I agree in principle but something makes me suspicious of this ~~bloke’s~~ lady’s motives.
Edit :
This is 100% correct though:
“This idea that superannuation is intergenerational and for passing on to your kids. It’s not…”
AllOfTheD on
“You should give your money to me, not your family,” says “person” who sleeps on pile of money.
ks12x on
Will this go to the workers (aged care and health) or to shareholders?
yew420 on
I’ll sit at home taking gummies until I can’t do that anymore. Then it’s euthanasia for me. All four of my grandparents died in nursing homes with dementia. No way I am going to a nursing home to die.
blitznoodles on
Well, yes that’s kind of what retirement money is for, the inheritance part only occurs because people don’t know when they’ll die.
AutomaticMistake on
Ahh yes, one final grift.
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DrSendy on
Make no mistake, the want to take your money and be lazy.
How it works now. You give the aged care place tonnes of your money. They have to go off and invest it and make returns on that money. All that investment wealth powers their business and preserves the principal invested for as long as possible.
So, they get your super. They get 600,000k of it. They go off and invest it and take all the interest, then they go back.
This guy is worried that the investment market is about to tank and they will be left holding the ball.
He wants YOU to hold the ball. He wants the NEXT GENERATION to hold the ball.
ZappBrannigansTunic on
Yes folks should use their super before relying on government support.
That is the intention and the goal.
A simple means test should include super balance.
jezzster on
If only we had an abundance of natural resources we could apply a 25% tax to, in order to fund essential services
ThirtyBlackGoats666 on
Honestly, I am 42, I expect to use the bulk of my super on paying off my stupid home loan. After that, I will be very unsure about what I will be doing for money when I ‘retire’
TizzyBumblefluff on
I’m sure that CEO doesn’t have a will outlining any generational wealth being passed down.
HiVeMiNdOfStUpId on
“Tracey Burton, the chief executive of Uniting NSW and ACT, will tell an industry event next week **that some wealthier people believe they are entitled** to fully publicly funded aged care – **even while they maintain large superannuation balances** with the intention of leaving the money to their next generation.”
[laughs in Division 296]
If these are the same 0.5% of people who have superannuation over $3M and $10M, then I am all for this.
Spagman_Aus on
Just once can we have the biased view of a CEO considered by a news outlet who then decides, “Nah, I’m not reporting that.”.
Other than confirming what we already know about people like that, what is the point of the article? It just feels like pointless PR for them.
Flashy-Amount626 on
This is a Betoota headline right?
Savings_Dot_8387 on
You’re charging for age care so wtf difference does it make for you?
lliveevill on
The article focuses on equity, and the rich are essentially given a handout. Australia’s rich don’t have their money in superannuation; it’s hidden in trust funds and similar mechanisms that avoid most of the accountabilities that other Australians have to follow. In reality, the focus is on the middle class who have built a nest egg after a lifetime of working. The real question I have with this approach is whether all Australians have a fair go at creating personal wealth, or whether inheritance is required to maintain the status quo? I think Australia effectively has a two-tier health and education system. The proposal doesn’t truly bring equity; instead, it increases the struggle for families to stay afloat in an increasingly unfair society.
Health care, education, child care and aged care should not be commercialised. Otherwise, it just erodes Australia’s fair go approach and makes us a mini America.
rogerrambo075 on
Keating never intended superannuation to be used to hoard massive wealth for inheritance. I agree 100% that there should only be tax concessions for only up to a minimal level. ie. $1.5-$2m fixed to cpi. Many people are gaming the system. Too many lobbied loopholes.
syan22 on
People should have never been allowed to profit over nursing homes. Same with childcare. These are all fundamental needs and yet people have been allowed to become filthy rich from providing a basic need. Shame.
firewaters on
You should die with 0 ideally, isnt that the purpose of super.
MazPet on
“We have to have to shift that thinking that the system should pay for all of our care, because it is going to be limited by the amount of money the government can afford to put into it.” – Sure Tracey, how about we start with religious orgs paying tax.
I want to know what Tracey’s salary package is, in fact I want to know them all, Uniting is a religious org, perhaps “their” money should be used for care. Tried to find Tracey’s net worth could not find it.
harkoninoz on
Sure, as soon as the Board and C-suite can be held personally liable for failure to meet standards and superannuation account holders can request chargebacks via their funds in the same way credit card holders can request them through banks.
MDInvesting on
Meanwhile they exploit the system be excessively charging for things necessary and prevent alternatives.
Mikes005 on
Henhouse should be unlocked. Says fox.
tylerplz on
Then let me start withdrawing from 45.
ilikechooks on
As one born at the arse-end of Gen X, they took away free University for us, I suspected Super would be next. I’m so tired.
VS2ute on
My mother is at the age where going into nursing home is on the cards. But she hasn’t worked since the 1970s, so doesn’t have any superannuation. Too bad for you, CEO.
Sufficient_Tower_366 on
Translation: we could double our aged care fees if we could just get our hands on more private wealth.
Mindless_Can3631 on
Next up, Barber says we need more haircuts!
Mindless-Location-41 on
Aged care should not need CEO’s, who on the most part are self serving manipulative narcissists. The government needs to step up and make a national chain of not for profit aged care centres. This will free up hospital beds and help the ambulance ramping crisis.
ZotBattlehero on
Aged care is already the most efficient wealth stripping machine in the country. Royalties and management fees through complex corporate structures provide the ‘appearance’ of razor thin margins. It’s not out of the goodness of businesses hearts that these facilities are popping up on every street corner.
Long_Cancel_7306 on
“Their money should go to me, not their family” is a strange thing to say out loud.
iball1984 on
I’m all for my parents money, including superannuation, being used to fund them into old age.
I’m not ok with aged care companies increasing their profits at the expense of my parents.
And let’s be clear, this is about increasing profits, not improving care or improving equality or improving efficiency.
T_J_Rain on
Stinking rich aged care company CEO wants your parents’ superannuation payout – TIFIFY.
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I agree in principle but something makes me suspicious of this ~~bloke’s~~ lady’s motives.
Edit :
This is 100% correct though:
“This idea that superannuation is intergenerational and for passing on to your kids. It’s not…”
“You should give your money to me, not your family,” says “person” who sleeps on pile of money.
Will this go to the workers (aged care and health) or to shareholders?
I’ll sit at home taking gummies until I can’t do that anymore. Then it’s euthanasia for me. All four of my grandparents died in nursing homes with dementia. No way I am going to a nursing home to die.
Well, yes that’s kind of what retirement money is for, the inheritance part only occurs because people don’t know when they’ll die.
Ahh yes, one final grift.
[deleted]
Make no mistake, the want to take your money and be lazy.
How it works now. You give the aged care place tonnes of your money. They have to go off and invest it and make returns on that money. All that investment wealth powers their business and preserves the principal invested for as long as possible.
So, they get your super. They get 600,000k of it. They go off and invest it and take all the interest, then they go back.
This guy is worried that the investment market is about to tank and they will be left holding the ball.
He wants YOU to hold the ball. He wants the NEXT GENERATION to hold the ball.
Yes folks should use their super before relying on government support.
That is the intention and the goal.
A simple means test should include super balance.
If only we had an abundance of natural resources we could apply a 25% tax to, in order to fund essential services
Honestly, I am 42, I expect to use the bulk of my super on paying off my stupid home loan. After that, I will be very unsure about what I will be doing for money when I ‘retire’
I’m sure that CEO doesn’t have a will outlining any generational wealth being passed down.
“Tracey Burton, the chief executive of Uniting NSW and ACT, will tell an industry event next week **that some wealthier people believe they are entitled** to fully publicly funded aged care – **even while they maintain large superannuation balances** with the intention of leaving the money to their next generation.”
[laughs in Division 296]
If these are the same 0.5% of people who have superannuation over $3M and $10M, then I am all for this.
Just once can we have the biased view of a CEO considered by a news outlet who then decides, “Nah, I’m not reporting that.”.
Other than confirming what we already know about people like that, what is the point of the article? It just feels like pointless PR for them.
This is a Betoota headline right?
You’re charging for age care so wtf difference does it make for you?
The article focuses on equity, and the rich are essentially given a handout. Australia’s rich don’t have their money in superannuation; it’s hidden in trust funds and similar mechanisms that avoid most of the accountabilities that other Australians have to follow. In reality, the focus is on the middle class who have built a nest egg after a lifetime of working. The real question I have with this approach is whether all Australians have a fair go at creating personal wealth, or whether inheritance is required to maintain the status quo? I think Australia effectively has a two-tier health and education system. The proposal doesn’t truly bring equity; instead, it increases the struggle for families to stay afloat in an increasingly unfair society.
Health care, education, child care and aged care should not be commercialised. Otherwise, it just erodes Australia’s fair go approach and makes us a mini America.
Keating never intended superannuation to be used to hoard massive wealth for inheritance. I agree 100% that there should only be tax concessions for only up to a minimal level. ie. $1.5-$2m fixed to cpi. Many people are gaming the system. Too many lobbied loopholes.
People should have never been allowed to profit over nursing homes. Same with childcare. These are all fundamental needs and yet people have been allowed to become filthy rich from providing a basic need. Shame.
You should die with 0 ideally, isnt that the purpose of super.
“We have to have to shift that thinking that the system should pay for all of our care, because it is going to be limited by the amount of money the government can afford to put into it.” – Sure Tracey, how about we start with religious orgs paying tax.
I want to know what Tracey’s salary package is, in fact I want to know them all, Uniting is a religious org, perhaps “their” money should be used for care. Tried to find Tracey’s net worth could not find it.
Sure, as soon as the Board and C-suite can be held personally liable for failure to meet standards and superannuation account holders can request chargebacks via their funds in the same way credit card holders can request them through banks.
Meanwhile they exploit the system be excessively charging for things necessary and prevent alternatives.
Henhouse should be unlocked. Says fox.
Then let me start withdrawing from 45.
As one born at the arse-end of Gen X, they took away free University for us, I suspected Super would be next. I’m so tired.
My mother is at the age where going into nursing home is on the cards. But she hasn’t worked since the 1970s, so doesn’t have any superannuation. Too bad for you, CEO.
Translation: we could double our aged care fees if we could just get our hands on more private wealth.
Next up, Barber says we need more haircuts!
Aged care should not need CEO’s, who on the most part are self serving manipulative narcissists. The government needs to step up and make a national chain of not for profit aged care centres. This will free up hospital beds and help the ambulance ramping crisis.
Aged care is already the most efficient wealth stripping machine in the country. Royalties and management fees through complex corporate structures provide the ‘appearance’ of razor thin margins. It’s not out of the goodness of businesses hearts that these facilities are popping up on every street corner.
“Their money should go to me, not their family” is a strange thing to say out loud.
I’m all for my parents money, including superannuation, being used to fund them into old age.
I’m not ok with aged care companies increasing their profits at the expense of my parents.
And let’s be clear, this is about increasing profits, not improving care or improving equality or improving efficiency.
Stinking rich aged care company CEO wants your parents’ superannuation payout – TIFIFY.