Majority of Britons would back a smoking ban in pub gardens

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/smoking-ban-uk-pub-gardens-play-areas-ash-b2975074.html?fbclid=Iwb21leARw7iVjbGNrBHDuIWV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHoeLhPILs43eh00_jnNImOvyuqt8xR6Wxl4rcfjzp285Ns5GJv5fm9PSDnYS_aem_VZ8b8koZ8CNpeeXaXxdkiw

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    1. Harrry-Otter on

      Surely this is one best left to the individual licensees?

      Banning outdoor smoking makes sense for somewhere that’s focused on selling food. Much less sense for a wet-led working men’s club.

    2. So long as it includes vaping. Second-hand smoke is no worse than second-hand blue pineapple fruity blast fizz.

    3. RejectingBoredom on

      I hate smoking, and I genuinely look forward to the day when it goes away

      That being said, this feels like actual nanny state shit.

    4. vikingwhiteguy on

      Ooh it’d been like a week since the last ban, I was wondering what’s next 

    5. Not a smoker. I hate it and haven’t smoked since uni days, almost 20 years ago. Let people have a fag outside if they want FFS

    6. Tancred1099 on

      Yep, another restriction the pub scenes needs whilst fighting to survive

    7. Different_Name1012 on

      Yes please ban it! It doesnt effect me in any way i just dont like the smell.

      Can we ban alcohol in pubs aswell? It effects my “mental health” when I have too many.

    8. £7 a pint and having to go a half mile away for a smoke. And yet they will lament the death of the pub.

    9. Just have a designated space. I don’t smoke but don’t ruin other people’s enjoyment. Pubs are already struggling.

    10. MiddleAgeCool on

      I don’t understand why a legal ban would be needed. If you own a pub and beleive you’ll get more customers banning smoking in the beer garden, just do it. No-one is forcing pubs to have a smoking beer garden and you can let your customers decide.

    11. Elegant-Country-9768 on

      Majority of people that don’t do something vote that others don’t do it either. Shock.

    12. RgrTehCabinBoy on

      Majority of Britons are miserable hand wringing cunts (me too when I put my mind to it) so it stands to reason 

    13. WolfColaCo2020 on

      Are they going to support it when people wander off the premises of the pub and the accompanying ashtrays to put butts in and start just lobbing them all over neighbouring streets?

    14. TheShakyHandsMan on

      Don’t make it a government policy. I’m all for smoking being eradicated. You know who will be up in arms about it though so it would be another whining point for the right wingers.

      Although getting all the unpopular stuff out of the way while approval rates are rock bottom won’t make it any worse.

    15. baguettimus_prime on

      If this was actually true then more pubs would ban smoking themselves. Obviously it’s not and people who fill in surveys just relish the idea of stopping others from doing things they don’t like.

    16. MultiMidden on

      Would be the final nail in the coffin of the pub trade. Only a few people I know smoke and they are amongst the most likely to instigate going for a pint. If they can’t have a pint they’ll just say grab some (far cheaper) beers from Tesco and come round to mine.

      I’d love to see a total ban on kids in pubs because the pub is the only ’only for adults’ social space, but I know that’s unreasonable and as above would damage the trade.

    17. TheGorgeousJR on

      Oh fuck off. At this rate I’m convinced that Labour want to give Farage the keys to number 10.

    18. SerendipitousCrow on

      I vape and I get it. As an ex smoker I hate being around smokers

      What I appreciate is when the outside seating is split between smoking and non smoking. I understand people want to eat outside and appreciate having somewhere I can go for a vape

    19. DrivenUser7277 on

      Smokers gonna smoke, especially we with a beer. The front entrance will now always have a couple of people smoking.
      Pub should have a section of outside space for smoking (when possible)

    20. ExpeditionZero on

      So that ‘slippery slope’ was just a fallacy heh?
      Once smoking dies off, these people will move onto alcohol then sugar.

    21. takesthebiscuit on

      Do the doorways first sucks having to run the gauntlet of fumes to enter the pub!

    22. WayOfTheMandalore on

      May as well just ban smoking in general. You rarely even see people doing in now. 

    23. underwater-sunlight on

      It wouldn’t be an issue if more people had awareness and common courtesy.
      Smoking outside next to a family eating isnt cool. The smokers are more acclimatised to the smoke and dont see it as that much of an issue compared to non smokers.

      The smoking ban crippled the pub industry. It also probably extended the life of non smoking bar staff that had nowhere to escape and the best conversations were the smokers chats just outside the pub (as a non smoker I always went for these amd would drink less because we were engrossed in putting the world to rights)

      Smoking and eating should not be allowed, but most pubs that are still going depend on the money from food as we are drinking less when we go out.
      I wouldn’t vote for a ban but I wouldn’t vote against it either

    24. work_number on

      As you squeeze out everything you don’t like that others enjoy, your intolerance will be collected up by other political parties and used as grievances to power them. If you do not leave enough space for other people to live the way they want to live, then political parties will weaponize those grievances and use them to win elections against the parties you support.

      The guy can’t smoke in the pub anymore, so you should probably let him smoke in the garden of the pub. That’s not much tolerance to ask for is it.

      Just wait and see which politicians go against a smoking-in-pub-gardens ban, and you’ll see the process I mentioned above in practice.

    25. deadeyes1990 on

      I do get why people get twitchy about bans, but honestly… not wanting your pint and chips to come with a side of smoke isn’t exactly tyranny.

      Smoke if you want, no one’s saying you’re evil. But pub gardens, bus stops and playgrounds are shared spaces. Asking for the air not to be half-cigarette feels more like basic manners than the fall of civilisation.