Keir Starmer to give major make-or-break speech in attempt to avert leadership challenge – UK politics live

It doesn’t matter what he says, the hard left Labour MPs have their knives out. It’s very Julius Caesar where as many of them stab him in the back as possible, so no one of them can be blamed.

You know he’s a man of the people because he’s not wearing a tie.

What a champion of the working class.

Personal anecdotes work better when they don’t come in extremely rehearsed and choreographed speeches, where they aren’t wedged between vague policy lip service.

If he was going for the emotional angle, he’d be better off mentioning real people in his constituents, and UK citizens he’s spoken to.

It seems a PM in the UK has to spend more than 50% of their time dealing with infighting. How about letting them do their job until their term is over? Except Liz Truss level disaster, of course.

The speech better say that Austerity, Brexit and Covid really damaged Britain and it really doesn’t matter who tells you that. Better relations with Europe is one of the few things that we can do to improve things. And the pensioners that voted for Brexit need to start paying their share of the Brexit price.

He always sounds like a lawyer, never like a leader.

Pretty much trying to save his arse, It literally sounds like he’s about to cry, trying to touch peoples hearts with sob stories. Bloke needs a wobble.

I thought it was a great speech.

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Honestly Starmer is not perfect. But what _is_ the alternative? He’s not terrible neither but all the alternatives are.

He’s insincere. The press are embarrassing. Just trying to throw zingers at him. Some of them love the sound of their own voice and think they’ve got him by the balls.

“Incrementalism won’t cut it…” *sets out agenda for incrementalism on everything*.

Honestly, that’s about all we should have expected.

I’d rather he got on with governing the country. The general public don’t listen to this stuff, it’s a speech for his own mps and the political journos, both of whom have already made up their minds.

Okay, just listened to it. Whilst I do think the press Labour get is unfair they have achieved quite a lot since coming to power; I do think his speech was just more empty rhetoric. It could have been written by one of those aspirational cards printers like “why was there only one set of footprints…” A. It’s because you walked into a minefield. People want concrete solutions to the cost of living, cost of energy … not more guff.

I haven’t been all that impressed with the labour government but that’s simply because I don’t fall into a category of people they are looking to improve the lives of and that’s fine. I’m not going to throw my toys out of the pram because their policies don’t benefit me directly, as long as it does good for the country over all.

I think it would be a disgrace if Keir is bullied out of the job. Lessons can be learnt and if he’s willing to address where they’ve possibly gone wrong, they can restore trust in the public.

I absolutely do not want to live in a country where the Greens or Reform are able to take control because they’ve managed to brainwash half the country because that’s what it is. By placing almost all of your policies on the far edge and most news worthy issues, you get a following of weak minded people voting for you and I don’t know about you, but I’d rather we lived in a country where votes are thought out and not given on the basis of issues that affect a tiny percentage of the population because they’re ‘trendy’ or drama inducing.

Starmer’s big problem for me was his uncompromise and determination with The Online Safety Act despite being a the biggest setup for failure since The War on Drugs. Jumping into bed with Palantir, and also helping to arm Israel’s current warmongering regime.

Oh, and there’s even the trans stuff – which I’m not particularly passionate for myself, i’ll be honest, but at the same time I think it’s important that the issue is handled with extreme care. And the Government would have done well to have responded to the Cass review as reasonably and as well-intentioned as the BMA just recently did a few days ago.

And at the end of the day it makes me think that he simply does not respect civil liberties and that he has this authoritarian and totalitarian side to him that I really do not like.

And with the above he’s alienating multiple smaller groups that have historically been a part of Labour’s voting base – in an attempt to appease certain groups (**who won’t be appeased with anything less than full blown extremist actions** *- such as the 45% of people who want us to be forcibly deporting immigrants from the streets and our neighbourhoods ICE style).*

Which makes no sense because he is actively alienating **more** of his historically existing voter base **than what he can gain** from the groups that **never really will be much aligned with Labour** *(except potentially when some of them might have temporarily been under Labour’s worst years with Blair’s leadership).*

I’d still vote for him again if I had to today because I am very much more against the populism and radicalism that is brewing on both sides today – **but he absolutely baffles me because he has scored some seriously unnecessary own goals despite being quite sensible, reasonable, and thoughtful almost everywhere else.**

The guy seriously needs to grow some balls and appear on TV news channels too. **The Tories constantly had cabinet ministers on TV putting forward their arguments for their policies; ensuring certain messaging was getting through to the public; and highlighting whatever data they had that could make them look good.** Starmer’s Labour has done absolutely none of that and they have no clout whatsoever.