Immigration: More people believe it has a negative impact on society than positive, poll suggests

    https://news.sky.com/story/immigration-more-people-believe-it-has-a-negative-impact-on-society-than-positive-poll-suggests-13154613

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    1. That is a shame because the country would not work without immigration. It seems like most of our core health services rely to some degree on immigrants staffing them, among other public services. And many private enterprises are reliant on immigrant labour too.

      That isn’t to say that there are no drawbacks. But when the government is not managing immigration properly then there can be no rectification and mitigation of the drawbacks that occur.

    2. catdog5566cat on

      We are far too soft as a nation, in terms of upholding our values and beliefs… I think that’s the real issue.

      There’s a fair few issues with our society right now, we are relatively densely populated, especially in the areas people that immigrate here actually want to move to, we have a housing issue for almost all our of younger generations, we have a cost of living crisis with stagnant wages, and could do with less competition/people for all of the above.

      But I’m hoping (blindly) that those issues aren’t forever.

      The issue that is a little longer term than those hopefully are, is how we aren’t allowed to be British in a sense *(See? I sound like a racist to you…I’m well aware of what I’m saying)*

      We just don’t have the backbone as a nation, to allow people with a much more set in stone, fundamental belief in their core values, to come here on mass. We’re very bad, and almost not allowed, to be offended if they don’t integrate, so we just lay down and take it.

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      So, the TLDR is: Immigration is bad for us, because of all the actual economic and social reasons above, as well as the fact that we are a bit pathetic.

    3. Equivalent_Pay_8931 on

      One thing is for sure. UK food would be so dead without immigration.

    4. TheLimeyLemmon on

      And people in 2016 thought the EU had a more negative impact on the UK than positive, so…

    5. Thetwitchingvoid on

      Give tax cuts to people having children.

      Give tax cuts for marriage.

      Increase the wages.

      Have a culture where we uplift foundation workers who clean, work in factories, collect rubbish etc.

      On top of this, fund mental health services.

      We need to nurture our own, rather than looking towards mass migration as the solution.

    6. Easier to blame immigration given that it seems like something with an off/on switch associated to it.

      The true end-boss of UK problems is the housing crisis, which is incredibly complicated and cant be solved easily.

    7. StatisticianOwn9953 on

      1,200,000 visas a year is obviously completely mental. Any party that does that deserves to lose on that basis alone.

    8. ScaryCoffee4953 on

      Rampant, uncontrolled immigration: yes, it does. No country can support an unlimited number of immigrants who cannot themselves support the country in turn.

      *Controlled* immigration, on the other hand, is a massive boon to any society and should be both enabled and encouraged.

    9. shredditorburnit on

      It’s hard to see an argument that having more people move here in a year than we are building housing for is going to make the housing crisis better.

      I’m pro immigration, up to a point, but it would be much easier to convince people of it’s value if we kept it to a level where it didn’t strain every service and utility to breaking point.

      It’s just not sustainable for this country to keep increasing it’s population. Personally I think we should set immigration at a level that very very slowly lowers our total population. This would allow for some immigration as our birth rate isn’t very high.

      I just think countries with a population density that isn’t too high have a nicer life. But my preference would be to own several acres and not have any immediate neighbours, which I realise isn’t to everyone’s tastes.

      We should just have an honest discussion about it and work out the level that works for the people who live here already.

      And before anyone accuses me of it, no I won’t be voting for Tories or Reform, I don’t think their dog whistle bullshit is honest, workable or decent. They just want to use it to distract from the many other reasons our quality of life is going down the toilet.

    10. Of course its an issue. Look at the type of people we’ve brought in. For example, one million plus from the backwaters of Pakistan that, by the way, have instant voting rights due to the dumbass Commonwealth rules. Some parts of this country are now majority ultraconservative Muslim and look like slums. Truly thick governments we’ve had.

    11. Yeah because we replaced immigration from France and Denmark with immigration from countries where the idea of a woman in shorts is just utterly mind-blowing.

    12. AntiquusCustos on

      It’s not even a matter of benefits/costs. It’s a matter of democracy and trust.

      The public have not consented to mass immigration.

    13. As an immigrant it’s super cool seeing the sudden shift to mask off hostility that people on here have switched to over the past year or so. You realise that even if immigration was zero the powers that be STILL wouldn’t fix housing, the NHS etc.? We’re just being used as scapegoats and if you believe it you’re a midwit rube

    14. The main problem is everyone imagine immigrant as a young/middle aged man crossing channel on a boat with load of other young/middle aged man.

      Not the Filipino nurse working 6 12 hours shifts in a row in your local hospital, because they are understaffed and NHS pays shit.