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  1. From the article:

    In a letter sent Thursday to Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, the lawmakers say that because VPNs obscure a user’s true location, and because intelligence agencies presume that communications of unknown origin are foreign, Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law.
    Several federal agencies, including the FBI, the National Security Agency, and the Federal Trade Commission, have recommended that consumers use VPNs to protect their privacy. But following that advice may inadvertently cost Americans the very protections they’re seeking.
    The letter was signed by members of the Democratic Party’s progressive flank: Senators Ron Wyden, Elizabeth Warren, Edward Markey, and Alex Padilla, along with Representatives Pramila Jayapal and Sara Jacobs.

  2. needmoresynths on

    Anyone that thinks otherwise hasn’t been paying attention. Snowden’s whistleblowing was over a decade ago and the NSA has only gotten more powerful since then.

  3. That’s insane. “Hey citizens, we told you to use VPNs for privacy but now you’re at risk so please trust us your government to afford you privacy which you didn’t have enough of which is why we recommended VPNs in the first place.”

  4. RedisaPsyop5647 on

    As if they already don’t have full access to get into every single person’s search history already, VPN or not.

  5. FeijoaMilkshake on

    The introduction of the Patriot Act that followed with the creation of DHS fucked up every good thing people used to have and enjoy.

  6. Mission-Shopping-615 on

    A vpn hosted in the US, which all US corporations use for remote work, would not show up to the cia as unknown or foreign, it’s no different then you visiting a website hosted by the vpn, you’re still connected to a US based IP address

    But I’m guessing this isn’t actually about that, it’s about raising awareness that the cia is spying on us citizens and making up fake reasons

  7. Gunna waste all those resources to find out I’m using a vpn to…
    *checks notes*… watch anime.

  8. magicspider8 on

    Unless they have a listening endpoint on all vpn, not sure how they will surveillance vpn since, you know, is a virtual private network.

  9. NeverInsightful on

    This one is actually really complex.

    So if we don’t use a VPN, and we’re on a US network, then the government can’t surveil us without a warrant. However, every corporation can log all out data and then sell it to the government anyways if I under right?

    If you use a VPN, then you’re presumed to be foreign? Or just a VPN which places your source IP outside the US?

    I can see how the DOJ/intelligence could argue for all VPN activity. After all, they don’t want a hostile government routing their traffic through surfshark and suddenly that data is untouchable to them.

    What about iCloud private browsing? How does Intel classify that? Not so much a VPN but a network of proxies.

    I know some/many will disagree with me but with my limited context, I’d almost rather continue using a VPN, it’s less impactful to me currently that the government logs it alone than company logging my data, sharing and selling to each other and offering for sale to the government anyways.

  10. Big-Honeydew-961 on

    Everyone needs to buy a VPN subscription, stream Elmo letter of the day intro songs, ”every sperm is sacred,” the mayonnaise video from How it’s Made, pimple popping videos, bot fly removal  videos, etc 24/7 for weeks.  Like just make it dumb.  

    Because this is dumb

  11. It’s all propaganda to scare those who don’t know proper VPN habits. Ones that don’t carry logs, use ram based servers, get audited, and are run outside of the US. Get monitored all you want, there’s nothing they’ll be able to view or truly care about unless you’re Osama. Plus they’re already monitoring you anyway if you have any social media with your pii. 

  12. Might as well surveil the entire population at that point because every company and state/local government in the country with remote connections is using VPNs.

  13. Super_Assistant_2998 on

    They’re going to find out that red states banning porn have a LOT of people using VPNs to watch porn.

  14. Happy to live in a free country that has privacy.

    It’s amazing how many Americans think their country is the most free in the world when in reality they are getting exploited.

  15. This probably means VPNs are messing with their surveillance and they want people to stop

  16. andytagonist on

    So they’re going to be watching and note 2 things:
    1. I masturbate.
    2. I live in texas.

  17. Acceptable_Boss_7468 on

    You better let us spy on you without a VPN or we’re going to spy on you because you have a VPN!