>She also voiced her confusion about the how the outbreak spread.
>”My point to the government has been, there’s been a lot of talk about how hard it is to transmit, but then there’s also, at the same time, saying the conversation is that nobody needs to panic and we don’t all need the vaccine, but at the same time, the things don’t quite add up.
>”Actually, it was transmitted a lot more easily, by the looks of it, than they’re suggesting, so something isn’t making sense somewhere.”
Which doesn’t seem like the craziest take I’ve ever heard.
PootMcGroot on
It’s perfectly reasonable that she’s confused – so are the virologists at this point.
My random possible options:
1. A barstaff member was infected, and holding glasses high to the rim/picking up glasses with a thumb and forefinger.
2. There was a lot of vape sharing that night.
3. There was someone very beautiful snogging half the building.
4. Someone spat in the fog machine.
Hopefully it’s one of those, because a new highly contractable strain would be an absolute nightmare.
0Bento on
>Ms Jones-Roberts urged for a wider vaccine rollout but herself has not been vaccinated, but she has had antibiotics.
Do journalists no longer need to demonstrate competency in the English language?
Intrepid-Example6125 on
Why can’t everyone just realise it’s simply through kissing one another. It’s really not that difficult to understand unless you can’t think properly. It’s what you do when you’re a uni student. But this is reddit so I imagine most people on here would be too scared to interact sexually with their preferred orientation.
WhiskersMcGee09 on
Oh wow, something I actually have first hand information on – assume one of those staff members is my cousin as he works/worked there.
He doesn’t actually have meningitis, turns out he developed a blood infection at the same time and it’s unrelated. Had a lumbar puncture etc and was cleared but still laid up in hospital.
BeaDrawDabbity on
Back in the day when I utilised a rolled up banknote, that banknote was passed about a group of up to 20 people, depending how many of us were out that night. Seems more likely that 20 people could have picked it up from that single banknote and bag, than 20 people in that group decided to share their germs in another way
Strict-East-9211 on
I am not going to be concerned until we start seeing cases with no connection to the initial outbreak.
I *know* this is not Covid, but the surest sign things were going to go to shit were when the government was saying ‘everything is fine’ while cases were popping up from people who had not travelled to China or been in contact with anyone who had been there – that’s when it became obvious that the thing was spreading in the general population.
Thankfully, so far we have not heard of this with the outbreak of MenB in Kent.
misimalu on
As someone who was 18 in the late 90s/early 2000s, I lost a total of 5 friends to Meningitis with more who caught it but thankfully survived and yet more I didn’t know who died. For a lot of my 20s I used to run marathons for Meningitis Research Foundation who ran awareness campaigns in schools. We were so paranoid about it. I assume that had changed. It really would whip round the Unis when we’d all be out clubbing three nights a week. There’s nothing fishy here, just people too young to remember when it was to unusual to loose a couple of friends to it when you were a teenager.
Mundane-Style4111 on
Pretty sure it’s been recently, within the last three hours or so, clarified that it’s very likely “just” the normal strain of Men B.
soggyarsonist on
Not really sure a nightclub owner is qualified to comment on a meningitis outbreak. Extremely irresponsible journalism to start publishing some unqualified persons speculations that something unusual is happening.
Accurate-Republic763 on
Well something that *does* make sense would be if someone were to say meningitis is bad
_Dinosaurlaserfight on
It would not shock me if it’s spread through sharing vapes, kissing and sharing glasses etc.
Jigsawsupport on
“Something doesn’t make sense”.
Oh yeah how could a nightclub full of sweaty twenty somethings, sucking each other faces while sipping drinks out of glasses that a scary amount of venues don’t actually bother to wash, could possibly be at the centre of a outbreak.
The real mystery is why there isn’t an outbreak of something nasty every month.
prisonerofazkabants on
i do have to wonder if the prevalence of vaping has something to do with it
Delicious_Shop9037 on
What is it they are not understanding? Meningitis is spread by saliva and close contact, which as a nightclub owner they should be well aware may be likely to occur in their premises.
SmallGreenArmadillo on
I honestly hope this matter isn’t as sinister as it hints to be.
Negative-Winter-1233 on
Hate to say this as an ex drug worker, but sharing rolled up tenners and then socialising in the club does add up. Club Chem has a long history of drug use, previous drug spiking and poor security, maybe not under the current owner, but not been there for a while..
Most of use carry Men B in our nostrils for our lifetime but it never breaks through. Sharing ‘straws’ is ground zero, this strain was always going to mutate.
Smooth_Imagination on
Not a lot of people know that bacterial meningitis transmission can be via clothing, and that occasional hot washes is needed to kill it, which we rarely do nowadays. This may influence communal infection rates and trends.
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>She also voiced her confusion about the how the outbreak spread.
>”My point to the government has been, there’s been a lot of talk about how hard it is to transmit, but then there’s also, at the same time, saying the conversation is that nobody needs to panic and we don’t all need the vaccine, but at the same time, the things don’t quite add up.
>”Actually, it was transmitted a lot more easily, by the looks of it, than they’re suggesting, so something isn’t making sense somewhere.”
Which doesn’t seem like the craziest take I’ve ever heard.
It’s perfectly reasonable that she’s confused – so are the virologists at this point.
My random possible options:
1. A barstaff member was infected, and holding glasses high to the rim/picking up glasses with a thumb and forefinger.
2. There was a lot of vape sharing that night.
3. There was someone very beautiful snogging half the building.
4. Someone spat in the fog machine.
Hopefully it’s one of those, because a new highly contractable strain would be an absolute nightmare.
>Ms Jones-Roberts urged for a wider vaccine rollout but herself has not been vaccinated, but she has had antibiotics.
Do journalists no longer need to demonstrate competency in the English language?
Why can’t everyone just realise it’s simply through kissing one another. It’s really not that difficult to understand unless you can’t think properly. It’s what you do when you’re a uni student. But this is reddit so I imagine most people on here would be too scared to interact sexually with their preferred orientation.
Oh wow, something I actually have first hand information on – assume one of those staff members is my cousin as he works/worked there.
He doesn’t actually have meningitis, turns out he developed a blood infection at the same time and it’s unrelated. Had a lumbar puncture etc and was cleared but still laid up in hospital.
Back in the day when I utilised a rolled up banknote, that banknote was passed about a group of up to 20 people, depending how many of us were out that night. Seems more likely that 20 people could have picked it up from that single banknote and bag, than 20 people in that group decided to share their germs in another way
I am not going to be concerned until we start seeing cases with no connection to the initial outbreak.
I *know* this is not Covid, but the surest sign things were going to go to shit were when the government was saying ‘everything is fine’ while cases were popping up from people who had not travelled to China or been in contact with anyone who had been there – that’s when it became obvious that the thing was spreading in the general population.
Thankfully, so far we have not heard of this with the outbreak of MenB in Kent.
As someone who was 18 in the late 90s/early 2000s, I lost a total of 5 friends to Meningitis with more who caught it but thankfully survived and yet more I didn’t know who died. For a lot of my 20s I used to run marathons for Meningitis Research Foundation who ran awareness campaigns in schools. We were so paranoid about it. I assume that had changed. It really would whip round the Unis when we’d all be out clubbing three nights a week. There’s nothing fishy here, just people too young to remember when it was to unusual to loose a couple of friends to it when you were a teenager.
Pretty sure it’s been recently, within the last three hours or so, clarified that it’s very likely “just” the normal strain of Men B.
Not really sure a nightclub owner is qualified to comment on a meningitis outbreak. Extremely irresponsible journalism to start publishing some unqualified persons speculations that something unusual is happening.
Well something that *does* make sense would be if someone were to say meningitis is bad
It would not shock me if it’s spread through sharing vapes, kissing and sharing glasses etc.
“Something doesn’t make sense”.
Oh yeah how could a nightclub full of sweaty twenty somethings, sucking each other faces while sipping drinks out of glasses that a scary amount of venues don’t actually bother to wash, could possibly be at the centre of a outbreak.
The real mystery is why there isn’t an outbreak of something nasty every month.
i do have to wonder if the prevalence of vaping has something to do with it
What is it they are not understanding? Meningitis is spread by saliva and close contact, which as a nightclub owner they should be well aware may be likely to occur in their premises.
I honestly hope this matter isn’t as sinister as it hints to be.
Hate to say this as an ex drug worker, but sharing rolled up tenners and then socialising in the club does add up. Club Chem has a long history of drug use, previous drug spiking and poor security, maybe not under the current owner, but not been there for a while..
Most of use carry Men B in our nostrils for our lifetime but it never breaks through. Sharing ‘straws’ is ground zero, this strain was always going to mutate.
Not a lot of people know that bacterial meningitis transmission can be via clothing, and that occasional hot washes is needed to kill it, which we rarely do nowadays. This may influence communal infection rates and trends.