Honestly, raising a child today is insanely expensive and mentally demanding. It’s not surprising people are choosing stability first, even if it means having fewer kids or none at all.Nowdays everything is getting costly
Nepridiprav16 on
Droping from 1.83 fertility rate in 2021, to 1.37 now is drastic drop.
What happened.. people defering starting families because of living costs and crisis fatigue?
Vedagi_ on
So a few reasons:
1. People cannot afford to build a house
2. People can live only on rents
3. People cannot find or afford rent (Airbnb, not enough housing, etc. – Especially in Prague)
4. Czechia has second worst mental health situation in Europe right after Ukraine (for young people mainly) PS: Our country is not in war.
5. Saleries dont match costs.
6. Raising more then one childern with two people and avg. salery is very hard
7. More old people then young (thus they vote for parties who manipul- prioritize older over young, and so on)
etc. etc.
I also noticed that educated forginers are often paid better then locals with the same ed. (from what i saw, tho it may just look like it to me idk, it’s just hilarius to see from time to time a forginer on r/Prague “Is my [3x higher salery then avg.] good enough to live?” kind of posts)
The situation for young people is not good + populist gov. voted in by old population which outnumbers younger.
I’m an young adult, and due to our demographic crisis, politics, costs of living, saleries, etc. my current plan is to finish ed. and move out to western europe. (+ learning langauges, etc. which i like as a hobby anyway)
I dont see a reason why to stay:
– i’m a young person who is western-oriented (Czechia is doing well in this case, but still lacks behind more
western countries + less pro-EU, NATO, etc.)
– bisexual (saying bcs Czechia is kinda 30y in the past which such stuff)
– old/undecuated people beside being easily manipulated to vote for parties which will not improve the life of younger really
– due to the demographic crisis i would have to work more on old people (who are dicks often to young
besides)
– Higher saleries
– I speak English and can learn new languages
– Housing crisis/high rents (and related stuff)
etc.
SolivagantWalker on
Happens to everyone…It is what it is. Soon MENA will replace us .
Organic_Contract_172 on
People simply dont want em
captainmycaptn on
The world is overpopulated. It’s natural that we self limit when capacity is maxed. It’s time to accept we can’t grow forever. Life will be tough soon.
Organized-Konfusion on
Mammals (and many vertebrates) often experience reduced reproduction when afraid or highly stressed. Fear triggers stress hormones that directly hinder reproductive performance, suppressing mating behavior, causing lower conception rates, and sometimes leading to reproductive failure, as stress often prioritizes survival over breeding.
Any-Original-6113 on
Bad news
KakaovyRohlicek on
In addition to the economic and political reasons already mentioned, the lower birth rate between roughly 1995 and 2005 is also to blame. So there are now fewer young adults who are able to have children.
Ironically, my younger brother, who has a child, falls into this group, while I, being a few years older and part of a larger generation, am childless.
GremlinX_ll on
Rookie numbers
LindemannO on
Why would I want to raise a child when I’m only *just* able to afford living for myself and my partner?
IvanStarokapustin on
Czech guys: Hey babe, can I borrow some cash. I lost a load on the Champions League bet and then me and Jiri went down the bar and got loaded.
By the way, good time to talk about kids?
mezz1945 on
Man i wonder what makes people make children again. We should install policies so that houses and apartments get even more expensive and nothing gets built. And we should never increase pay of workers ever. We should import more economic migrants for low paying jobs so that there are no free apartments. Surely all this help the last few people who still want children.
Upbeat_Platypus1833 on
It’s not a mystery. Cost, needing two incomes to survive.
Thunder_Beam on
Cue comments of people upvoted to 1K saying “it’s the economy, housing, etc.” like every single other thread just to not accept the more credible and easy answer of people simply not wanting to have children and to spend the time investment required to raise them
poorat8686 on
Oh man you’ve got doomers are hot and bothered now. I’m seeing a doomercirclejerk greatest hits in the comment section!
Honestly it’s fine and a natural reaction to the living conditions. People aren’t just coincidentally not having kids, they’re being logical and you ordinarily would expect this reaction to decreased resources. When people complain about “population collapse” they’re just whining that nobody is going to pay for their lifestyle as they age.
It affects nobody young in any way but positively if you don’t let old fucks vote to ethnically genocide their own children to bail out poorly managed pensions.
digiorno on
Maybe capitalism was a mistake if you wanted to provide for society. It’s great at concentrating wealth for a few people that comes at the cost to everyone else…
LuciusMiximus on
A few years ago, the Polish government commissioned a report on what Czechia’s doing right about the birth rate. It started collapsing immediately afterwards.
Which was predictable: Czechia has experienced ups and downs driven by rapid Westernization of society resulting in postponement of births combined with a downward trend in completed fertility consistent with the entire Eastern Europe.
Expect the region to fall into NIMBY pensioner populism making things even worse. Without the capital, knowledge, industry, and brands sustaining Western Europe right now.
_Djkh_ on
It’s due to our collective pension systems. It encourages free riding.
captainmycaptn on
The world is overpopulated. It’s natural that we self limit when capacity is maxed. It’s time to accept we can’t grow forever. Life will be tough soon.
MaleficentVehicle705 on
What happened in 1785?
Ok_Wrangler_9569 on
I’m Czech and I’m not planning to have any kids. To hell with this system and humans altogether. I’ll gladly watch it all fall apart.
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i wonder why..
Honestly, raising a child today is insanely expensive and mentally demanding. It’s not surprising people are choosing stability first, even if it means having fewer kids or none at all.Nowdays everything is getting costly
Droping from 1.83 fertility rate in 2021, to 1.37 now is drastic drop.
What happened.. people defering starting families because of living costs and crisis fatigue?
So a few reasons:
1. People cannot afford to build a house
2. People can live only on rents
3. People cannot find or afford rent (Airbnb, not enough housing, etc. – Especially in Prague)
4. Czechia has second worst mental health situation in Europe right after Ukraine (for young people mainly) PS: Our country is not in war.
5. Saleries dont match costs.
6. Raising more then one childern with two people and avg. salery is very hard
7. More old people then young (thus they vote for parties who manipul- prioritize older over young, and so on)
etc. etc.
I also noticed that educated forginers are often paid better then locals with the same ed. (from what i saw, tho it may just look like it to me idk, it’s just hilarius to see from time to time a forginer on r/Prague “Is my [3x higher salery then avg.] good enough to live?” kind of posts)
The situation for young people is not good + populist gov. voted in by old population which outnumbers younger.
I’m an young adult, and due to our demographic crisis, politics, costs of living, saleries, etc. my current plan is to finish ed. and move out to western europe. (+ learning langauges, etc. which i like as a hobby anyway)
I dont see a reason why to stay:
– i’m a young person who is western-oriented (Czechia is doing well in this case, but still lacks behind more
western countries + less pro-EU, NATO, etc.)
– bisexual (saying bcs Czechia is kinda 30y in the past which such stuff)
– old/undecuated people beside being easily manipulated to vote for parties which will not improve the life of younger really
– due to the demographic crisis i would have to work more on old people (who are dicks often to young
besides)
– Higher saleries
– I speak English and can learn new languages
– Housing crisis/high rents (and related stuff)
etc.
Happens to everyone…It is what it is. Soon MENA will replace us .
People simply dont want em
The world is overpopulated. It’s natural that we self limit when capacity is maxed. It’s time to accept we can’t grow forever. Life will be tough soon.
Mammals (and many vertebrates) often experience reduced reproduction when afraid or highly stressed. Fear triggers stress hormones that directly hinder reproductive performance, suppressing mating behavior, causing lower conception rates, and sometimes leading to reproductive failure, as stress often prioritizes survival over breeding.
Bad news
In addition to the economic and political reasons already mentioned, the lower birth rate between roughly 1995 and 2005 is also to blame. So there are now fewer young adults who are able to have children.
Ironically, my younger brother, who has a child, falls into this group, while I, being a few years older and part of a larger generation, am childless.
Rookie numbers
Why would I want to raise a child when I’m only *just* able to afford living for myself and my partner?
Czech guys: Hey babe, can I borrow some cash. I lost a load on the Champions League bet and then me and Jiri went down the bar and got loaded.
By the way, good time to talk about kids?
Man i wonder what makes people make children again. We should install policies so that houses and apartments get even more expensive and nothing gets built. And we should never increase pay of workers ever. We should import more economic migrants for low paying jobs so that there are no free apartments. Surely all this help the last few people who still want children.
It’s not a mystery. Cost, needing two incomes to survive.
Cue comments of people upvoted to 1K saying “it’s the economy, housing, etc.” like every single other thread just to not accept the more credible and easy answer of people simply not wanting to have children and to spend the time investment required to raise them
Oh man you’ve got doomers are hot and bothered now. I’m seeing a doomercirclejerk greatest hits in the comment section!
Honestly it’s fine and a natural reaction to the living conditions. People aren’t just coincidentally not having kids, they’re being logical and you ordinarily would expect this reaction to decreased resources. When people complain about “population collapse” they’re just whining that nobody is going to pay for their lifestyle as they age.
It affects nobody young in any way but positively if you don’t let old fucks vote to ethnically genocide their own children to bail out poorly managed pensions.
Maybe capitalism was a mistake if you wanted to provide for society. It’s great at concentrating wealth for a few people that comes at the cost to everyone else…
A few years ago, the Polish government commissioned a report on what Czechia’s doing right about the birth rate. It started collapsing immediately afterwards.
Which was predictable: Czechia has experienced ups and downs driven by rapid Westernization of society resulting in postponement of births combined with a downward trend in completed fertility consistent with the entire Eastern Europe.
Expect the region to fall into NIMBY pensioner populism making things even worse. Without the capital, knowledge, industry, and brands sustaining Western Europe right now.
It’s due to our collective pension systems. It encourages free riding.
The world is overpopulated. It’s natural that we self limit when capacity is maxed. It’s time to accept we can’t grow forever. Life will be tough soon.
What happened in 1785?
I’m Czech and I’m not planning to have any kids. To hell with this system and humans altogether. I’ll gladly watch it all fall apart.
What are demographers going to do in the future?