This doesn’t look like less drug use, just different drug use. When one drops and others rise at the same time, it says more about shifting preferences than actual progress.
AmyWilliamse on
Feels less like a drop and more like people just switching preferences
Lauwietauwie on
Because everyone’s on SSRI’s
BowiesFixedPupil on
This feels like one of the biggest downgrades in history.
Basically the kids have swapped love, empathy and shared experiences for aggression, individualism and sedation.
Low_Technician7346 on
More crackheads in the streets to come…
nadmaximus on
Maybe they are just peeing somewhere else.
Haunting_Switch3463 on
Makes sense if you think about it. Nobody goes out anymore and night clubs are going out of business. MDMA isnt really a fun drug to take when you’re sitting at home.
LolaBaraba on
So instead of the beautiful love feeling, you get the knocked out zombie feeling. Or someone on coke talking your ear off with nonsense. Stupid choice. If you want to chillax, smoke some weed, instead of sedatives and opiates.
Soap_Mctavish101 on
Awwwww
BigWingedDuck on
So, MDMA quality is rising and coke&ketamine is shit? Good news!
Ballistic-Bob on
That’s a sad headline….
dannyk_07 on
They need to mass legalize weed in EU, man.
I know, you know and they know a lot of people smoke it and it is helluva better than any of the amphetamines or whatever names they got.
Healthier than freaking alcohol and cigs for sure.
Korece on
Spicy water
HalLundy on
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saljskanetilldanmark on
Elon musk on visit?
valokeho on
love is out. angst and disassociating are in
MinaZata on
Should be the other way around
Yesiamaduck on
Don’t partake anymore but I always found mdma really volatile in terms of supply chains so eventually I stopped bothering because I would often be sold shite that was either barely mdma or not mdma at all. Coke/Ket and the mephedrone became the alternatives people gravitated toward due ti reliable availability and consistent strength.
So this news doesn’t surprise me at all
RijnKantje on
Horrible news for the Dutch economy.
igotaright on
Hoe about 3mmc (which likely really is 3cmc)? Do they even test on this? I notice it’s very popular with kids. It’s also cheap at €30 and feels like a mixture of cocaine and mdma
Every-Actuator-6996 on
Feels less like “people are getting better/worse” and more like habits just shifting.
MDMA dropping probably says something about nightlife or supply, while cocaine and ketamine rising fits with stress, money, and people looking for different kinds of escape.
The data shows *what* is changing, but not really *why,* and that part is usually more about life than drugs.
PM_Me_Icosahedrons on
>The highest loads of MDMA were found in cities located in Belgium, Spain and the Netherlands, while the highest levels of ketamine in wastewaters were monitored in Belgium, Germany and the Netherlands. […]
>Wastewater data show that cocaine use remains higher in western and southern Europe, such as in Belgium, the Netherlands and Spain.
Dutch and Belgian people love their drugs.
gkn_112 on
less love, more knife fights
NeverCaredAnyways on
This may just be what i see in my direct surrounding (berlin) but use of mdma seems to be replaced with 4mmc use.
Methamphetamine1893 on
Not a big fan of the ketamine situation. Cocaine is at least natural and plant derived.
Ok_Photo_865 on
John jr hanging out over there these days I suppose 🤷♂️
hasteiswaste on
Why the cocaine! MDMA and ketamine is the best combo!
turb0_encapsulator on
I thought you guys were trying to become less like the US.
dumnezilla on
So, you’re saying I can get high drinking sewer water?
The_Blahblahblah on
Recession indicator
Jayblack23 on
People acting like this is terrible. In the case of cocaine, yes probably. But ketamine is much safer than alcohol, no neurotoxcicity, no lethal dose, can have very large benefits for neuroinflammation, depression and neuroplasticity. That’s not to say it doesnt have big risks, as any hard drugs & alcohol does, and addiction is nasty, but it doesnt have to be as bad as people make it out to be, its better than alcohol at the very least, and far safer than mdma per use. But I do agree mdma has its place too and is much more meaningful than ket or cocaine or alcohol etc.
BJonker1 on
Clearly I have to up my game here.
CALCIUM_CANNONS on
Can’t get high in this economy.
greatersnek on
Happy to help the numbers if I could get my self some but it’s not exactly publicly available
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First world problems.
This doesn’t look like less drug use, just different drug use. When one drops and others rise at the same time, it says more about shifting preferences than actual progress.
Feels less like a drop and more like people just switching preferences
Because everyone’s on SSRI’s
This feels like one of the biggest downgrades in history.
Basically the kids have swapped love, empathy and shared experiences for aggression, individualism and sedation.
More crackheads in the streets to come…
Maybe they are just peeing somewhere else.
Makes sense if you think about it. Nobody goes out anymore and night clubs are going out of business. MDMA isnt really a fun drug to take when you’re sitting at home.
So instead of the beautiful love feeling, you get the knocked out zombie feeling. Or someone on coke talking your ear off with nonsense. Stupid choice. If you want to chillax, smoke some weed, instead of sedatives and opiates.
Awwwww
So, MDMA quality is rising and coke&ketamine is shit? Good news!
That’s a sad headline….
They need to mass legalize weed in EU, man.
I know, you know and they know a lot of people smoke it and it is helluva better than any of the amphetamines or whatever names they got.
Healthier than freaking alcohol and cigs for sure.
Spicy water
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Elon musk on visit?
love is out. angst and disassociating are in
Should be the other way around
Don’t partake anymore but I always found mdma really volatile in terms of supply chains so eventually I stopped bothering because I would often be sold shite that was either barely mdma or not mdma at all. Coke/Ket and the mephedrone became the alternatives people gravitated toward due ti reliable availability and consistent strength.
So this news doesn’t surprise me at all
Horrible news for the Dutch economy.
Hoe about 3mmc (which likely really is 3cmc)? Do they even test on this? I notice it’s very popular with kids. It’s also cheap at €30 and feels like a mixture of cocaine and mdma
Feels less like “people are getting better/worse” and more like habits just shifting.
MDMA dropping probably says something about nightlife or supply, while cocaine and ketamine rising fits with stress, money, and people looking for different kinds of escape.
The data shows *what* is changing, but not really *why,* and that part is usually more about life than drugs.
>The highest loads of MDMA were found in cities located in Belgium, Spain and the Netherlands, while the highest levels of ketamine in wastewaters were monitored in Belgium, Germany and the Netherlands. […]
>Wastewater data show that cocaine use remains higher in western and southern Europe, such as in Belgium, the Netherlands and Spain.
Dutch and Belgian people love their drugs.
less love, more knife fights
This may just be what i see in my direct surrounding (berlin) but use of mdma seems to be replaced with 4mmc use.
Not a big fan of the ketamine situation. Cocaine is at least natural and plant derived.
John jr hanging out over there these days I suppose 🤷♂️
Why the cocaine! MDMA and ketamine is the best combo!
I thought you guys were trying to become less like the US.
So, you’re saying I can get high drinking sewer water?
Recession indicator
People acting like this is terrible. In the case of cocaine, yes probably. But ketamine is much safer than alcohol, no neurotoxcicity, no lethal dose, can have very large benefits for neuroinflammation, depression and neuroplasticity. That’s not to say it doesnt have big risks, as any hard drugs & alcohol does, and addiction is nasty, but it doesnt have to be as bad as people make it out to be, its better than alcohol at the very least, and far safer than mdma per use. But I do agree mdma has its place too and is much more meaningful than ket or cocaine or alcohol etc.
Clearly I have to up my game here.
Can’t get high in this economy.
Happy to help the numbers if I could get my self some but it’s not exactly publicly available