ah yes, the rights of the criminal are what we care about, not the rights of the victims
SigmaHouse28 on
Justice? Who asks for justice. We make our own justice.
Firestorm238 on
After reading the article this doesn’t strike me as an unreasonable judgment. It’s a very sad situation, but there’s no evidence that suggests that the driver did anything criminal.
Specific-Answer3590 on
Pathetic.
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monotious on
Not sure what the article wants to say. I am sorry for the terrible loss of lives, but a traffic accident doesn’t automatically mean someone is criminally responsible.
Is there anything we know about this accident and Baglieri’s involvement in it that should have lead the judge to not dismiss the case? I don’t think I see any in the article or otherwise know any details that leads me to conclude that Justice Mark Edwards’ ruling is wrong.
Jatmahl on
>Ontario Superior Court of Justice said in his ruling he was not satisfied that the Crown had proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused was guilty.
3 dead bodies looks guilty to me…
ForsakenRhubarbPie on
Damn – a guy accidentally runs a red light (with legitimate potential reasons for it happening), wasn’t speeding or intoxicated. Tragic accident.
Queue Reddit thread talking about invaders from other countries.
stanxv on
I’m amazed the judge didn’t go on to explain that the driver was THE REAL VICTIM in all of this.
ProfessionAny183 on
Isn’t this still manslaughter?
RDMercerJunior on
“[Judge]Edwards noted that Baglieri was not intoxicated or speeding and he faced three possible distractions of sun glare, a driver lingering in his blind spot and emergency flashing lights of vehicles on the opposite side of the intersection.
“These distractions may explain why Mr. Baglieri missed the red light and caused him to tell his employer: ‘I thought the light was green,'” Edwards says in his ruling.
“Other reasonable drivers presented with the exact same circumstances may have responded differently but the law does not criminalize conduct because a driver made a terrible mistake,” he continues.
“What happened on Oct. 12, 2022, was a tragedy for the victims and their families. It was a tragedy that was without any doubt the fault of Mr. Baglieri.” ”
For any racists jumping to conclusions, the brown people are the ones who were killed.
For those (possibly bots) complaining about criminals, recognize that is the point.; no criminal action was found.
toilet_for_shrek on
>Pateeran was a student at Wilfrid Laurier University and wanted to be a police officer. He died on his birthday. Neluxsana was a student at George Brown College and wanted to be a nurse.
That’s so sad. I’m shocked too, but surely the driver is going to face some consequences?
ArtisticStatement912 on
Reminds me of the dude who didn’t follow a stop sign and ended up killing school kids. Oh he was found guilty alright. So much guilty that the entire nation rallied against him and booed him and his family out of the country. Wondering what was so different in two cases. Hmm..
Dependent_Rip3076 on
The best we can hope for I guess is that man feeling incredibly guilty for the rest of his life
NeverFinishWhatIStar on
The difference in comments between this case and the Humboldt accident hmm I wonder whats different
T-14Hyperdrive on
Damn so I can just say someone was in my blind spot and run red lights now? So stupid
HunrMoon on
This sub posts these articles almost as commonly as on r/conservative. Some of you guys (not everyone) need to get a grip.
IndecentlyBrilliant on
The sun glare issue is an interesting one, and probably has caused a lot of accidents. I knew a guy in collage who was going over a hill in winter, get blinded by the sun, and ran into cars in an intersection right at the top of it before he could stop. Broke his arm and was waiting with a cop who arrived a different way and was waiting for other cops and the ambulance to arrive, and they both witnessed a cop come over the hill and basically do the same thing nearly crashing. Apparently the cop put in a word for the kid saying that hill/intersection was dangerous that time of day and the cause of the accident.
Icy_Queen_222 on
Runs a red light and they say it’s a “terrible mistake.” He killed people it’s a HUGE life changing he f**ked up mistake. Unreal 🤬.
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ah yes, the rights of the criminal are what we care about, not the rights of the victims
Justice? Who asks for justice. We make our own justice.
After reading the article this doesn’t strike me as an unreasonable judgment. It’s a very sad situation, but there’s no evidence that suggests that the driver did anything criminal.
Pathetic.
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Not sure what the article wants to say. I am sorry for the terrible loss of lives, but a traffic accident doesn’t automatically mean someone is criminally responsible.
Is there anything we know about this accident and Baglieri’s involvement in it that should have lead the judge to not dismiss the case? I don’t think I see any in the article or otherwise know any details that leads me to conclude that Justice Mark Edwards’ ruling is wrong.
>Ontario Superior Court of Justice said in his ruling he was not satisfied that the Crown had proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused was guilty.
3 dead bodies looks guilty to me…
Damn – a guy accidentally runs a red light (with legitimate potential reasons for it happening), wasn’t speeding or intoxicated. Tragic accident.
Queue Reddit thread talking about invaders from other countries.
I’m amazed the judge didn’t go on to explain that the driver was THE REAL VICTIM in all of this.
Isn’t this still manslaughter?
“[Judge]Edwards noted that Baglieri was not intoxicated or speeding and he faced three possible distractions of sun glare, a driver lingering in his blind spot and emergency flashing lights of vehicles on the opposite side of the intersection.
“These distractions may explain why Mr. Baglieri missed the red light and caused him to tell his employer: ‘I thought the light was green,'” Edwards says in his ruling.
“Other reasonable drivers presented with the exact same circumstances may have responded differently but the law does not criminalize conduct because a driver made a terrible mistake,” he continues.
“What happened on Oct. 12, 2022, was a tragedy for the victims and their families. It was a tragedy that was without any doubt the fault of Mr. Baglieri.” ”
For any racists jumping to conclusions, the brown people are the ones who were killed.
For those (possibly bots) complaining about criminals, recognize that is the point.; no criminal action was found.
>Pateeran was a student at Wilfrid Laurier University and wanted to be a police officer. He died on his birthday. Neluxsana was a student at George Brown College and wanted to be a nurse.
That’s so sad. I’m shocked too, but surely the driver is going to face some consequences?
Reminds me of the dude who didn’t follow a stop sign and ended up killing school kids. Oh he was found guilty alright. So much guilty that the entire nation rallied against him and booed him and his family out of the country. Wondering what was so different in two cases. Hmm..
The best we can hope for I guess is that man feeling incredibly guilty for the rest of his life
The difference in comments between this case and the Humboldt accident hmm I wonder whats different
Damn so I can just say someone was in my blind spot and run red lights now? So stupid
This sub posts these articles almost as commonly as on r/conservative. Some of you guys (not everyone) need to get a grip.
The sun glare issue is an interesting one, and probably has caused a lot of accidents. I knew a guy in collage who was going over a hill in winter, get blinded by the sun, and ran into cars in an intersection right at the top of it before he could stop. Broke his arm and was waiting with a cop who arrived a different way and was waiting for other cops and the ambulance to arrive, and they both witnessed a cop come over the hill and basically do the same thing nearly crashing. Apparently the cop put in a word for the kid saying that hill/intersection was dangerous that time of day and the cause of the accident.
Runs a red light and they say it’s a “terrible mistake.” He killed people it’s a HUGE life changing he f**ked up mistake. Unreal 🤬.