Is he throwing his duckie out of the bathtub again?
CallmeKahn on
Okay, who wants to tell him?
Zealousideal-Bat708 on
Seems appropriate to leave once you have threatened to invade fellow members.
WardenEdgewise on
The US needs to be put in a time out.
afreshstart2015 on
Hopefully countries dont fall for this pedophiles blackmailÂ
To quote what was said by others
You start a fire
You put it out
NATO is a defensive alliance and not for rogue members to start wars and drag others inÂ
The Next US president is going to have fun on damage control after the next electionÂ
ElTejon_TheDestroyer on
What does congress have to say about that?
My2centsallday on
How transparent can it be. He hates NATO, NATO hates him.
NOT_EVEN_THAT_GUY on
there it is
russia’s plan all along
SkinnedIt on
He can fuck all the way off. Nothing about this Iran situation is NATO business.
pessimistkonsulenten on
Surely the US military-industrial complex would be upset if they exited NATO?
viccityguy2k on
Not America Treaty Organization
TriXter69 on
He keeps threatening to leave either do it or shut up, no one cares anymore
foghillgal on
Frack do it and stop yacking about it. Right now not sure you wouldn`t side with damn Russia anyway.
Close all your damn bases, that goes with those the countries in the Alliance has outside Europe. Good luck projecting power when you have to carry everything on a boat with a fire in its toilets. Cause that`s were this is heading.
Geo_NL on
Seems pretty clear to me Americans need to get rid of this unstable narcissistic criminal. He’s going to take the world down with him otherwise. This needs to stop. But don’t just end with stopping Trump, this goes way deeper. There is a deep rot at its core. Just look at others like Vance, Musk, Thiel, the Heritage Foundation, There has to be a serious revolution of somekind.
All signs are pretty clear that:
A) Trump has a fragile ego and is mentally unstable.
B) MAGA movement is actively trying to destroy the world order. Economically and politically.
C) Who benefits? A couple of billionaires filling their pockets with pump & dump schemes and other types of fraud. On top of that other state entities benefit from it, such as Russia. Russia has been profiting of the backs of its citizens in the same way. Hoarding money for the happy few, amidst the post-Soviet Union chaos. Then there is Netanyahu who also has his own reasons for having an endless war.
It has all seriously gone to hell.
New_Parking9991 on
does that mean US will have to give more to use bases across europe?
Most deals through nato would be canceled. That means US would have make new bilateral deals with each nation in particular.
I guess he gonna hurt his own country because his ego was hurt?
Basicyeti837 on
It’s nice to see Trump is finding ways to make Putin’s wishes come true. Well, not wishes… Putin’s orders to Trump. Same difference.
Ahindre on
He’s been considering this for 10 years. It’s not new, it’s just new that he said it again.
Huskies2988 on
Great so lets get the timeline:
Mad at NATO for Ukraine
Mad at NATO for not spending enough
Threatens to abandon NATO
Starts war with Iran
Wins War (trademark)
Hasn’t won war so asks for help
Help is denied since we started it
Mad that others wont help him win the won war
Moves goal from regime change to open strait (which was open before we bombed them)
Says we will pull out even if the strait isn’t opened
Now threatens to pull out of NATO because of our own self-made war
Calm-Professional103 on
It’s surrealistic to watch the US destroy itself because no one has the stones to remove the cause if its destruction.Â
Dangerous_Muscle5409 on
I have some questions about Section 1250A of the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act.
Trump threatening to leave NATO is just a day ending in Y.
By now it feels different though, the anti-NATO rhetoric from the US administration is reaching a fever pitch. I am aware that the president does not have the authority to unilaterally withdraw from NATO, explicitly restricted by the provision mentioned above.
But as we say in my country: Paper is patient. By now, due to this administration’s disregard for law and order and its explicit and premeditated (Project 2024) undermining of the separation of powers in the USA, I have doubts that the provision mentioned above will actually do anything to stop Trump from doing what he threatens he will do.
So I need somebody who is more plugged into US politics and news to answer a few questions for me:
Reading about it it was unclear to me how Section 1250A of the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act actually enforces itself. It mentions “withholding funds for a withdrawal” but I don’t see how that would prevent anything. How does Section 1250A actually enforce itself?
If the president decided to withdraw from NATO without congressional approval, what would congress be able to do about it and would it take those steps if they exist?
If the supreme court got involved and tried to block a withdrawal from NATO, how would such a verdict be enforced? (Especially in the context of the supreme court decision Trump v United States giving the president the ability to act with complete impunity.)
I apologise for my typos, I’m typing this on a touch screen and I am using a simplified keyboard because they put AI in everything now.
Greetings from a country that is supposedly an ally of the United States.
sachiprecious on
How convenient for putin. trump makes up an absolutely nonsense, BS excuse to try to get the US out of NATO. Exactly what putin wants. Sickening.
>The U.S. president, a long-time critic of the alliance, went on to call NATO a “paper tiger” and said Russian President Vladimir Putin shares that opinion.
trump is openly declaring that he and putin share the same opinion. He’s not even trying to hide the fact that he’s working with putin.
illuminatiisnowhere on
He´s like a fucking 5 year old.
Soopah_Fly on
Well, he was acting adversarial long ago. Countries have been moving away from the USA ever since they started threatening Canada and Greenland.
Btw, Denmark actually sent soldiers to Greenland to mine airstrips there to defend themselves from a possible American invasion.
Why your supposed ‘allies’ are training to fight you off, they’re not going to lose too much sleep with you leaving the club.
Brief-Weekend7630 on
I feel like this has been his agenda all along. That’s why the irrational threats towards taking Canada and Greenland, pointless war with Iran to have reason to distance themselves from NATO and draw closer with Russia.
Once he gets out of NATO and significantly weaken it, Russia will go for Baltic States and he will go for Greenland or Canada and whatever else this sick twisted fuck has on his mind.
I hope I’m wrong, but it doesn’t look good at all. He already made his “Board of Peace” with similar minded nations which he will rename “Board of War” like he did with Ministry of Defense and proclaim that it’s time to take what Murica rightfully should own.
tranquilseafinally on
He wants to attack Greenland and Canada. This way he can.
Canadians know that this is his long game. We are preparing as much as we can.
Negafox on
It’s a shame that Republicans are simping for this clown. Everything this clown does is anti-American values and downright illegal. His strategy is “do whatever I want because it’ll be too late to stop me when the courts say no”
And, hey folks, Apple, Google, Microsoft, and NVIDIA “donated” towards that ballroom construction that everybody knew wasn’t legal to begin with
Ryan_e3p on
If not Russian asset, why Russian asset shaped?
DistanceToEmpty on
Is the US prepared to lose bases like RAF Lakenheath, Ramstein, Aviano, Incirlik, Pituffik and Diageo Garcia? Can the US build aircraft carriers and logistics ships fast enough to fill that gap in force projection capability?
Is the US prepared to have a huge radar gap over the Arctic from the Yukon, east to Russia?
Why would NATO countries keep playing ball with the US if the US is no longer in NATO?
IMHO, take Hungary with you. Free up NATO to assist Ukraine more.
ronimal on
The next US President is going to have their hands full rebuilding foreign relations.
Fire_Z1 on
Russia owns Trump
FujiKitakyusho on
…because wirhdrawing from a defensive alliance right at peak “every other country on Earth hates you” is a power move.
Or something.
RedShirtCashion on
As an American, I should say I’m shocked and appalled at this, but……..unfortunately I’m not. The man wants it to go his way and is not happy when it doesn’t. He doesn’t understand the meaning of no, and likes to surround himself with both yes men and powerful people, which includes, unfortunately, strongmen who rule countries with an iron fist.
pattyG80 on
He was ordered to leave NATO by Putin. He’s just being a good employee
Tubatu2 on
Good, a defensive pact should not contain a member who actively threatens its other members with military force and annexation. We’ll welcome the US back after it de-Nazifies and proves that it’s not going to invade the world in a tantrum of 21st century Manifest Destiny
immaSandNi-woops on
And again Russia is somehow benefitting
robodrew on
Donald Trump is the biggest piece of shit in the entire world.
36 Comments
Is he throwing his duckie out of the bathtub again?
Okay, who wants to tell him?
Seems appropriate to leave once you have threatened to invade fellow members.
The US needs to be put in a time out.
Hopefully countries dont fall for this pedophiles blackmailÂ
To quote what was said by others
You start a fire
You put it out
NATO is a defensive alliance and not for rogue members to start wars and drag others inÂ
The Next US president is going to have fun on damage control after the next electionÂ
What does congress have to say about that?
How transparent can it be. He hates NATO, NATO hates him.
there it is
russia’s plan all along
He can fuck all the way off. Nothing about this Iran situation is NATO business.
Surely the US military-industrial complex would be upset if they exited NATO?
Not America Treaty Organization
He keeps threatening to leave either do it or shut up, no one cares anymore
Frack do it and stop yacking about it. Right now not sure you wouldn`t side with damn Russia anyway.
Close all your damn bases, that goes with those the countries in the Alliance has outside Europe. Good luck projecting power when you have to carry everything on a boat with a fire in its toilets. Cause that`s were this is heading.
Seems pretty clear to me Americans need to get rid of this unstable narcissistic criminal. He’s going to take the world down with him otherwise. This needs to stop. But don’t just end with stopping Trump, this goes way deeper. There is a deep rot at its core. Just look at others like Vance, Musk, Thiel, the Heritage Foundation, There has to be a serious revolution of somekind.
All signs are pretty clear that:
A) Trump has a fragile ego and is mentally unstable.
B) MAGA movement is actively trying to destroy the world order. Economically and politically.
C) Who benefits? A couple of billionaires filling their pockets with pump & dump schemes and other types of fraud. On top of that other state entities benefit from it, such as Russia. Russia has been profiting of the backs of its citizens in the same way. Hoarding money for the happy few, amidst the post-Soviet Union chaos. Then there is Netanyahu who also has his own reasons for having an endless war.
It has all seriously gone to hell.
does that mean US will have to give more to use bases across europe?
Most deals through nato would be canceled. That means US would have make new bilateral deals with each nation in particular.
I guess he gonna hurt his own country because his ego was hurt?
It’s nice to see Trump is finding ways to make Putin’s wishes come true. Well, not wishes… Putin’s orders to Trump. Same difference.
He’s been considering this for 10 years. It’s not new, it’s just new that he said it again.
Great so lets get the timeline:
Mad at NATO for Ukraine
Mad at NATO for not spending enough
Threatens to abandon NATO
Starts war with Iran
Wins War (trademark)
Hasn’t won war so asks for help
Help is denied since we started it
Mad that others wont help him win the won war
Moves goal from regime change to open strait (which was open before we bombed them)
Says we will pull out even if the strait isn’t opened
Now threatens to pull out of NATO because of our own self-made war
It’s surrealistic to watch the US destroy itself because no one has the stones to remove the cause if its destruction.Â
I have some questions about Section 1250A of the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act.
Trump threatening to leave NATO is just a day ending in Y.
By now it feels different though, the anti-NATO rhetoric from the US administration is reaching a fever pitch. I am aware that the president does not have the authority to unilaterally withdraw from NATO, explicitly restricted by the provision mentioned above.
But as we say in my country: Paper is patient. By now, due to this administration’s disregard for law and order and its explicit and premeditated (Project 2024) undermining of the separation of powers in the USA, I have doubts that the provision mentioned above will actually do anything to stop Trump from doing what he threatens he will do.
So I need somebody who is more plugged into US politics and news to answer a few questions for me:
Reading about it it was unclear to me how Section 1250A of the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act actually enforces itself. It mentions “withholding funds for a withdrawal” but I don’t see how that would prevent anything. How does Section 1250A actually enforce itself?
If the president decided to withdraw from NATO without congressional approval, what would congress be able to do about it and would it take those steps if they exist?
If the supreme court got involved and tried to block a withdrawal from NATO, how would such a verdict be enforced? (Especially in the context of the supreme court decision Trump v United States giving the president the ability to act with complete impunity.)
I apologise for my typos, I’m typing this on a touch screen and I am using a simplified keyboard because they put AI in everything now.
Greetings from a country that is supposedly an ally of the United States.
How convenient for putin. trump makes up an absolutely nonsense, BS excuse to try to get the US out of NATO. Exactly what putin wants. Sickening.
>The U.S. president, a long-time critic of the alliance, went on to call NATO a “paper tiger” and said Russian President Vladimir Putin shares that opinion.
trump is openly declaring that he and putin share the same opinion. He’s not even trying to hide the fact that he’s working with putin.
He´s like a fucking 5 year old.
Well, he was acting adversarial long ago. Countries have been moving away from the USA ever since they started threatening Canada and Greenland.
Btw, Denmark actually sent soldiers to Greenland to mine airstrips there to defend themselves from a possible American invasion.
Why your supposed ‘allies’ are training to fight you off, they’re not going to lose too much sleep with you leaving the club.
I feel like this has been his agenda all along. That’s why the irrational threats towards taking Canada and Greenland, pointless war with Iran to have reason to distance themselves from NATO and draw closer with Russia.
Once he gets out of NATO and significantly weaken it, Russia will go for Baltic States and he will go for Greenland or Canada and whatever else this sick twisted fuck has on his mind.
I hope I’m wrong, but it doesn’t look good at all. He already made his “Board of Peace” with similar minded nations which he will rename “Board of War” like he did with Ministry of Defense and proclaim that it’s time to take what Murica rightfully should own.
He wants to attack Greenland and Canada. This way he can.
Canadians know that this is his long game. We are preparing as much as we can.
It’s a shame that Republicans are simping for this clown. Everything this clown does is anti-American values and downright illegal. His strategy is “do whatever I want because it’ll be too late to stop me when the courts say no”
And, hey folks, Apple, Google, Microsoft, and NVIDIA “donated” towards that ballroom construction that everybody knew wasn’t legal to begin with
If not Russian asset, why Russian asset shaped?
Is the US prepared to lose bases like RAF Lakenheath, Ramstein, Aviano, Incirlik, Pituffik and Diageo Garcia? Can the US build aircraft carriers and logistics ships fast enough to fill that gap in force projection capability?
Is the US prepared to have a huge radar gap over the Arctic from the Yukon, east to Russia?
Why would NATO countries keep playing ball with the US if the US is no longer in NATO?
IMHO, take Hungary with you. Free up NATO to assist Ukraine more.
The next US President is going to have their hands full rebuilding foreign relations.
Russia owns Trump
…because wirhdrawing from a defensive alliance right at peak “every other country on Earth hates you” is a power move.
Or something.
As an American, I should say I’m shocked and appalled at this, but……..unfortunately I’m not. The man wants it to go his way and is not happy when it doesn’t. He doesn’t understand the meaning of no, and likes to surround himself with both yes men and powerful people, which includes, unfortunately, strongmen who rule countries with an iron fist.
He was ordered to leave NATO by Putin. He’s just being a good employee
Good, a defensive pact should not contain a member who actively threatens its other members with military force and annexation. We’ll welcome the US back after it de-Nazifies and proves that it’s not going to invade the world in a tantrum of 21st century Manifest Destiny
And again Russia is somehow benefitting
Donald Trump is the biggest piece of shit in the entire world.