Anyone in Nigel Farage’s orbit can be completely ignored tbh
qwerty_1965 on
He’s probably right but obviously it also aids Reform UK now funding is coming under pressure!
fern-grower on
Thay will with no fertiliser coming out of the middle east.
Sluggybeef on
Arable farmers are being absolutely squeezed. The only thing they have made money off this year has been straw.
The biggest issue is we have a government that have undervalued agri in the first year of their government. Brought in poorly thought out taxation. Removed subsidies which offset low prices and now want more focus on environmental payments while allowing the inport of basically anything
Edit: just to add they do seem to have got their act together with the appointment of Emma Reynolds as Defra sec. Steve Reed was awful
Zenigata on
Never thought I’d see a party with realistic chance of power calling for a return of the corn law.
Tens of millions of Britain buy wheat, thousands grow it. Crazy to suggest tens of millions should be harmed to enrich a few.
Thetonn on
Farming in the UK is a complete shitshow.
We have somehow created a system where the state heavily subsidises mass environmental destruction, regularly giving millionaires massive amounts of tax breaks and direct fiscal transfers in a manner that is highly regressive, for little to no public benefit. The result has been rich people buying up farms to use as tax wheezes, crowding out most non-millionaires from being able to set themselves up in farming.
I am increasingly of the view that we should just go full Kiwi, remove all subsidies and protections, let the majority of farms fail, and then support new farmers coming in that think they can actually compete.
Dial-Appreciator on
Or…just cut taxes for farmers. They need an incentive to keep making stuff we need for a price we can afford
Particular-Scale5644 on
Reform nonsense aside I do wish there was some hands across the aisle stuff between struggling urban and rural groups. As a born and bred city boy my impression is that farmers only ever turn out for their own issues and otherwise seem comfortable kicking down on urban populations (certainly with their voting patterns). We don’t turn out for their issues either although the disdain doesn’t seem to go both ways quite so much. Either way, supply chains and corporate gouging hurt us all, there should be space for solidarity there at least.
mightypup1974 on
Whenever someone tells you it’s really not that hard is proposing something completely fucking stupid.
cb_retro on
Do you really think those who want to do this to their own country and people are truly patriotic?
Isn’t this enough to understand that their entire political strategy is about forming a government, that is, they want power, and that they don’t care about the people at all?
Prestigious-Emu-3877 on
But the price is global. British farmers would just be undercut by imports
High-Tom-Titty on
I would be interested in seeing a proper breakdown of the profits, and costs for a bag of plain flour. We already know it’s not the famer by a long way that takes the biggest slice of the profits, but I would also like to see the costs associated with getting that bag on the supermarket shelves. My guess is the miller/processor takes a large chunk, and they’re not some family run, wind powered mill.
Jolly_Psychology_506 on
Cock piss Farage (Aka as the political Alan Partridge)
ParrotofDoom on
> “Trade policy could double wheat price over night, job done! It’s really not hard.”
This from the party who were talking about DOGE-style savings when in government, and who then found pretty much zero savings to be made and instead decided to raise council tax.
SOS_Im_Sinking on
What is this? The plot to The Mayor of Casterbridge?
iamnotinterested2 on
a guy i met i the pub the other day, he said wheat prices should treble.
TheOnlyWayIsWessex on
“Man selling wheat calls for wheat prices to double” would be a more accurate headline.
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benrinnes on
Actually it doesn’t personally bother me, I have to be gluten-free.
But regardless, Fuck Garage over the kitchen table!
pajamakitten on
> job done! It’s really not hard.”
I think anyone who says this about any major political issues can safely be ignored. Nothing is ever that simple and it shows either an inability to spot ramifications, or a desire to ignore them entirely.
Puzzleheaded-Key2212 on
Farmers need to be paid a fair price for what they produce though. All thats happening at the moment is supermarkets are enriching themselves.
HeftyVermicelli7823 on
So lets see.
Every council with Reform have increased or doubled their council tax as they have zero idea who actual things are run after making blanket promises.
Now want wheat to double which would make us uncompetitive in the EU and global market, something we would have been protected for with the Farmers had we stayed in the EU and Nigel “I love and are paid for by Russia” Farage dresses like he wants to go and hunt humans on his private land and pretends he is a “Farmer”. The only thing related to a farm that comes via him is all the bullshit he spouts.
IlIIIllIIlIlllII on
they didnt learn with brexit, they wont learn with reform
NoTitleChamp on
Farage and Farmers in the same headline. Good remember that he hyped them to actively campaign and vote to lose EU funding without the UK government commiting to replacing it.
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Anyone in Nigel Farage’s orbit can be completely ignored tbh
He’s probably right but obviously it also aids Reform UK now funding is coming under pressure!
Thay will with no fertiliser coming out of the middle east.
Arable farmers are being absolutely squeezed. The only thing they have made money off this year has been straw.
The biggest issue is we have a government that have undervalued agri in the first year of their government. Brought in poorly thought out taxation. Removed subsidies which offset low prices and now want more focus on environmental payments while allowing the inport of basically anything
Edit: just to add they do seem to have got their act together with the appointment of Emma Reynolds as Defra sec. Steve Reed was awful
Never thought I’d see a party with realistic chance of power calling for a return of the corn law.
Tens of millions of Britain buy wheat, thousands grow it. Crazy to suggest tens of millions should be harmed to enrich a few.
Farming in the UK is a complete shitshow.
We have somehow created a system where the state heavily subsidises mass environmental destruction, regularly giving millionaires massive amounts of tax breaks and direct fiscal transfers in a manner that is highly regressive, for little to no public benefit. The result has been rich people buying up farms to use as tax wheezes, crowding out most non-millionaires from being able to set themselves up in farming.
I am increasingly of the view that we should just go full Kiwi, remove all subsidies and protections, let the majority of farms fail, and then support new farmers coming in that think they can actually compete.
Or…just cut taxes for farmers. They need an incentive to keep making stuff we need for a price we can afford
Reform nonsense aside I do wish there was some hands across the aisle stuff between struggling urban and rural groups. As a born and bred city boy my impression is that farmers only ever turn out for their own issues and otherwise seem comfortable kicking down on urban populations (certainly with their voting patterns). We don’t turn out for their issues either although the disdain doesn’t seem to go both ways quite so much. Either way, supply chains and corporate gouging hurt us all, there should be space for solidarity there at least.
Whenever someone tells you it’s really not that hard is proposing something completely fucking stupid.
Do you really think those who want to do this to their own country and people are truly patriotic?
Isn’t this enough to understand that their entire political strategy is about forming a government, that is, they want power, and that they don’t care about the people at all?
But the price is global. British farmers would just be undercut by imports
I would be interested in seeing a proper breakdown of the profits, and costs for a bag of plain flour. We already know it’s not the famer by a long way that takes the biggest slice of the profits, but I would also like to see the costs associated with getting that bag on the supermarket shelves. My guess is the miller/processor takes a large chunk, and they’re not some family run, wind powered mill.
Cock piss Farage (Aka as the political Alan Partridge)
> “Trade policy could double wheat price over night, job done! It’s really not hard.”
This from the party who were talking about DOGE-style savings when in government, and who then found pretty much zero savings to be made and instead decided to raise council tax.
What is this? The plot to The Mayor of Casterbridge?
a guy i met i the pub the other day, he said wheat prices should treble.
“Man selling wheat calls for wheat prices to double” would be a more accurate headline.
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Actually it doesn’t personally bother me, I have to be gluten-free.
But regardless, Fuck Garage over the kitchen table!
> job done! It’s really not hard.”
I think anyone who says this about any major political issues can safely be ignored. Nothing is ever that simple and it shows either an inability to spot ramifications, or a desire to ignore them entirely.
Farmers need to be paid a fair price for what they produce though. All thats happening at the moment is supermarkets are enriching themselves.
So lets see.
Every council with Reform have increased or doubled their council tax as they have zero idea who actual things are run after making blanket promises.
Now want wheat to double which would make us uncompetitive in the EU and global market, something we would have been protected for with the Farmers had we stayed in the EU and Nigel “I love and are paid for by Russia” Farage dresses like he wants to go and hunt humans on his private land and pretends he is a “Farmer”. The only thing related to a farm that comes via him is all the bullshit he spouts.
they didnt learn with brexit, they wont learn with reform
Farage and Farmers in the same headline. Good remember that he hyped them to actively campaign and vote to lose EU funding without the UK government commiting to replacing it.