We can’t even build a children’s hospital- can you imagine the apocalypse of building something nuclear? ☢️
qwerty_1965 on
Haha! I look forward to seeing a crusty convoy heading to Carnsore Point for a restaging of the 1979 anti nuclear protest.
TIL from Wikipedia
“The British and Irish Communist Organisation, who believed nuclear power was necessary to achieve socialism in Ireland, picketed the first concert”
SeanB2003 on
Might as well, it’s not the thing stopping nuclear here anyway. That’s economics and engineering.
phatteeth on
I’m all on for nuclear power, but not a chance would I want to see the Irish government with there civic servants build one, let alone have their buddies run it. We are absolutely shite at building infrastructure and running any form of state body. We have one of the highest GDP but the return we get from all those taxes is so fucking bad it’s beyond a joke.
sureyouknowurself on
Makes sense. Weird we have a law against it.
SeriesDowntown5947 on
Goid idea. By all accounts mini nuclear plants are been widely implemented in sweden etc. They could be ideal to power data centers which need consistency in power.
andubhadh on
After all the anti-nuke protests there in County Wexford,
Wind farms off the west coast to capitalise on a resource we have in abundance coupled with importing power from overseas nuclear power plants in places like France would make more sense to me.
Solar on every roof.
We are too small a country to need to run our own nuclear power plant.
Also, good luck getting any NIMBY to allow one to be built near them.
snazzydesign on
I’ve a feeling they’d employ Homer Simpson as Nuclear Safety Officer ☢️
AAALOKEN on
Good. It’s about time a couple mini reactors like in Canada would do wonders
BadgerBitter5613 on
The TD should clarify if he would be happy for it to be built un his constituency
killianm97 on
There is such an intense lobbying push for nuclear over the past few years, when the economic reality is that renewables are way cheaper and easier.
The only concern with exclusive focus on wind and solar is that it’s not always sunny and windy, but there are pre-existing solutions for this – including more interconnectors between countries to create an integrated European energy grid, plus hydropower and pumped storage hydroelectricity.
skipdeedy on
Needs to happen. Not sure it’ll ever be economically viable here on this island but with the new modular tokamak reactors who knows.
phatteeth on
There’s just zero accountability in Ireland, that’s the worry if they did go ahead with it. I can just imagine the Nuclear power plant leaks toxic waste into the local river, the PAC or the O committee invites the CEO for questions but he/she declines and quits and that’s them washing their hands of any responsibility.
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SeriouslySuspect on
I’d have been delighted to see this 20 years ago but now I think there’s no point. Wind and solar have gotten so cheap and efficient that I think we’ve passed this by.
Turbulent-Tumor on
This is the best thing that can help improve Longford
Far_Advertising1005 on
The biggest threat to nuclear power here is a slightly windy day so this is a good isea
pauldavis1234 on
Irish nuclear reactor.
This has to be a joke.
We can even tell when busses are due on a bus stop display.
ferocious_bandana on
Where is a reactor sited?
Where does the fuel come from?
Where is the waste stored?
It won’t ever happen
Munky_13 on
My god, they’d do anything other than build renewables which are cheaper and will be built quicker than this. We don’t need this, numpties
tallandconfusedbrah on
Get a few mini reactors going
Accomplished-Ad-6639 on
So many Irish people won’t accept having wind turbines or even solar panels near them, so there is no chance anything nuclear will ever be built.
brentspar on
The fuss about that Chernobyl one seems to have died down alright. And the UK must surely have finished decommissioning Sellafield by now. Here’s a chart from Wikipedia showing the cost.
There is absolutely no argument that can show how nuclear power is cost efficient or will provide energy independence for the country.
Gold-Vacation-169 on
So even if we started this plan tomorrow, between site location, objections, court battles, EU court battles and building it’ll be 15 plus years.
We’re better off putting money and time into other options
VeraStrange on
Reactors cost a fortune at the best of times. BAM are going to make more money than they ever imagined. And the anti-nuclear lobby can rejoice in the knowledge that there won’t be a completed nuclear reactor in Ireland for decades.
_Oisin on
We can’t organise a bike stand right. There is zero hope of a nuclear project going well. We are baffled by the complexities of a children’s hospital never mind nuclear power.
leo2734 on
Won’t happen , even if the government wanted to , people wouldnt and that would be the end of it.
the-spin-master on
Why did this make me think of a meltdown scenario at Ireland’s first reactor and Minister for Nuclear Energy Helen McEntee standing outside the exclusion zone telling the public – “lessons will be learned.”
TheTealBandit on
Good, it’s about time Ireland joined the big boys. How can we maintain our neutrality without nukes?
JumpingJackFlashes on
We could build it in the Children’s hospital the rate thats going
bitreign33 on
As others have said, its the time horizon that is going to be the problem at this point.
With that taken into account though we will, or should, do _something_ with the turbines at Moneypoint and in a few years refits for SMRs to act as the thermal generator for old coal fired plants could be pretty viable. The turbines at Moneypoint itself are in fairly good nick and are, as I understand it, well above spec anyway.
Basil_Salty on
FF older voter will go nuts.
Not great timing either with the Chernobyl 40 year anniversary
Senior-Programmer355 on
if this country doesn’t want to be forever susceptible to external wars in order to have affordable energy it definitely should invest in nuclear, among other things.
peon47 on
Good. Fusion is coming. Maybe not soon, but we need to be ready.
Yuphrum on
Ireland’s likely best path is a mix.
Have wind as the backbone, with storage and interconnectors for flexibility. Nuclear could be a long term option if it becomes cost effective and fits the grid. Hydrogen can then act as a way to use excess energy, by converting surplus electricity into a storable fuel, instead of wasting it.
once-was-hill-folk on
There’s other concerns about nuclear power in Ireland and a good number of them (limited waste processing and/or storage capacity, importing fuel etc.) are bigger, but the one that springs to mind *first* for me is, does anyone but BAM *really* want a nuclear reactor that would almost certainly be built by BAM if there was *any* conceivable way to give them the tender?
mmoran92 on
Brilliant. Well done to Fianna Fáil — you’re getting my vote next time, and that’s coming from a Fine Gael man. This is critical to our future, and the latest nuculer power plant designs, with passive safety interventions i.e no electricity required to stop the reaction make them totally safe.
mrlinkwii on
not gonna happen , the planning system wont allow it
lovely-cans on
I’m not against nuclear but it’s stupid for Ireland to have it. We have a small population with a small area. It’s extremely expensive to start up , extremely expensive to run with an infinite cost for the waste with 20% downtime which becomes more of a problem when we start depending on it for our base loads. I work in material inspection and it doesn’t use the same materials as a normal power plant, and require exotic materials we’d have to start sourcing and then finding inspectors is a nightmare. As one of those you’d be getting €300 a day on mainland Europe in bed every night but when working “foreign” the price doubles.
We’d have to import practically every part of the expertise for a generation with the costs pushed onto the consumer while still having to import fuel from another country so we wouldn’t even have energy independence. Even energy from SMRs is more expensive than wind per MWh.
I worked in Edenderry and the Serbian welders were complaining about the health and safety there so there’d need to be massive change in mentality as well.
We have so much wind and water let’s just utilise it and become world leaders in that and pave our own paths rather than looking at what is best for entirely different countries and trying to mimic them.
BlearySteve on
Cool they should build it in Dublin.
Curraghboy1 on
100,000 items on the snag list for the new hospital. If BAM get the contract I’ll be emigrating to outside the fallout zone.
S_lyc0persicum on
Our lakes, rivers, and sea are poisoned from farmers spreading slurry, factories spewing effluent, and our councils pumping out untreated sewage.
But yeah, we can trust how they’ll handle nuclear waste.
cyberwicklow on
I’ve seen how national projects are handled in Ireland, the last thing we need is a nuclear plant built like the children’s hospital. At least let someone competent with experience build it.
Key-Lie-364 on
Realistically the wimps who gave into Geoghan will get nowhere with something as unpopular as nuclear.
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We can’t even build a children’s hospital- can you imagine the apocalypse of building something nuclear? ☢️
Haha! I look forward to seeing a crusty convoy heading to Carnsore Point for a restaging of the 1979 anti nuclear protest.
TIL from Wikipedia
“The British and Irish Communist Organisation, who believed nuclear power was necessary to achieve socialism in Ireland, picketed the first concert”
Might as well, it’s not the thing stopping nuclear here anyway. That’s economics and engineering.
I’m all on for nuclear power, but not a chance would I want to see the Irish government with there civic servants build one, let alone have their buddies run it. We are absolutely shite at building infrastructure and running any form of state body. We have one of the highest GDP but the return we get from all those taxes is so fucking bad it’s beyond a joke.
Makes sense. Weird we have a law against it.
Goid idea. By all accounts mini nuclear plants are been widely implemented in sweden etc. They could be ideal to power data centers which need consistency in power.
After all the anti-nuke protests there in County Wexford,
that’ll be a *sore point…*
https://preview.redd.it/m7dwprlgcxyg1.jpeg?width=305&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aee869088f3ae870b598dbd60c75036de70c6b7e
Wind farms off the west coast to capitalise on a resource we have in abundance coupled with importing power from overseas nuclear power plants in places like France would make more sense to me.
Solar on every roof.
We are too small a country to need to run our own nuclear power plant.
Also, good luck getting any NIMBY to allow one to be built near them.
I’ve a feeling they’d employ Homer Simpson as Nuclear Safety Officer ☢️
Good. It’s about time a couple mini reactors like in Canada would do wonders
The TD should clarify if he would be happy for it to be built un his constituency
There is such an intense lobbying push for nuclear over the past few years, when the economic reality is that renewables are way cheaper and easier.
The only concern with exclusive focus on wind and solar is that it’s not always sunny and windy, but there are pre-existing solutions for this – including more interconnectors between countries to create an integrated European energy grid, plus hydropower and pumped storage hydroelectricity.
Needs to happen. Not sure it’ll ever be economically viable here on this island but with the new modular tokamak reactors who knows.
There’s just zero accountability in Ireland, that’s the worry if they did go ahead with it. I can just imagine the Nuclear power plant leaks toxic waste into the local river, the PAC or the O committee invites the CEO for questions but he/she declines and quits and that’s them washing their hands of any responsibility.
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I’d have been delighted to see this 20 years ago but now I think there’s no point. Wind and solar have gotten so cheap and efficient that I think we’ve passed this by.
This is the best thing that can help improve Longford
The biggest threat to nuclear power here is a slightly windy day so this is a good isea
Irish nuclear reactor.
This has to be a joke.
We can even tell when busses are due on a bus stop display.
Where is a reactor sited?
Where does the fuel come from?
Where is the waste stored?
It won’t ever happen
My god, they’d do anything other than build renewables which are cheaper and will be built quicker than this. We don’t need this, numpties
Get a few mini reactors going
So many Irish people won’t accept having wind turbines or even solar panels near them, so there is no chance anything nuclear will ever be built.
The fuss about that Chernobyl one seems to have died down alright. And the UK must surely have finished decommissioning Sellafield by now. Here’s a chart from Wikipedia showing the cost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chart_forecast_costs_clean_up_Sellafield_vs_non-Sellafield_from_2005.jpg
There is absolutely no argument that can show how nuclear power is cost efficient or will provide energy independence for the country.
So even if we started this plan tomorrow, between site location, objections, court battles, EU court battles and building it’ll be 15 plus years.
We’re better off putting money and time into other options
Reactors cost a fortune at the best of times. BAM are going to make more money than they ever imagined. And the anti-nuclear lobby can rejoice in the knowledge that there won’t be a completed nuclear reactor in Ireland for decades.
We can’t organise a bike stand right. There is zero hope of a nuclear project going well. We are baffled by the complexities of a children’s hospital never mind nuclear power.
Won’t happen , even if the government wanted to , people wouldnt and that would be the end of it.
Why did this make me think of a meltdown scenario at Ireland’s first reactor and Minister for Nuclear Energy Helen McEntee standing outside the exclusion zone telling the public – “lessons will be learned.”
Good, it’s about time Ireland joined the big boys. How can we maintain our neutrality without nukes?
We could build it in the Children’s hospital the rate thats going
As others have said, its the time horizon that is going to be the problem at this point.
With that taken into account though we will, or should, do _something_ with the turbines at Moneypoint and in a few years refits for SMRs to act as the thermal generator for old coal fired plants could be pretty viable. The turbines at Moneypoint itself are in fairly good nick and are, as I understand it, well above spec anyway.
FF older voter will go nuts.
Not great timing either with the Chernobyl 40 year anniversary
if this country doesn’t want to be forever susceptible to external wars in order to have affordable energy it definitely should invest in nuclear, among other things.
Good. Fusion is coming. Maybe not soon, but we need to be ready.
Ireland’s likely best path is a mix.
Have wind as the backbone, with storage and interconnectors for flexibility. Nuclear could be a long term option if it becomes cost effective and fits the grid. Hydrogen can then act as a way to use excess energy, by converting surplus electricity into a storable fuel, instead of wasting it.
There’s other concerns about nuclear power in Ireland and a good number of them (limited waste processing and/or storage capacity, importing fuel etc.) are bigger, but the one that springs to mind *first* for me is, does anyone but BAM *really* want a nuclear reactor that would almost certainly be built by BAM if there was *any* conceivable way to give them the tender?
Brilliant. Well done to Fianna Fáil — you’re getting my vote next time, and that’s coming from a Fine Gael man. This is critical to our future, and the latest nuculer power plant designs, with passive safety interventions i.e no electricity required to stop the reaction make them totally safe.
not gonna happen , the planning system wont allow it
I’m not against nuclear but it’s stupid for Ireland to have it. We have a small population with a small area. It’s extremely expensive to start up , extremely expensive to run with an infinite cost for the waste with 20% downtime which becomes more of a problem when we start depending on it for our base loads. I work in material inspection and it doesn’t use the same materials as a normal power plant, and require exotic materials we’d have to start sourcing and then finding inspectors is a nightmare. As one of those you’d be getting €300 a day on mainland Europe in bed every night but when working “foreign” the price doubles.
We’d have to import practically every part of the expertise for a generation with the costs pushed onto the consumer while still having to import fuel from another country so we wouldn’t even have energy independence. Even energy from SMRs is more expensive than wind per MWh.
I worked in Edenderry and the Serbian welders were complaining about the health and safety there so there’d need to be massive change in mentality as well.
We have so much wind and water let’s just utilise it and become world leaders in that and pave our own paths rather than looking at what is best for entirely different countries and trying to mimic them.
Cool they should build it in Dublin.
100,000 items on the snag list for the new hospital. If BAM get the contract I’ll be emigrating to outside the fallout zone.
Our lakes, rivers, and sea are poisoned from farmers spreading slurry, factories spewing effluent, and our councils pumping out untreated sewage.
But yeah, we can trust how they’ll handle nuclear waste.
I’ve seen how national projects are handled in Ireland, the last thing we need is a nuclear plant built like the children’s hospital. At least let someone competent with experience build it.
Realistically the wimps who gave into Geoghan will get nowhere with something as unpopular as nuclear.