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    Rape sentences for teen boys unduly lenient, says Jess Phillips
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    Rape sentences for teen boys unduly lenient, says Jess Phillips

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    1. jeanclaudebrowncloud on

      Teen boys can get away with anything, and don’t they just know it.

    2. hiddeninplainsight23 on

      It’s disgusting. The judge thought they didn’t need to go to prison because they were “very young”, and that he didn’t want to criminalise that, despite them raping two seperate people as a gang of three and filming both attacks on their victims, who are also very young.

      What a joke. That judge needs sacking. 

    3. TurbulentBullfrog829 on

      I’m glad that she says “seems unduly lenient” which isn’t reflected in the title. 

      It’s ok for us to say the sentence is a joke, but government ministers need to be careful interfering with the judiciary even if it appears clear cut. 

    4. crappy_ninja on

      She’s right. They planned it out, put effort into getting their victims to a secluded location, brought weapons, filmed it and shared the videos online. This wasn’t “peer pressure” or bad decision in the moment. They should absolutely have the book thrown at them.

    5. Leather_Bug4270 on

      No kidding! That some people feel okay about plotting, carrying out, recording and widely sharing a sexual assault speaks not just about how terrible they are, but how little fear they have of the consequences. And it’s not just about punishing these people, it’s even more important to ensure they can’t do it again. Because chances are they feel they can and want to. 

      Regardless of sentencing guidelines, the comments the judge made were awful and tone deaf and showed so little regards for the victims. If he’d said “oh don’t worry you little scamps, you’ll be fine” to the attackers it wouldn’t have been much different. The priority seems to be on limiting the impact on the guilty rather than on the victims.

      I’m sure the attackers and what they’ve done will be known amongst their communities. I can only hope where the law has failed ordinary people can at least shun them and their family/friends and refuse to friend them, serve them, be around them in anyway, etc. 

    6. Naive_Personality367 on

      No need to criminalise the boys who committed 2 violent rapes and filmed it… is this judge brain dead?

    7. RoyalMaleGigalo on

      I was shocked reading the sentencing. Im sorry but it’s a joke of a ruling. When I was a 15 year old lad I 100% new right from wrong, the impact of my actions and behaviours. At 15 you are very much forming your nature and personality. These boys are serious wronguns and should be treated as such. Not just as silly little boys who have done an oopsy.

    8. WackyWhippet on

      Easy for her to say now she’s abdicated any ability to do anything about it. Obviously I don’t agree with the sentence because those boys are dangerous, but avoiding custodial sentences for youth offenders at all costs is not new or totally autonomous on the part of the judge, this government and the previous one should both answer to it as well.

    9. atmoscentric on

      Their whole lives these girls will be haunted by their experiences while these rapists will continue to enjoy their own lives, cuddled by their parents and highly likely considered to be heroes by their friends, reinforcing their own perceived manliness and their toxic views of women. I hate to say this bit rather than make (young) men reconsider their misogynistic behaviour these sentences will only reinforce their own views.

    11. pajamakitten on

      A slight understatement there. The judge undoubtedly knows more about the case than I do, however just the bare outline of the crimes show the boys know what they did and did it with clear criminal intent. Maybe they could be rehabilitated, maybe not. They absolutely need to be properly punished for what they have done in the meantime. I hope that judge has a wife and daughters/granddaughters, because I suspect they will be raising hell over the sentence he gave. He should be made to answer in front of MP to explain why, in a society where violence against women is under the microscope, he thought that two rapists should walk away with a slap on the wrist.

    12. gphillips5 on

      100 percent – this is a clear fuck up by the judicial system – anxiety and ADHD and whatever aren’t fucking excuses, and it’s exactly this sort of bollocks that’s pushing people to more extreme forms of government.
      they’re rapists, it was premeditated, in a group, and they recorded it. lock the cunts up.

    13. Deadliftdeadlife on

      What’s the way to combat this? Is there a petition we can sign someone can link to?

      This isn’t right and I think people need to take action to show that’s not right

    15. Mjukplister on

      So the male judge didn’t want to ‘criminalise’ then for being criminals ? They lured her , filmed her , gang raped and then allowed her to be abused . This case needs the fucking book thrown at them . They need to be criminalised so people take it seriously . Ugh . Those poor
      Girls and that SHIT judge

    16. El_Scot on

      >Judge Nicholas Rowland said he would avoid “criminalising” the “very young” boys

      The boys criminalised themselves. The judges sentence should have reflected that.

    17. ash_ninetyone on

      I know there is a hesitence to imprison teens for crimes against trying to rehabilitate them

      But this is a crime where they should be behind bars.