> Meanwhile, fewer than one in 100 mobile phone thefts led to a suspect being charged
How many phones are stolen every day? This feels like an even more alarming stat
PackageOk4947 on
Yet post a controvisial facebook rant and god damn
Greedy-Tutor3824 on
I don’t think I’ve ever reported a crime that was resolved by the police. Not found them to be a useful service in my lifetime.Â
TomatoMiserable3043 on
What percentage of those had forensics or footage available? The CPS are oddly picky on things like ‘evidence’.
It would also be better to see a force by force breakdown- some forces are much better than this, while some are worse.
Unfortunately, given how easy it is for a competent burglar to leave no forensics and hide their identity, it’s not surprising that numbers are this low.
PercentageNo3843 on
I bet if the burglar was beat up and hospitalised they would send the A-Team to destroy the home owner
Dark_Akarin on
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dickyboy_adams on
Just think about how many homes have video doorbells recording any movement on your road. Even with all that “security” the police cant get a better outcome.
individualcoffeecake on
I actually reported a crime about 15+ years ago they solved. Someone broke into my house and stole cash along with a few items.
A neighbour saw the car and gave the license plate to the police. They tracked it down to the guy’s driveway. He had literally driven home and left a car full of stolen goods from multiple houses.
The frustrating part? I knew exactly how much cash was taken, £400, but the police wouldn’t return it to me because I didn’t have a receipt for withdrawing the money.
Longjumping_Kale_661 on
A friend of mine’s downstairs neighbour was burgled, he came home to a smashed front door and everything ransacked. He called the police and was told to leave everything as it was until forensics came. It took them 4 days to show up, whole time he just had to sit with a visibly destroyed front door and amongst all his broken things. Not sure what the outcome of the investigation was but a pitiful way to treat a victim and the evidence was presumably degraded by the time they got around to it.Â
No_Suit_9511 on
The police basically don’t have the resources to pursue anything but the most serious violent crime.
If you get murdered, the police will probably find your killer. If your bicycle gets stolen, the police probably won’t even show up.
Izual_Rebirth on
Just to play devils advocate. What do people expect the police to do with crimes where it’s incredibly difficult to identify the culprit?
I get the annoyance and there are definitely areas they can do better in and god knows individual cases where they can investigate they don’t . I have a massive issue with those cases. But in reality when there’s little to no evidence what’s the solution?
I’m not immune to this myself. Someone broke into into my shed a few years back. Nothing happened when I raised it with the police. I was pissed but a mate of mine who’s a copper just said “what do you expect us to do when you don’t have any CCTV footage of who did it – we’re not psychic”. And tbh I do get it.
LiamoLuo on
Not really sure how in most cases we expect them to be able to solve it. Burglars will cover faces and wear gloves, so not really leaving behind any evidence. I’m sure in rare instances someone might come forward who knows enough to prove someones guilt, but with these types of crimes thats going to be rare. I don’t find this stat that shocking sadly.
stowgood on
I don’t really believe they solved 8% if I’m being honest. Don’t they just give a crime number and close it?
aleopardstail on
given the way they handled it the three times I’ve had break ins the surprise is they managed to solve 8%
Ok_Impact9745 on
Are criminals actually still robbing people’s houses in significant numbers.
Looking at crime in terms of risk Vs reward and burglary doesn’t seem worth it. Most consumer electronics are worth literally nothing second hand. Very few people have valuable jewellery.
A quick snatch and grab of someone’s phone is quicker and easier than breaking into someone’s home. Shoplifting is badly monitored by supermarkets etc.
Breaking into someone’s home seems kind of pointless
most_crispy_owl on
I’m convinced a lot of crime is now treated as an insurance thing. So if someone steals your card, you report to the police, then give the bank your crime ref, then you get your money back.
There’s so little punishment for anything nowadays unless you post on social media! Ridiculous.
There’s some members of society that aren’t phaised by punishments in the form of a strongly worded letter or having a ‘criminal record’
Pristine-Ad74 on
Usually it’s the same person or gang committing multiple burglaries in the area and eventually they get caught and linked to a couple they have committed at best. So they usually do get the perpetrators but they can’t close all the burglaries they have committed even though they eventually end up behind bars
AmbivelentApoplectic on
They won’t deal with crimes that impact most members of society. Never the resources for burglaries, car thefts or muggings.
But if someone is selling dodgy fire sticks and taking money out of Rupert Murdoch’s pocket then suddenly they have all the will and resources necessary for dawn raids and arrests.
Cabalist_writes on
They can’t really solve them. Out of region burglars, the effort it’d take to track via forensics, lack of easy CCTV etc. Unless we accept panopticon level surveillance and mandatory ID tags, it’s hard to track soke buggers who can skip off without a trace. And even if you have a camera yourself, how do you id someone?
I partly see why but as a victim of a burglary (they were in and out in 5 minutes while I was asleep upstairs.. woke up, got downstairs and they were out the door.) it’s really frustrating knowing things are gone and your home has been invaded. And that the police are basically useless.
Police seem to just exist to give you a crime reference number to send to your insurer. That’s it.
SableSnail on
It’s classic anarchotyranny, you need to upload your face or ID to look at ‘naughty’ websites (which even includes home brewing advice on Reddit etc.) but if someone nicks your phone or robs your house then good luck.
naystation on
“failed to solve” makes it sound like they made attempts to solve, in my personal experience, they did absolutely nothing.
Astriania on
“Failed to solve” implies that they even tried.
Our police service has been cut to the level that it doesn’t actually provide a service any more. They simply won’t investigate “minor” crimes – which means that those criminals know they are invulnerable from consequences, encouraging the crime. This is most obvious for phone snatching and shoplifting, but it’s also true for bike theft and it seems it’s got as far up the scale as burglary (which is *not* a minor crime, it’s a serious violation of personal safety, even if they only actually took £100 of stuff).
Spoffin1 on
This seems unfair, they didn’t even try to solve most of them
BulldenChoppahYus on
Just a reminder that crime overall is decreasing. Violent crime down. Thefts down. Computer fraud down. etc etc. Headlines like this are there to make you angry and click and comment and commiserate and wave your arms around.
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> Meanwhile, fewer than one in 100 mobile phone thefts led to a suspect being charged
How many phones are stolen every day? This feels like an even more alarming stat
Yet post a controvisial facebook rant and god damn
I don’t think I’ve ever reported a crime that was resolved by the police. Not found them to be a useful service in my lifetime.Â
What percentage of those had forensics or footage available? The CPS are oddly picky on things like ‘evidence’.
It would also be better to see a force by force breakdown- some forces are much better than this, while some are worse.
Unfortunately, given how easy it is for a competent burglar to leave no forensics and hide their identity, it’s not surprising that numbers are this low.
I bet if the burglar was beat up and hospitalised they would send the A-Team to destroy the home owner
Earn extra money with a 92% success rate with this one simple trick!
Just think about how many homes have video doorbells recording any movement on your road. Even with all that “security” the police cant get a better outcome.
I actually reported a crime about 15+ years ago they solved. Someone broke into my house and stole cash along with a few items.
A neighbour saw the car and gave the license plate to the police. They tracked it down to the guy’s driveway. He had literally driven home and left a car full of stolen goods from multiple houses.
The frustrating part? I knew exactly how much cash was taken, £400, but the police wouldn’t return it to me because I didn’t have a receipt for withdrawing the money.
A friend of mine’s downstairs neighbour was burgled, he came home to a smashed front door and everything ransacked. He called the police and was told to leave everything as it was until forensics came. It took them 4 days to show up, whole time he just had to sit with a visibly destroyed front door and amongst all his broken things. Not sure what the outcome of the investigation was but a pitiful way to treat a victim and the evidence was presumably degraded by the time they got around to it.Â
The police basically don’t have the resources to pursue anything but the most serious violent crime.
If you get murdered, the police will probably find your killer. If your bicycle gets stolen, the police probably won’t even show up.
Just to play devils advocate. What do people expect the police to do with crimes where it’s incredibly difficult to identify the culprit?
I get the annoyance and there are definitely areas they can do better in and god knows individual cases where they can investigate they don’t . I have a massive issue with those cases. But in reality when there’s little to no evidence what’s the solution?
I’m not immune to this myself. Someone broke into into my shed a few years back. Nothing happened when I raised it with the police. I was pissed but a mate of mine who’s a copper just said “what do you expect us to do when you don’t have any CCTV footage of who did it – we’re not psychic”. And tbh I do get it.
Not really sure how in most cases we expect them to be able to solve it. Burglars will cover faces and wear gloves, so not really leaving behind any evidence. I’m sure in rare instances someone might come forward who knows enough to prove someones guilt, but with these types of crimes thats going to be rare. I don’t find this stat that shocking sadly.
I don’t really believe they solved 8% if I’m being honest. Don’t they just give a crime number and close it?
given the way they handled it the three times I’ve had break ins the surprise is they managed to solve 8%
Are criminals actually still robbing people’s houses in significant numbers.
Looking at crime in terms of risk Vs reward and burglary doesn’t seem worth it. Most consumer electronics are worth literally nothing second hand. Very few people have valuable jewellery.
A quick snatch and grab of someone’s phone is quicker and easier than breaking into someone’s home. Shoplifting is badly monitored by supermarkets etc.
Breaking into someone’s home seems kind of pointless
I’m convinced a lot of crime is now treated as an insurance thing. So if someone steals your card, you report to the police, then give the bank your crime ref, then you get your money back.
There’s so little punishment for anything nowadays unless you post on social media! Ridiculous.
There’s some members of society that aren’t phaised by punishments in the form of a strongly worded letter or having a ‘criminal record’
Usually it’s the same person or gang committing multiple burglaries in the area and eventually they get caught and linked to a couple they have committed at best. So they usually do get the perpetrators but they can’t close all the burglaries they have committed even though they eventually end up behind bars
They won’t deal with crimes that impact most members of society. Never the resources for burglaries, car thefts or muggings.
But if someone is selling dodgy fire sticks and taking money out of Rupert Murdoch’s pocket then suddenly they have all the will and resources necessary for dawn raids and arrests.
They can’t really solve them. Out of region burglars, the effort it’d take to track via forensics, lack of easy CCTV etc. Unless we accept panopticon level surveillance and mandatory ID tags, it’s hard to track soke buggers who can skip off without a trace. And even if you have a camera yourself, how do you id someone?
I partly see why but as a victim of a burglary (they were in and out in 5 minutes while I was asleep upstairs.. woke up, got downstairs and they were out the door.) it’s really frustrating knowing things are gone and your home has been invaded. And that the police are basically useless.
Police seem to just exist to give you a crime reference number to send to your insurer. That’s it.
It’s classic anarchotyranny, you need to upload your face or ID to look at ‘naughty’ websites (which even includes home brewing advice on Reddit etc.) but if someone nicks your phone or robs your house then good luck.
“failed to solve” makes it sound like they made attempts to solve, in my personal experience, they did absolutely nothing.
“Failed to solve” implies that they even tried.
Our police service has been cut to the level that it doesn’t actually provide a service any more. They simply won’t investigate “minor” crimes – which means that those criminals know they are invulnerable from consequences, encouraging the crime. This is most obvious for phone snatching and shoplifting, but it’s also true for bike theft and it seems it’s got as far up the scale as burglary (which is *not* a minor crime, it’s a serious violation of personal safety, even if they only actually took £100 of stuff).
This seems unfair, they didn’t even try to solve most of them
Just a reminder that crime overall is decreasing. Violent crime down. Thefts down. Computer fraud down. etc etc. Headlines like this are there to make you angry and click and comment and commiserate and wave your arms around.