whats to advice?
Other then the obvious differences, the rest are socially fabricated to cause discontent amongst the classes.
I know there is more to it, but out of context, it just seems… odd.
DeliriumOK on
What specifically about women and girls is costing Labour support – and what would Harman do that his Minister on Women and Equalities wouldn’t?
People are not voting for Reform in record numbers because of their track record on women and girls.
Economy_Seat_7250 on
Not sure the New Labour greatest hits is enough to lift the spirits of the nation… But what have they got to lose I suppose?
SnooMacarons4225 on
Bit tone deaf if this is the response to the local polls – how exactly does this address the reason people overwhelmingly abandoned Labour for reform?
Even more comical is Gordon Brown as global finance lead – this is the same Gordon Brown who oversaw the financial crash of 2008 and then proceeded to sell off our gold reserves are a rock bottom price? For context he sold off 395 tonnes at $275 an ounce, today it’s around $4700 an ounce meaning he lost tens of billions in value for our country plus the strategic benefits it offered…. Yes clearly this man is financial genius….
stbens on
This appointment, as well as Brown’s, is sheer desperation from Starmer and it won’t impress anyone. Appointing old hats to new roles won’t solve the problem of Starmer himself: he is hugely unpopular, even with Labour voters. It’s rather pathetic.
Belle_Juive on
The elections show just how out of touch Redditors are. To tell by this site, you would think people were leaving Labour in droves to vote Green, because Starmer isn’t progressive enough, when in fact the total opposite seems to be true.
Perhaps it is time to consider that a host of women’s safety concerns, that many people like to dismiss as dogwhistles for bigotry, are in fact well-founded, and not ignorable in favour of towing the party line, by both critical-thinking women and the men who listen to them?
VariousClassroom8056 on
I genuinely think this government’s focus on woman and girls is good as they face unique challenges. I also think the government should also appoint Minister’s Adviser on Men and Boys to address the unique challenges that group faces for the same reason.
Given that Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley and Deputy Chief Constable Maggie Blyth believe “Violence against women and girls is endemic, systemic and a threat to society on the same scale as terrorism.” and given that men and boys face much higher levels of violence than women and girls, it must be a threat on the level of WW3 and I trust the government will apply adequate resources to solving it.
Cynical_Classicist on
I worry that Labour will just pander to the transphobes, the Janice Turner types who heil on Trump as a feminist hero.
thedybbuk_ on
I’ll always remember Harman for working with the Tories on austerity as interim leader, causing a rebellion, and ultimately laying the ground work for the membership rejecting centrist neoliberalism and electing Corbyn.
The party membership and the party right have been at war with each other ever since.
StonedPhysicist on
Not hugely sure appointing her to this specific role with her history with the Paedophile Information Exchange is going to end well in the press, but I’m sure it’ll be another forensic blinder.
CptDobby on
Following advice, the PM has now decided that women cannot be prosecuted for driving offences
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whats to advice?
Other then the obvious differences, the rest are socially fabricated to cause discontent amongst the classes.
I know there is more to it, but out of context, it just seems… odd.
What specifically about women and girls is costing Labour support – and what would Harman do that his Minister on Women and Equalities wouldn’t?
People are not voting for Reform in record numbers because of their track record on women and girls.
Not sure the New Labour greatest hits is enough to lift the spirits of the nation… But what have they got to lose I suppose?
Bit tone deaf if this is the response to the local polls – how exactly does this address the reason people overwhelmingly abandoned Labour for reform?
Even more comical is Gordon Brown as global finance lead – this is the same Gordon Brown who oversaw the financial crash of 2008 and then proceeded to sell off our gold reserves are a rock bottom price? For context he sold off 395 tonnes at $275 an ounce, today it’s around $4700 an ounce meaning he lost tens of billions in value for our country plus the strategic benefits it offered…. Yes clearly this man is financial genius….
This appointment, as well as Brown’s, is sheer desperation from Starmer and it won’t impress anyone. Appointing old hats to new roles won’t solve the problem of Starmer himself: he is hugely unpopular, even with Labour voters. It’s rather pathetic.
The elections show just how out of touch Redditors are. To tell by this site, you would think people were leaving Labour in droves to vote Green, because Starmer isn’t progressive enough, when in fact the total opposite seems to be true.
Perhaps it is time to consider that a host of women’s safety concerns, that many people like to dismiss as dogwhistles for bigotry, are in fact well-founded, and not ignorable in favour of towing the party line, by both critical-thinking women and the men who listen to them?
I genuinely think this government’s focus on woman and girls is good as they face unique challenges. I also think the government should also appoint Minister’s Adviser on Men and Boys to address the unique challenges that group faces for the same reason.
Given that Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley and Deputy Chief Constable Maggie Blyth believe “Violence against women and girls is endemic, systemic and a threat to society on the same scale as terrorism.” and given that men and boys face much higher levels of violence than women and girls, it must be a threat on the level of WW3 and I trust the government will apply adequate resources to solving it.
I worry that Labour will just pander to the transphobes, the Janice Turner types who heil on Trump as a feminist hero.
I’ll always remember Harman for working with the Tories on austerity as interim leader, causing a rebellion, and ultimately laying the ground work for the membership rejecting centrist neoliberalism and electing Corbyn.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/21/labour-disarray-welfare-48-mps-defy-whips
The party membership and the party right have been at war with each other ever since.
Not hugely sure appointing her to this specific role with her history with the Paedophile Information Exchange is going to end well in the press, but I’m sure it’ll be another forensic blinder.
Following advice, the PM has now decided that women cannot be prosecuted for driving offences
After what happened with Mandelson and the complete battering Labour took in the Scottish, Senedd and local elections, [I don’t think appointing another alleged paedophile apologist to a government position is wise](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10661251/New-evidence-casts-doubt-on-Harriet-Harmans-defence-over-paedophile-links.html)…
It’s like rather than stand down, Starmer is actively trying to destroy the Labour Party.
Google her and PIE (Paedophile Information Exchange), she was neck deep with them in the 70’s and 80’s
Another nonce hired by Starmer
Having a person with the background, qualities and integrity of someone like her can only be good for us all
Appointments of Harman, and Brown show that he has no confidence in Jess Phillips, and Rachel Reeves
Harriet Harman is of the belief that if you say you’re a woman, you’re a woman, nothing further required
Oh good, Harriet Harperson is still around. Back from the obscurity of the Brown years where she was also pretty much useless.
Wonder how Reeves and Jess Philips are feeling today.