per night. This then reduces tourism rates. They then use tax revenues to fund some initiatives to ‘stimulte tourism’.
To the state, everything looks like it just needs more state involvement.
Wart_Time_L32 on
What about me in my 30s, I’m currently looking and getting ignored/ghosted or that’s how it feels
chronicnerv on
I’m concerned that this programme will mainly subsidise low paid, high turnover jobs that businesses already need to refill. If that happens, the policy risks becoming little more than a public subsidy for roles that would have existed anyway.
If £1 billion of public money is being spent, it should be targeted toward occupations the country genuinely needs more of, for example engineering, technical roles, and skilled trades. Funding should prioritise structured training that produce measurable increases in these critical skills.
Without clear targeting, there is also a risk that large outsourced sectors with high staff turnover, such as private care providers, could disproportionately benefit from wage subsidies. In those cases the funding may boost company margins or share prices rather than build long term skills in the workforce.
What I would like to see is much stronger transparency and accountability around the programme. Specifically:
• A list of the occupations and sectors the funding is intended to support
• The number of trainees or apprenticeships created in each role
• Evidence of new jobs created, not simply existing vacancies subsidised
• Public reporting showing how many participants remain employed after the programme ends
If £1 billion is being invested, the public should be able to see exactly which skills were developed, which roles were filled, and how many long term jobs were actually created as a result.
Smart-Emu5459 on
What if, and maybe I’m just talking crazy here, but what if they reduced payroll taxes to make it less expensive to hire new staff?
Buttermyparsnips on
Took away all the incentives for businesses to hire young people then spend 1bn of tax player money solving the problem. Actual cretins running the government
AnHerstorian on
I think it would be a much better long term investment to have these people trained in a certain trade than to dick them with what will likely be low-paying unskilled jobs which are very likely to be automated in the not too distant future anyway. It’s a perfect opportunity to have a large segment of the workforce already prepared for the way AI will revolutionise industries. Have them fill in the gaps or even trained to support AI infrastructure. But of course that would take a lot of time and effort to do. Much easier to send them to Lidl, I guess.
DazzlingDog4494 on
Can we close up all the tax loopholes, Starbucks etc?
Cool-Brief4858 on
The Numbers just don’t work out here.
Offering £3,000 to support a reported 60,000 Jobs works out at £180 million.
With a scheme valued at £1 Billion, that’s over 80% of that funding being spent on administration and other forms of needless paperwork.
I’ve worked in research and other government funded roles for the vast majority of my career, the storys the same everytime.
1. Government promising an insane amount of money to solve a problem.
2. They hire a team of highly paid consultants to figure out where the money goes, who in turn take a large chunk of the money.
3. The consultants divy the money up to a number of small organisations, often times creating new organisations purely to recieve the funding.
4. These smaller organisations spend another large portion of the money on there own administration.
5. Repeat this trickle down effect of smaller and smaller businesses X times, until eventually someone is actually hired for a role.
By this point, the vast majority of funds intended to help workers as actually been spend lining the pockets of corporate exexcutives, leaving a fraction of it ‘correctly spent’
BriefCommunication26 on
Rediculous. NEW THINKING NEEDED. The world has changed, ai is here. Computers/tech in general has changed this forever decades agi and its slowly coming to a head. The greater public and politicians need to realise this.
There arent enough jobs for our whole population and thats ok, how do we move through this?
Mad_Mark90 on
This is gonna be one of those “we gave billions to a consulting company who told us to give them more money” kinda plans isn’t it.
CatchRevolutionary65 on
Jesus Christ, what is wrong with this government? Instead of giving bungs to businesses every six months (who’ll then get rid of these apprentices) just build a state developer and train up and keep these people employed whilst building new homes
Longest_boat on
Again, stop mass offshoring. Bring thousand of jobs back to the UK.
Plus-Literature-7221 on
> The initiative includes a new Youth Jobs Grant, offering businesses £3,000 for each 18-24 year old hired who has been unemployed for six months or more,
This is going to be abused.
I guess importing 4-5 millionn people since 2020 wasnt a brilliant idea after all.
RYPIIE2006 on
good, literally turned 20 two days ago and still no job applications have succeeded
Raychao on
Sam Altman just said human beings are all just useless calorie burners. It takes 20 years to grow a human to not be worthless, Anthropic just said that 80% of jobs are going to be done by AI within around 18 months.
Given all that, what would be the point? Or are we saying that Sam Altman and Anthropic are telling porkies?
Ok-Examination-2869 on
literally do anything but any reasonable centrist neolib policy that actually improves the country. instead get the incompetent government in the west to plan things. it’s just so pathetic
Diastrous_Lie on
1 billion will be paid back by whome when these jobs will probably pay little or no income tax?
A lot of these people are unemployable and graduated with no grade above a fail
They should have asked Trump to pay UK the sum of £2billion and let him take these 200,000 people to help out with his war effort
Win win situation
JackStrawWitchita on
There are no jobs for these people to take, incentives or not. Another failed scheme.
Fit_Importance_5738 on
By making a more welcoming economy right? Right?
They will be putting plasters over knife wounds as usual.
ExtensionPort on
Maybe if we started by actually having companies employ our own instead of opting for international labour.
SnooFloofs1868 on
1b is not enough for the meetings and talks that will happen.
After they have decided on a plan it will be after 15 years and 84b spent to conclude than ramming the economy into the ground and flooding in millions more people who do not work was not the economic miracle they had deluded themselves into.
cryptonuggets1 on
Can’t we spend the 1billion employing all the people so they get experience rather than paying a load of high earning consultants what their options are?
Outside-Locksmith346 on
Let s fuck the job market then let s spend a fortune trying to bend it.
Cant wait for the IMF to arrive.
SnooMacarons4225 on
I thought they were broke and had to put up taxes, how do they keep pulling these billions out of their arses when someone finds a new pet project?
SeriesDowntown5947 on
Loads of youngsters with no jobs and driting into crime. Ai wont help in the short to mediums term
Reika_Shichijou on
Sounds good as a headline, but the reality is.. nothing.
”supporting an estimated 60,000 individuals.”
2.7m working age unemployed.
Simsung01 on
Oh, so take from the working and give to the lazy?
How refreshing
Stamperdoodle1 on
Here’s my idea. That whole trade deal with India from 2025 where Indians don’t need to pay towards payee – get rid of that and any existing incentive to bring cheap workers from overseas.
Secondly, tax the everloving shit out of every company with an outsource workforce. Have it based on salary so if the company is paying them UK minimum wage, they have to pay the difference in tax (according to national average for that role)
The young are struggling because all companies are only hiring people in India.
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Good. It’s like the 90s again except these kids have massive student loans too.
Fuck its nice to have a proactive government for a change, like a government who see a problem and then actually try to fix it.
Just offer discounts on student loans for time served in the military or public services.
We could do with some bright sparks in the military, they might even enjoy it.
I’m not sure how they’ll do that when every company wants to replace humans with Ai and robots.
Better off taxing the rich. Or taxing Ai /robots.
Stopping importing the problem would be a good start.
A subsidy for businesses to employ a young person on Universal Credit is a great idea. I was able to start my current job on a similar scheme during the COVID pandemic.
Great they need to make it so younger people don’t get ghosted when applying for jobs and root out all fake job vacancies that are on the Jobcentre Website.
This is a classic UK gov move. They impose payroll taxes, making it more expensive to hire people. They then use those increased tax to fund intitatiaves to ‘solve’ the problem they created. But the initives doesn’t work, beause all they are doing is creating weird incentives.
It’s the same everywhere you look. The gov things that taking money from the economy and then using it on some initiative to stimulate the economy is the way forward. They do it over and over and over, without realising that if they simply did nothign, it would have a far better effect.
Another example: many UK cities are imposting a ‘touritst tax’ of something like £1 per night. This then reduces tourism rates. They then use tax revenues to fund some initiatives to ‘stimulte tourism’.
To the state, everything looks like it just needs more state involvement.
What about me in my 30s, I’m currently looking and getting ignored/ghosted or that’s how it feels
I’m concerned that this programme will mainly subsidise low paid, high turnover jobs that businesses already need to refill. If that happens, the policy risks becoming little more than a public subsidy for roles that would have existed anyway.
If £1 billion of public money is being spent, it should be targeted toward occupations the country genuinely needs more of, for example engineering, technical roles, and skilled trades. Funding should prioritise structured training that produce measurable increases in these critical skills.
Without clear targeting, there is also a risk that large outsourced sectors with high staff turnover, such as private care providers, could disproportionately benefit from wage subsidies. In those cases the funding may boost company margins or share prices rather than build long term skills in the workforce.
What I would like to see is much stronger transparency and accountability around the programme. Specifically:
• A list of the occupations and sectors the funding is intended to support
• The number of trainees or apprenticeships created in each role
• Evidence of new jobs created, not simply existing vacancies subsidised
• Public reporting showing how many participants remain employed after the programme ends
If £1 billion is being invested, the public should be able to see exactly which skills were developed, which roles were filled, and how many long term jobs were actually created as a result.
What if, and maybe I’m just talking crazy here, but what if they reduced payroll taxes to make it less expensive to hire new staff?
Took away all the incentives for businesses to hire young people then spend 1bn of tax player money solving the problem. Actual cretins running the government
I think it would be a much better long term investment to have these people trained in a certain trade than to dick them with what will likely be low-paying unskilled jobs which are very likely to be automated in the not too distant future anyway. It’s a perfect opportunity to have a large segment of the workforce already prepared for the way AI will revolutionise industries. Have them fill in the gaps or even trained to support AI infrastructure. But of course that would take a lot of time and effort to do. Much easier to send them to Lidl, I guess.
Can we close up all the tax loopholes, Starbucks etc?
The Numbers just don’t work out here.
Offering £3,000 to support a reported 60,000 Jobs works out at £180 million.
With a scheme valued at £1 Billion, that’s over 80% of that funding being spent on administration and other forms of needless paperwork.
I’ve worked in research and other government funded roles for the vast majority of my career, the storys the same everytime.
1. Government promising an insane amount of money to solve a problem.
2. They hire a team of highly paid consultants to figure out where the money goes, who in turn take a large chunk of the money.
3. The consultants divy the money up to a number of small organisations, often times creating new organisations purely to recieve the funding.
4. These smaller organisations spend another large portion of the money on there own administration.
5. Repeat this trickle down effect of smaller and smaller businesses X times, until eventually someone is actually hired for a role.
By this point, the vast majority of funds intended to help workers as actually been spend lining the pockets of corporate exexcutives, leaving a fraction of it ‘correctly spent’
Rediculous. NEW THINKING NEEDED. The world has changed, ai is here. Computers/tech in general has changed this forever decades agi and its slowly coming to a head. The greater public and politicians need to realise this.
There arent enough jobs for our whole population and thats ok, how do we move through this?
This is gonna be one of those “we gave billions to a consulting company who told us to give them more money” kinda plans isn’t it.
Jesus Christ, what is wrong with this government? Instead of giving bungs to businesses every six months (who’ll then get rid of these apprentices) just build a state developer and train up and keep these people employed whilst building new homes
Again, stop mass offshoring. Bring thousand of jobs back to the UK.
> The initiative includes a new Youth Jobs Grant, offering businesses £3,000 for each 18-24 year old hired who has been unemployed for six months or more,
This is going to be abused.
I guess importing 4-5 millionn people since 2020 wasnt a brilliant idea after all.
good, literally turned 20 two days ago and still no job applications have succeeded
Sam Altman just said human beings are all just useless calorie burners. It takes 20 years to grow a human to not be worthless, Anthropic just said that 80% of jobs are going to be done by AI within around 18 months.
Given all that, what would be the point? Or are we saying that Sam Altman and Anthropic are telling porkies?
literally do anything but any reasonable centrist neolib policy that actually improves the country. instead get the incompetent government in the west to plan things. it’s just so pathetic
1 billion will be paid back by whome when these jobs will probably pay little or no income tax?
A lot of these people are unemployable and graduated with no grade above a fail
They should have asked Trump to pay UK the sum of £2billion and let him take these 200,000 people to help out with his war effort
Win win situation
There are no jobs for these people to take, incentives or not. Another failed scheme.
By making a more welcoming economy right? Right?
They will be putting plasters over knife wounds as usual.
Maybe if we started by actually having companies employ our own instead of opting for international labour.
1b is not enough for the meetings and talks that will happen.
After they have decided on a plan it will be after 15 years and 84b spent to conclude than ramming the economy into the ground and flooding in millions more people who do not work was not the economic miracle they had deluded themselves into.
Can’t we spend the 1billion employing all the people so they get experience rather than paying a load of high earning consultants what their options are?
Let s fuck the job market then let s spend a fortune trying to bend it.
Cant wait for the IMF to arrive.
I thought they were broke and had to put up taxes, how do they keep pulling these billions out of their arses when someone finds a new pet project?
Loads of youngsters with no jobs and driting into crime. Ai wont help in the short to mediums term
Sounds good as a headline, but the reality is.. nothing.
”supporting an estimated 60,000 individuals.”
2.7m working age unemployed.
Oh, so take from the working and give to the lazy?
How refreshing
Here’s my idea. That whole trade deal with India from 2025 where Indians don’t need to pay towards payee – get rid of that and any existing incentive to bring cheap workers from overseas.
Secondly, tax the everloving shit out of every company with an outsource workforce. Have it based on salary so if the company is paying them UK minimum wage, they have to pay the difference in tax (according to national average for that role)
The young are struggling because all companies are only hiring people in India.