Probably a matter of, having been denied entry to U.S. airspace, they lacked fuel for anywhere other than Canada- so divert to an airport in a place with the best resources available.
I’d love to hear what happened on the ground and if there was any medical crew meeting the passenger.
Long-Cricket5024 on
What a stupid authority that allows it to land in Canada. I hate the US but sometimes they make more sense than here in Canada
Why the fuck is this our problem? Send it back to France
MacGibber on
Why didn’t the plane diver to IAD instead?
What in the status of the person from Congo in Montreal, are they in quarantine at the expense of Air France? Are all of the passengers and crew of this flight being tracked now as well?
EuropesWeirdestKing on
According to flight tracking platform FlightAware, the flight landed in Montreal at 5:15 p.m., and the passenger in question was escorted off the plane. The flight was then allowed to continue to its destination in Detroit, where it landed just after 8 p.m.
On May 18, the CDC and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security announced a 30-day travel ban on non-U.S. passport holders from the Democratic Republic of Congo, South Sudan and Uganda, as well as screenings at airports and other points of entry for all travelers who departed from airports in those countries or have visited them in the last 21 days.
In a statement, Air France confirmed that a Congolese passenger on board was denied entry into the United States.
TrueHeart01 on
Hmm. Why am I speechless?
Nonamanadus on
Well if this shit gets outta control like Covid at least we know everyone will work together to stop its spread……
Oh yeah, it will get really messy.
gwelfguy on
So is the US going to close the border with Canada given that the de facto forced the plane to land here?
Fubar236 on
Just say NO. Under no obligation to take the US’s Ebola plane. Think they are gonna “thank” us? They are laughing at us b/c now the risk is inside our borders, not theirs
miuyao on
Why the fuck do we have to deal with it!?!?!
Aplasticman on
Here’s a radical take. Ignore the troll farmers. We are Canadian we do this because it’s the right thing to do! We take care of those people we get them well and send them home with a story to tell their friends. That’s how we win. With quiet dignity.
ClubSoda on
Make them land on St. Pierre and Miquelon. It is French territory and only 10 km from Newfoundland.
Theoretical_Phys-Ed on
Don’t doom scroll this topic, just listen to the disease experts.
I don’t think the discussion should be just what will be the next pandemic, but rather this should all be an awakening to the recent massive cuts to disease monitoring at the federal level, like with CFIA and Environment and Climate Change Canada, with staffing and program cuts forcing less surveillance and testing, in spite of those scientists and working groups having very strong interest and desire to do this surveillance.
DeeDeeRibDegh on
So what’s happening w/this person now? Were they sent back to France?? We need to know the whereabouts of this individual….wth.
asaiyen on
Dumping ground for everyone’s problems I guess.
NormalMo on
Why not fly to st Pierre ?
hindey19 on
F1 weekend and Habs playoff game Monday, it’s already going to be a clusterfuck. What great timing.
the3rdmichael on
Just another reason to hate our neighbours
joeyhorshack on
This country and the world are so idiotic. Canada just gets walked over, does nothing to protect itself or its citizens.
Known outbreak of a life threatening disease, shutdown fucking travel to and from that place. Put travel restrictions in place, like immediately.
Before covid officially hit I remember seeing it on the news, and how serious it sounded in China …. If travel to and from the affected area was stopped immediately, maybe it could have been contained to a relatively small area…. It just seems like common sense.
Now this fucking Ebola .
AngryTrucker on
So they sent the ebola to fucking Canada? Send that shit back to France.
Yesterday_Infinite on
Well….fuck 🫤
RomanBlue_ on
Yes it sucks that they are going to MTL, but it might be because they had literally nowhere else to go.
And I’m going to be so fr here, I’m not even sure if them going to the US is better – US disease control is not what it used to be. I would much rather our systems handle it then the US, seeing as if it somehow turns into a big problem (which in all likelihood wont), in the US or in Canada, it’s still a big problem for Canada.
ghjm on
Under ICAO and IASTA rules, any country is allowed to deny landing permission, but not to deny transit overflight or emergency landings. So the US was within its rights to deny the landing, and Canada would have been as well. But had both countries denied it, the flight would have had to land anyway due to not having enough fuel to get to any other country (since St. Pierre and Miquelon lacks any runway long enough for a 777-200).
However, neither the US nor Canada, nor any other liberal democracy, make a parctice of arbitrarily denying landing rights without legal reason. The US has impmeneted entry restrictions as a response to the ebola crisis and Canada hasn’t. So Canada had no reason to deny the landing. This is not an oversight or mistake on Canada’s part. Canada is following WHO guidance, which currently recommends against member states implementing travel bans.
If you are looking for a way to interpret this event through the lens of Canadian populist nationalism, saying that Canada should also close its borders doesn’t quite work, because you’re implying not only that the US policy is correct, but that the US _got there first_, which doesn’t make Canada look good in comparison. The better line to take is that the US is acting arbitrarily and showing disrespect for international norms, and thank God for freedom-loving Canada, because otherwise those poor passengers would have had nowhere to go.
stephenelias1970 on
As a Montrealer one word comes to mind on hearing the news, “fuck”.
Pivotalrook on
NO! Land that shit in the land of the ignorant!
sheepwhatthe2nd on
We got Hantavirus on the West Coast, and now we Ebola on the East Coast and right in the middle we got the separatists! My bingo card is nearly full people!
Spicypewpew on
Hantabola virus coming in hot!
mmunro69 on
Why are they sending ALL the disease to Canada?!?!?!?!?
Canuck-In-TO on
The US Border Services screwed up and now they made it our problem? Why was the plane allowed to be diverted to Canada?
Time-Fix-5852 on
Isn’t this close to the opening scene of The Hot Zone? It’s been many years since I read it but I swear I remember something about a passenger plane and someone “crashing and bleeding out”. I had nightmares about that phrase for a long time.
Tractorguy69 on
Why would we do anything that puts Canada at risk too sis America right now. They’ve chosen a president who’s position on Canada and how he will treat long established treaties and allies is exceptionally clear – he’ll screw everything and everyone just to steal another dollar to add to his billions. Cut America off and let them suffer the consequences of their choices.
An-Omlette-NamedZoZo on
So the only “possible exposure” was the passenger being Congolese and from east Africa?
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And why the fuck is it our problem?
Why did they come here, go back or go to your destination
Not allowed in US so the default is Canada? Fuck that. They should have been forced to land in the US.
This took a long time to be picked up by local media. It was first reported on Reddit by some passengers on the plane and by a journalist on Twitter:
https://x.com/TVreporter/status/2057232162634535108
Probably a matter of, having been denied entry to U.S. airspace, they lacked fuel for anywhere other than Canada- so divert to an airport in a place with the best resources available.
I’d love to hear what happened on the ground and if there was any medical crew meeting the passenger.
What a stupid authority that allows it to land in Canada. I hate the US but sometimes they make more sense than here in Canada
Why the fuck is this our problem? Send it back to France
Why didn’t the plane diver to IAD instead?
What in the status of the person from Congo in Montreal, are they in quarantine at the expense of Air France? Are all of the passengers and crew of this flight being tracked now as well?
According to flight tracking platform FlightAware, the flight landed in Montreal at 5:15 p.m., and the passenger in question was escorted off the plane. The flight was then allowed to continue to its destination in Detroit, where it landed just after 8 p.m.
On May 18, the CDC and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security announced a 30-day travel ban on non-U.S. passport holders from the Democratic Republic of Congo, South Sudan and Uganda, as well as screenings at airports and other points of entry for all travelers who departed from airports in those countries or have visited them in the last 21 days.
In a statement, Air France confirmed that a Congolese passenger on board was denied entry into the United States.
Hmm. Why am I speechless?
Well if this shit gets outta control like Covid at least we know everyone will work together to stop its spread……
Oh yeah, it will get really messy.
So is the US going to close the border with Canada given that the de facto forced the plane to land here?
Just say NO. Under no obligation to take the US’s Ebola plane. Think they are gonna “thank” us? They are laughing at us b/c now the risk is inside our borders, not theirs
Why the fuck do we have to deal with it!?!?!
Here’s a radical take. Ignore the troll farmers. We are Canadian we do this because it’s the right thing to do! We take care of those people we get them well and send them home with a story to tell their friends. That’s how we win. With quiet dignity.
Make them land on St. Pierre and Miquelon. It is French territory and only 10 km from Newfoundland.
Don’t doom scroll this topic, just listen to the disease experts.
I don’t think the discussion should be just what will be the next pandemic, but rather this should all be an awakening to the recent massive cuts to disease monitoring at the federal level, like with CFIA and Environment and Climate Change Canada, with staffing and program cuts forcing less surveillance and testing, in spite of those scientists and working groups having very strong interest and desire to do this surveillance.
So what’s happening w/this person now? Were they sent back to France?? We need to know the whereabouts of this individual….wth.
Dumping ground for everyone’s problems I guess.
Why not fly to st Pierre ?
F1 weekend and Habs playoff game Monday, it’s already going to be a clusterfuck. What great timing.
Just another reason to hate our neighbours
This country and the world are so idiotic. Canada just gets walked over, does nothing to protect itself or its citizens.
Known outbreak of a life threatening disease, shutdown fucking travel to and from that place. Put travel restrictions in place, like immediately.
Before covid officially hit I remember seeing it on the news, and how serious it sounded in China …. If travel to and from the affected area was stopped immediately, maybe it could have been contained to a relatively small area…. It just seems like common sense.
Now this fucking Ebola .
So they sent the ebola to fucking Canada? Send that shit back to France.
Well….fuck 🫤
Yes it sucks that they are going to MTL, but it might be because they had literally nowhere else to go.
And I’m going to be so fr here, I’m not even sure if them going to the US is better – US disease control is not what it used to be. I would much rather our systems handle it then the US, seeing as if it somehow turns into a big problem (which in all likelihood wont), in the US or in Canada, it’s still a big problem for Canada.
Under ICAO and IASTA rules, any country is allowed to deny landing permission, but not to deny transit overflight or emergency landings. So the US was within its rights to deny the landing, and Canada would have been as well. But had both countries denied it, the flight would have had to land anyway due to not having enough fuel to get to any other country (since St. Pierre and Miquelon lacks any runway long enough for a 777-200).
However, neither the US nor Canada, nor any other liberal democracy, make a parctice of arbitrarily denying landing rights without legal reason. The US has impmeneted entry restrictions as a response to the ebola crisis and Canada hasn’t. So Canada had no reason to deny the landing. This is not an oversight or mistake on Canada’s part. Canada is following WHO guidance, which currently recommends against member states implementing travel bans.
If you are looking for a way to interpret this event through the lens of Canadian populist nationalism, saying that Canada should also close its borders doesn’t quite work, because you’re implying not only that the US policy is correct, but that the US _got there first_, which doesn’t make Canada look good in comparison. The better line to take is that the US is acting arbitrarily and showing disrespect for international norms, and thank God for freedom-loving Canada, because otherwise those poor passengers would have had nowhere to go.
As a Montrealer one word comes to mind on hearing the news, “fuck”.
NO! Land that shit in the land of the ignorant!
We got Hantavirus on the West Coast, and now we Ebola on the East Coast and right in the middle we got the separatists! My bingo card is nearly full people!
Hantabola virus coming in hot!
Why are they sending ALL the disease to Canada?!?!?!?!?
The US Border Services screwed up and now they made it our problem? Why was the plane allowed to be diverted to Canada?
Isn’t this close to the opening scene of The Hot Zone? It’s been many years since I read it but I swear I remember something about a passenger plane and someone “crashing and bleeding out”. I had nightmares about that phrase for a long time.
Why would we do anything that puts Canada at risk too sis America right now. They’ve chosen a president who’s position on Canada and how he will treat long established treaties and allies is exceptionally clear – he’ll screw everything and everyone just to steal another dollar to add to his billions. Cut America off and let them suffer the consequences of their choices.
So the only “possible exposure” was the passenger being Congolese and from east Africa?