German housing market is to most dysfunctional market ever.
In majority of the civilised world, you have the paperwork, you have money, you take the flat. In Germany landlords in after sought areas ( pretty much every city with jobs ) are very picky with your values, background, ask ridiculous things like PowerPoint and presentations, have tenants preferences ( “only singles” “not old” “young couple no kids “ etc etc..).
Is beyond pathetic specially because there is no correlation between those odd fetiches and being good tenants that pay on time and give no problems.
bregus2 on
I mean, that’s a bit like water is wet: Landlords can pick who they rent to, so they will rent to tenants they deem to be lower risk.
notacheapyardsale2 on
More homes need to be built and rents need to be allowed to rise so that developers have an economic incentive to build.
rowschank on
What? No way! 😱
throwthatshiawayy on
Fork found in kitchen.
no8airbag on
wow. water is wet
wellmaybe_ on
my landlord didnt want to rent out my next door apartment to a foreigners family because “of the smell” when they cook their food. so instead she rented out to a german dude. a month in the police had to kick in his door, with full kitted special forces guys, because he had guns and was threatening to kill people online. the door was damaged for like a month, he went to jail (i guess, he never showed up again) but the floor smelled like spilled beer and cigarettes since his door stood open for a month until it got repaired.
the next renter, again a german dude, full blown afd idiot. i can hear him yell into the internet about foreigners ruining germany, at midnight hours +. the biggest loser you have ever seen. but thank god she didnt rent out the flat to someone who likes to cook curry
P26601 on
Study: Water is transparent
squarepants18 on
Sadly, the owners have so many applicants to chose from, they can set the criteria they want, as long as they don’t write them down.
fschu_fosho on
Is water wet?
Flashy_Tangerine9765 on
Well, then better don‘t come here.
OmerDe on
Überraschung
MDBerlin24 on
No shit, unfortunately due to a bad “track record”, can you blame them for not taking the risk?
Jns2024 on
You don’t say.
monnembruedi on
Surprised Pikachu face!
Drumbelgalf on
My uncle is a real estate agent and he told me his Turkish landlords are the worst when it comes to renting to foreigners. They especially don’t want other turks living in their flats. Sounds rediculus, but that is his experience.
sahelu on
Probably The Foreign person is the key concept to focus after 2010. I worked in India for a year and all my friends including me were getting extra price because we werent Indians. Even a lot of people from Afraca studying there have to go thru this. Extra charge to foreigns is everywhere, it does not matter where you focus.
M3netekel on
Anyone surprised by this is Just a fool
MTFinAnalyst2021 on
Really, the protections for renters are too great here. I mean, I enjoy these protections, because I am a renter. But, I have also been a landlord in my home country, and there, it takes no more than a month to get a bad tenant out. As in, the police come and get their ass out of your property if they are not abiding by the contract/paying rent. Here? I hear it is a MUCH longer/drawn out process. A few of my neighbors own property that just sits empty, they say they do not rent it because of the risk/difficulty of kicking bad/non-paying renters out of the property. This to say, I can see why German landlords are super picky, even if their criteria of picking renters does not really make sense sometimes.
shakazoulu on
Water is wet
DiaBall on
Housing market sucks for everyone.
ProfessionalThin6191 on
Why should immigrants get an advantage? There‘s barely any space left, Germans should come first in Germany. Makes sense?
SoggyInformation4632 on
Can I tell you my experience as a immigrant will A2 Deutsch skills for looking for apartment in Hamburg was way different
– Most of the times Landlord was not even there and current tenant/ real estate companies showed the apartment to me. I never understood how they were making decisions
– every apartment had lot of people for viewing appointments so I always faced self confidence/ low esteem problems on making a good impression on the real estate agent/ landlord/ tenant.
– 4 times, real estate agent told me from companies like wenzel that landlord rejected me and I was kept 2nd choice for them.
– One apartment in the Eppendorf (Eimsbüttel) area told me to the face that most people who get apartment here are Germans. As a immigrant I should look not here in good areas like Eppendorf and winterhude, even whenI make more than people who are there for apartment viewing.
What I mean to say is it’s tough for everyone to find an apartment in a big city
Despite55 on
Fun fact:
I live in Venlo near the Germand Border. We have thousands of labor immigrants here, mainly from Poland. The majority of them live in Germany: it is easier to get a house/appartment there and rents are lower.
PracticalCycle6793 on
to the surprise of noone? Also, obligatory:
FUCK VONOVIA
--r2 on
Germany provided housing for more than 1 million Ukrainians in a matter of months, most of this housing is paid by the state, i.e. taxpayers. Quite an achievement.
Plus free language classes for everyone.
So when Deutsche Welle says, disadvantaged. In comparison to whom?
bonaventura63 on
I earned like 5000€ netto and nobody wanted to give me apartment in a city
me_who_else_ on
Was hard to research.
Biscottino_5 on
Suprisingly I know someone who is exclusively looking to rent his appartment to non-germans.
I asked why, he said they were too much hassle and demanding for every little thing
Red-Obed on
My friends had to write a political essay explaining their views about their home country so that the landlord would approve them
Holiday-Lead7514 on
Not just in the housing market – same in the job market, too, even the ones with perfect German who are born here. Just from not having a name like Müller, Meier, Schulz…
magonba on
I am so surprised. But at least they are not disadvantaged on the job market. Right? Right???
iTmkoeln on
If I throw something into a puddle it might get wet
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German housing market is to most dysfunctional market ever.
In majority of the civilised world, you have the paperwork, you have money, you take the flat. In Germany landlords in after sought areas ( pretty much every city with jobs ) are very picky with your values, background, ask ridiculous things like PowerPoint and presentations, have tenants preferences ( “only singles” “not old” “young couple no kids “ etc etc..).
Is beyond pathetic specially because there is no correlation between those odd fetiches and being good tenants that pay on time and give no problems.
I mean, that’s a bit like water is wet: Landlords can pick who they rent to, so they will rent to tenants they deem to be lower risk.
More homes need to be built and rents need to be allowed to rise so that developers have an economic incentive to build.
What? No way! 😱
Fork found in kitchen.
wow. water is wet
my landlord didnt want to rent out my next door apartment to a foreigners family because “of the smell” when they cook their food. so instead she rented out to a german dude. a month in the police had to kick in his door, with full kitted special forces guys, because he had guns and was threatening to kill people online. the door was damaged for like a month, he went to jail (i guess, he never showed up again) but the floor smelled like spilled beer and cigarettes since his door stood open for a month until it got repaired.
the next renter, again a german dude, full blown afd idiot. i can hear him yell into the internet about foreigners ruining germany, at midnight hours +. the biggest loser you have ever seen. but thank god she didnt rent out the flat to someone who likes to cook curry
Study: Water is transparent
Sadly, the owners have so many applicants to chose from, they can set the criteria they want, as long as they don’t write them down.
Is water wet?
Well, then better don‘t come here.
Überraschung
No shit, unfortunately due to a bad “track record”, can you blame them for not taking the risk?
You don’t say.
Surprised Pikachu face!
My uncle is a real estate agent and he told me his Turkish landlords are the worst when it comes to renting to foreigners. They especially don’t want other turks living in their flats. Sounds rediculus, but that is his experience.
Probably The Foreign person is the key concept to focus after 2010. I worked in India for a year and all my friends including me were getting extra price because we werent Indians. Even a lot of people from Afraca studying there have to go thru this. Extra charge to foreigns is everywhere, it does not matter where you focus.
Anyone surprised by this is Just a fool
Really, the protections for renters are too great here. I mean, I enjoy these protections, because I am a renter. But, I have also been a landlord in my home country, and there, it takes no more than a month to get a bad tenant out. As in, the police come and get their ass out of your property if they are not abiding by the contract/paying rent. Here? I hear it is a MUCH longer/drawn out process. A few of my neighbors own property that just sits empty, they say they do not rent it because of the risk/difficulty of kicking bad/non-paying renters out of the property. This to say, I can see why German landlords are super picky, even if their criteria of picking renters does not really make sense sometimes.
Water is wet
Housing market sucks for everyone.
Why should immigrants get an advantage? There‘s barely any space left, Germans should come first in Germany. Makes sense?
Can I tell you my experience as a immigrant will A2 Deutsch skills for looking for apartment in Hamburg was way different
– Most of the times Landlord was not even there and current tenant/ real estate companies showed the apartment to me. I never understood how they were making decisions
– every apartment had lot of people for viewing appointments so I always faced self confidence/ low esteem problems on making a good impression on the real estate agent/ landlord/ tenant.
– 4 times, real estate agent told me from companies like wenzel that landlord rejected me and I was kept 2nd choice for them.
– One apartment in the Eppendorf (Eimsbüttel) area told me to the face that most people who get apartment here are Germans. As a immigrant I should look not here in good areas like Eppendorf and winterhude, even whenI make more than people who are there for apartment viewing.
What I mean to say is it’s tough for everyone to find an apartment in a big city
Fun fact:
I live in Venlo near the Germand Border. We have thousands of labor immigrants here, mainly from Poland. The majority of them live in Germany: it is easier to get a house/appartment there and rents are lower.
to the surprise of noone? Also, obligatory:
FUCK VONOVIA
Germany provided housing for more than 1 million Ukrainians in a matter of months, most of this housing is paid by the state, i.e. taxpayers. Quite an achievement.
Plus free language classes for everyone.
So when Deutsche Welle says, disadvantaged. In comparison to whom?
I earned like 5000€ netto and nobody wanted to give me apartment in a city
Was hard to research.
Suprisingly I know someone who is exclusively looking to rent his appartment to non-germans.
I asked why, he said they were too much hassle and demanding for every little thing
My friends had to write a political essay explaining their views about their home country so that the landlord would approve them
Not just in the housing market – same in the job market, too, even the ones with perfect German who are born here. Just from not having a name like Müller, Meier, Schulz…
I am so surprised. But at least they are not disadvantaged on the job market. Right? Right???
If I throw something into a puddle it might get wet