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  1. explain_that_shit on

    Yeah this is the problem I have with the types that harp on about immigration. Given the processes already in place in this country, you can only conclude that people who vaguely say they want tighter immigration controls just want more racist immigration controls or a complete zeroing of immigration – they try to motte and bailey in arguments by saying they just want moderate reform, but the moderate reforms are already in, leaving only those extreme reforms they claim not to want. Then they just say they don’t know about the policies already in place and the whole conversation becomes pointless.

    Anti-immigrants and anti-information types – the venn diagram is a circle.

  2. More like “We need to appear anti-mass immigration whilst still bringing in as much cheap labor as we can, in order to keep eroding and riding the backs of the working class”

  3. Oh we’re doing strawmans? Here’s mine.

    “we need better more strict verification on who comes into the country, and stronger laws around making sure they follow the terms of their visa”

    “you’re a racist”.

  4. At this stage it’s (comparatively) more believeable that Angus Taylor is somehow a long game Labor Party sleeper agent than that he actually wants the Liberals to win an election or form any sort of credible opposition.

    I would grudgingly understand what they’ve been doing since Mr Potato Head if it actually worked, but it doesn’t and won’t. At all.