Arizona Becomes First State to Criminally Charge Kalshi: The “prediction market” platform is finally facing a serious legal challenge.

https://newrepublic.com/post/207878/arizona-first-state-criminally-charge-kalshi

33 Comments

  1. AbeFromanEast on

    Prediction Markets (really, online gambling on inside information) is already corrupting sports, journalists and politicians. It is a societal choice to platform a gambling market that incentivizes widespread bribery.

  2. I’ve literally wondered every time I see a Kalshi ad how it could be legal. Just because they use the word “trade” instead of “bet” doesn’t mean it’s not just gambling. It is 100% indistinguishable from gambling.

  3. This was always going to happen. You cannot dress up gambling as a prediction market forever and expect every state to just smile and allow it.

    Arizona finally pushed back hard.

  4. rajatsingh24k on

    So this should be immune from a presidential pardon I presume. If not then how much do you think Kalshi perps pay for one?

  5. Good. It’s fucking weird that you can bet on political actions. Seem ripe for conflicts of interest

  6. Wonder if there’s a market on Kalshi on whether it’s going to be convicted or not. Considering Trump Jr is on their board, specifically to prevent a conviction one assumes, this will get interesting.

  7. Can I bet on this resulting in nothing more than a fine they’ll recoup after one quarter?

    This isn’t implying some bullishness towards them but the strangle hold public companies have on those in charge.

  8. I’m probably not the only one who got a screenshot of a Kalshi ad directly above this post.

  9. Luna__Moonkitty on

    It’s essentially the plot of the movie Rat Race, with the oligarchs making foolish bets on everything. But now they’re doing it with the stock market and war instead of creating wacky cross country races with Jon Lovitz and Mr Bean.

  10. phtevenbagbifico on

    Kris Mayes, the Arizona AG, won by 200 votes in 2022.

    *MAKE SURE SHE IS RE ELECTED.*

  11. thefanciestcat on

    I expected Nevada and New Jersey first for more cynical reasons, but I’m glad to see it happening anywhere.

    >“Kalshi may brand itself as a ‘prediction market,’ but what it’s actually doing is running an illegal gambling operation and taking bets on Arizona elections, both of which violate Arizona law,”

    Does anyone actually disagree? It seems very straightforward.

  12. Good fuck Kalshi shit is creepy as fuck. It’s somehow makes online sports betting seem tame by comparison.

  13. Can’t wait for this bs to be banned. Every single media content I consume is inundated by their ads.

  14. obliquelyobtuse on

    Except the Criminal-in-Chief’s son is on the Kalshi board.

    And the Trump Graft Administration is all in on Crypto and “prediction markets” so good luck.

  15. Hell yes. Prosecute and get damages for predatory practices. I <3 Kris quite often these days. 

  16. SnoopsBadunkadunk on

    Next time that question comes up on askreddit to name something that we don’t think about now that will be seen as seriously harmful in the future, my answer is gambling, for sure. Not just prediction markets. This genie needs to go back in the bottle at some point.

  17. If Kalshi conducts futures traded in addition to prediction trades, and if the two are not financially distinguishable, then Arizona has no case. But if Kalshi doesn’t also do futures, or if futures trading differs in any way, the Arizona should win.

  18. Internet_Rando_667 on

    30 years too late to prevent problems, of course.

    The mentality of predictions influencing the market is precisely what made market volatility an unreliable metric… decades back.