12 billion on two weeks of fairly half hearted war and only 20 billion on a moon base, that I assume is supposed to last for a while. Seems crazy.
Floppychicken45 on
Honestly, I feel at this point it doesn’t matter what they pick to spend their money on. Just pick something and stick with it for more than 4 years and we might actually see some progress.
fabulousmarco on
Classic US, pulling out of an international partnership when the other side has already built the modules that were requested.
I really hope ESA was smart enough to negotiate penalties for a breach like this and we can get at least some of our money back
Aldren on
So we can build 10 moon bases for what the US is looking to spend on the Iran war?
anon90119 on
As much as I dislike Gateway, this seems to me like they are trying to divert funding from Gateway so they can land humans on the moon before the next general elections.
If you look at the full plan they have in their presentation, they have 50ish launches for phase 1 and 2, but only 20 billions in investments. This is not a serious plan, it’s wishful thinking and diverting money for short term gains.
The budgets don’t make sense to me.
DaySecure7642 on
A good call if really short of cash. The orbiting lunar station does not claim territory but the moon base does.
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Fancy_Exchange_9821 on
Based based based based
Idc who does it, I want the for all mankind timeline even if it’s fucked up
Bdr1983 on
While gateway wasn’t a great idea, it’s not a great move to cancel it. Modules have already been built, a lot of money has been spent. Great way to throw that all away.
JustUrAvg-Depresso on
Please do spend the money on the frontier of space instead of the frontier of each other, hubris, ego, hate and racism. The ocean and space are the forever frontiers of humanity. Trump already funneled 20 billion of tax payers into his own Pocket
Dramatic_Mastodon_93 on
ok NASA is done for, let me know when they can stick to a plan for more than 30 minutes
Rojodojo on
Holy shit, I may actually get to see moon wars in my lifetime X-D
farganbastige on
Moon Base… Alpha?
D’yerrr d’yerr dit d’yerrrrr
nucrash on
$20 billion for a base on the Moon? What is he smoking? The ISS cost upwards of $150 billion to build in 2010 dollars. That’s just low Earth orbit. We aren’t talking about getting the mass of a station to the Moon.
Srdthrowawayshite on
What will happen with the Gateway parts that were already built and/or contracted to be launched?
howescj82 on
Ultimately, this has a vibe like it has to be about claiming lunar territory in advance of multiple countries having a presence on the moon.
Brilliant_Koala4955 on
The China will land there one day and build peramanent habitat and they will be still making awesome plans without execution. It will be a random day without prior notice.
Ccbm2208 on
20 billion for the next 10 years in today’s money sounds like such chump change though.
How much was already covered in Artemis’s develpment cost so far that this type of proposal is even serious?
Eymrich on
I bet they are going to pay 10 billions to musk to the lander, and in a couple of year he is going to…
Do what he did last time, exploding rockets that fail to maintain orbit.
sanic55 on
Well fuck all the billions in ESA hardware that was already in development I guess. Hopefully they’ll at least get extra seats or some form of compensation out of this.
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Good. Gateway didn’t make sense to begin with
12 billion on two weeks of fairly half hearted war and only 20 billion on a moon base, that I assume is supposed to last for a while. Seems crazy.
Honestly, I feel at this point it doesn’t matter what they pick to spend their money on. Just pick something and stick with it for more than 4 years and we might actually see some progress.
Classic US, pulling out of an international partnership when the other side has already built the modules that were requested.
I really hope ESA was smart enough to negotiate penalties for a breach like this and we can get at least some of our money back
So we can build 10 moon bases for what the US is looking to spend on the Iran war?
As much as I dislike Gateway, this seems to me like they are trying to divert funding from Gateway so they can land humans on the moon before the next general elections.
If you look at the full plan they have in their presentation, they have 50ish launches for phase 1 and 2, but only 20 billions in investments. This is not a serious plan, it’s wishful thinking and diverting money for short term gains.
The budgets don’t make sense to me.
A good call if really short of cash. The orbiting lunar station does not claim territory but the moon base does.
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Based based based based
Idc who does it, I want the for all mankind timeline even if it’s fucked up
While gateway wasn’t a great idea, it’s not a great move to cancel it. Modules have already been built, a lot of money has been spent. Great way to throw that all away.
Please do spend the money on the frontier of space instead of the frontier of each other, hubris, ego, hate and racism. The ocean and space are the forever frontiers of humanity. Trump already funneled 20 billion of tax payers into his own Pocket
ok NASA is done for, let me know when they can stick to a plan for more than 30 minutes
Holy shit, I may actually get to see moon wars in my lifetime X-D
Moon Base… Alpha?
D’yerrr d’yerr dit d’yerrrrr
$20 billion for a base on the Moon? What is he smoking? The ISS cost upwards of $150 billion to build in 2010 dollars. That’s just low Earth orbit. We aren’t talking about getting the mass of a station to the Moon.
What will happen with the Gateway parts that were already built and/or contracted to be launched?
Ultimately, this has a vibe like it has to be about claiming lunar territory in advance of multiple countries having a presence on the moon.
The China will land there one day and build peramanent habitat and they will be still making awesome plans without execution. It will be a random day without prior notice.
20 billion for the next 10 years in today’s money sounds like such chump change though.
How much was already covered in Artemis’s develpment cost so far that this type of proposal is even serious?
I bet they are going to pay 10 billions to musk to the lander, and in a couple of year he is going to…
Do what he did last time, exploding rockets that fail to maintain orbit.
Well fuck all the billions in ESA hardware that was already in development I guess. Hopefully they’ll at least get extra seats or some form of compensation out of this.