crazy how much of Africa was colonised for less than 75 years, yet it has been permanently altered
lugdunum_burdigala on
I suppose it only means the European rule of the modern era, because the Roman empire ruled some of these countries for a long time.
winfryd on
Well, this map is really wrong. Not only are the years wrong, but it completetly forgets the Roman Empire and the Macedonian Empire, you could also debatably include the Ptolemaic Kingdom in Egypt.
LollisGunsBikesTits on
West europe*
another-rainy-day on
A lot of North Africa should have a different color, on account of the Roman Empire.
Xonthelon on
With how it is phrased the numbers for North Africa should be considerably higher. Romans, Greeks and Ottomans should also count
Ill-Stretch-1627 on
This map is complete BS.
esperstrazza on
I take it the mapper, this Aofen, is only considering european conquests after the 1500’s and isn’t considering the Ottomans as europeans (which is correct geographically, but you’re lying to yourself if you think they weren’t colonizers of the same breed as the others)
L1u-K-as on
Why not include Rome? Or Macedonia?
kamwitsta on
Wow, that’s way less than all this talk about colonialism makes you think.
WolfetoneRebel on
Liberia was under European rule?
ToddPundley on
Wouldn’t Liberia technically have been 0 years?
Ill-Stretch-1627 on
Idk what counts as “European Rule”, but if its people of European descent controlling territory, then South Africa alone puts this whole map into question. Considering apartheid ended ~95, and the the Union of SA was formed in 1910, that alone has the whole South African territory under European rule for almost 100 years (so there should be no green portions on the map on SA territory). Remember also that Europeans already controlled a large chunk of South African territory for centuries before that.
Robcobes on
The first European colony in South Africa was founded in the 1650’s. South Africa gained it’s independance in the 1960’s.
The map doesn’t reflect this.
Aaron696 on
Mozambique and especially Angola are probably the best current examples of sub-Saharan African societies in which European colonial languages (in this case Portuguese) have become highly nativized. A growing number of urban Angolans are monolingual in Portuguese and have abandoned their native Bantu languages. And it is self-fulfilling now, so in a couple more centuries Angola’s linguistic landscape will probably look a lot like today’s Brazil, assuming borders remain unchanged.
Gabon is also fairly far along in its transition to French, and so is Ivory Coast but to a lesser extent. I expect in the future we’ll see drastic linguistic transitions in many of these countries where European languages or creoles have become entrenched in cities.
Ghana might be a bit of an exception because so much of the country speaks Akan so there’s not as much of a critical need to switch to English to speak across ethnic groups. English still has way more prestige though, so it might still eventually win out if Akan isn’t prioritized.
HaggisPope on
I think Kenya is the wrong colour. Unless the British Empire only got a tiny bit of the coast which can’t be seenÂ
LittleAppleRose on
Wow, this is actually really eye-opening! I never realized how long some areas were under European rule. Makes you think, for sure.
CrocByBlood_NoTears on
How’s Angola in the green? Didn’t they get their independence in the 70s? After nearly 500 years of Portuguese rule
Royal-Strawberry-601 on
How about the conquest of this area by the Ottomans (capital in Europe)? The Greek? The Macedonians? The Romans?
happybaby00 on
Most africa were under european rule until the 60s but were colonised mostly in 1895.
Zimbabwe, Namibia and South Africa were under european rule until 1980-1994.
This map isnt accurate
HistoricalAbies293 on
Ethiopia would only be about four years iirc. 1937-1941?
Could be 1934-1941 so up to seven, I forget the dates
memelordrs on
Hold up. The majority basically had a couple of decades of European rule. And on the continent of that size it’s probably like in the middle ages when technically the king is your boss but you can’t remember when was the last time someone came to see what you were actually doing.
sovietarmyfan on
Kind of wild that Algeria was under French rule for such a very long time and it was so close to the French mainland, yet we see very few French people in Algeria these days. Compared to South Africa where a lot of white people moved to during the colonization era.
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crazy how much of Africa was colonised for less than 75 years, yet it has been permanently altered
I suppose it only means the European rule of the modern era, because the Roman empire ruled some of these countries for a long time.
Well, this map is really wrong. Not only are the years wrong, but it completetly forgets the Roman Empire and the Macedonian Empire, you could also debatably include the Ptolemaic Kingdom in Egypt.
West europe*
A lot of North Africa should have a different color, on account of the Roman Empire.
With how it is phrased the numbers for North Africa should be considerably higher. Romans, Greeks and Ottomans should also count
This map is complete BS.
I take it the mapper, this Aofen, is only considering european conquests after the 1500’s and isn’t considering the Ottomans as europeans (which is correct geographically, but you’re lying to yourself if you think they weren’t colonizers of the same breed as the others)
Why not include Rome? Or Macedonia?
Wow, that’s way less than all this talk about colonialism makes you think.
Liberia was under European rule?
Wouldn’t Liberia technically have been 0 years?
Idk what counts as “European Rule”, but if its people of European descent controlling territory, then South Africa alone puts this whole map into question. Considering apartheid ended ~95, and the the Union of SA was formed in 1910, that alone has the whole South African territory under European rule for almost 100 years (so there should be no green portions on the map on SA territory). Remember also that Europeans already controlled a large chunk of South African territory for centuries before that.
The first European colony in South Africa was founded in the 1650’s. South Africa gained it’s independance in the 1960’s.
The map doesn’t reflect this.
Mozambique and especially Angola are probably the best current examples of sub-Saharan African societies in which European colonial languages (in this case Portuguese) have become highly nativized. A growing number of urban Angolans are monolingual in Portuguese and have abandoned their native Bantu languages. And it is self-fulfilling now, so in a couple more centuries Angola’s linguistic landscape will probably look a lot like today’s Brazil, assuming borders remain unchanged.
Gabon is also fairly far along in its transition to French, and so is Ivory Coast but to a lesser extent. I expect in the future we’ll see drastic linguistic transitions in many of these countries where European languages or creoles have become entrenched in cities.
Ghana might be a bit of an exception because so much of the country speaks Akan so there’s not as much of a critical need to switch to English to speak across ethnic groups. English still has way more prestige though, so it might still eventually win out if Akan isn’t prioritized.
I think Kenya is the wrong colour. Unless the British Empire only got a tiny bit of the coast which can’t be seenÂ
Wow, this is actually really eye-opening! I never realized how long some areas were under European rule. Makes you think, for sure.
How’s Angola in the green? Didn’t they get their independence in the 70s? After nearly 500 years of Portuguese rule
How about the conquest of this area by the Ottomans (capital in Europe)? The Greek? The Macedonians? The Romans?
Most africa were under european rule until the 60s but were colonised mostly in 1895.
Zimbabwe, Namibia and South Africa were under european rule until 1980-1994.
This map isnt accurate
Ethiopia would only be about four years iirc. 1937-1941?
Could be 1934-1941 so up to seven, I forget the dates
Hold up. The majority basically had a couple of decades of European rule. And on the continent of that size it’s probably like in the middle ages when technically the king is your boss but you can’t remember when was the last time someone came to see what you were actually doing.
Kind of wild that Algeria was under French rule for such a very long time and it was so close to the French mainland, yet we see very few French people in Algeria these days. Compared to South Africa where a lot of white people moved to during the colonization era.
Why this feels like moroccan propaganda?
This map isnt accurate, like at all