Recurring friction over defense spending and the sudden reversal of Biden-era military agreements have convinced European leaders that they must be able to protect their own borders without relying on the political mood in Washington.
Captlard on
I would expect Europe to aim to become as independent as possible from other regions in the medium term: defence, computing and so on.
stonertear on
Makes sense really – Europe should have the capability to defend themselves. Now they are doing it.
PatBenatari on
28 nations plus Ukraine and England should be able to build a wide variety of weapons quickly.
Utterlybored on
The bright spot in our waning influence is it might limit future Trumps’ ability to wreak global havoc.
Maybe.
Hal_Fenn on
More the merrier I suppose but Europe already has multiple cruise missiles and Stratos (the next gen version of Storm Shadow / SCALP) is fairly close as well.
We desperately need to work on joint procurement instead of putting so much money into having 5 different versions of each system.
Ok_Flan4404 on
Brilliant!!!
StruggleExpensive249 on
Good job Trump…
lm28ness on
Looks like america first was just projecting to mean america last. So instead of bringing in billions, the US will now lose billions. The art of the deal at work.
midnightbandit- on
Why not just buy Stratus? Germany already uses Meteor.
That aside, with the new meteor replacement program, Stratus, new UK Type 83, GCAP, FCAS, FREMM and FDI, Europe is really becoming self sufficient when it comes to defence.
Mone132 on
This missile is objectively worse than a tomahawk. I understand Trump forced their hand but Europe should at least be capable of producing similar in quality weapon systems.
Venat14 on
Good. I hope Europe can 100% end its reliance on the US. The US will never again be trustworthy if the US even exists much longer.
LittleWranglerSpace on
Good, not sure why this was the US’s responsibility to begin with.
Marchello_E on
Instead of a dash in the title. I imagined a dot
>*According to a report by European military officials, Russia produces 1,100 cruise missiles per year, while the European Union currently produces only 300 units.*
But Russia destroys a monthly 50 in Ukraine. So basically it’s already more-or-less on par.
Unless we let Ukrainians test them out for defense.
DDoubleDDog on
Taking its own defense seriously is what the US has been trying to convince Europe to do for decades. It’s good to see European leaders finally waking up and realizing they need to contribute to their own defense and not only rely on the US to protect them.
Cyony on
it is too round, it need to be pointy.
evilfungi on
I read that Germany is looking to buy tomahawk missiles from the USA.
2Autistic4DaJoke on
So you’re telling me the US president has fucked up so badly that even our biggest export and cash cow, weapons of war, is being replaced? Absolutely cooked.
Farewell-Farewell on
Interesting.
There are already similar missiles in service in the EU and Europe generally. Storm Shadow/Scalp; Taurus; Naval Strike Missile; STRATUS being developed by the UK and France.
IRideColnago on
Good on them. For any country to be dependent particularly in weapons is a bad recipe. One of the biggest challenges is that Europe has been complacent in tech particularly AI. they are very far behind and will still require heavily on Chinese/Usa and Israeli tech.
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Recurring friction over defense spending and the sudden reversal of Biden-era military agreements have convinced European leaders that they must be able to protect their own borders without relying on the political mood in Washington.
I would expect Europe to aim to become as independent as possible from other regions in the medium term: defence, computing and so on.
Makes sense really – Europe should have the capability to defend themselves. Now they are doing it.
28 nations plus Ukraine and England should be able to build a wide variety of weapons quickly.
The bright spot in our waning influence is it might limit future Trumps’ ability to wreak global havoc.
Maybe.
More the merrier I suppose but Europe already has multiple cruise missiles and Stratos (the next gen version of Storm Shadow / SCALP) is fairly close as well.
We desperately need to work on joint procurement instead of putting so much money into having 5 different versions of each system.
Brilliant!!!
Good job Trump…
Looks like america first was just projecting to mean america last. So instead of bringing in billions, the US will now lose billions. The art of the deal at work.
Why not just buy Stratus? Germany already uses Meteor.
That aside, with the new meteor replacement program, Stratus, new UK Type 83, GCAP, FCAS, FREMM and FDI, Europe is really becoming self sufficient when it comes to defence.
This missile is objectively worse than a tomahawk. I understand Trump forced their hand but Europe should at least be capable of producing similar in quality weapon systems.
Good. I hope Europe can 100% end its reliance on the US. The US will never again be trustworthy if the US even exists much longer.
Good, not sure why this was the US’s responsibility to begin with.
Instead of a dash in the title. I imagined a dot
>*According to a report by European military officials, Russia produces 1,100 cruise missiles per year, while the European Union currently produces only 300 units.*
But Russia destroys a monthly 50 in Ukraine. So basically it’s already more-or-less on par.
Unless we let Ukrainians test them out for defense.
Taking its own defense seriously is what the US has been trying to convince Europe to do for decades. It’s good to see European leaders finally waking up and realizing they need to contribute to their own defense and not only rely on the US to protect them.
it is too round, it need to be pointy.
I read that Germany is looking to buy tomahawk missiles from the USA.
So you’re telling me the US president has fucked up so badly that even our biggest export and cash cow, weapons of war, is being replaced? Absolutely cooked.
Interesting.
There are already similar missiles in service in the EU and Europe generally. Storm Shadow/Scalp; Taurus; Naval Strike Missile; STRATUS being developed by the UK and France.
Good on them. For any country to be dependent particularly in weapons is a bad recipe. One of the biggest challenges is that Europe has been complacent in tech particularly AI. they are very far behind and will still require heavily on Chinese/Usa and Israeli tech.
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Buy Israeli. War proven to work