I don’t know if I’m too dumb but do this paintings mean that it is a 2 way bicycle lane?
They are in all the bycicle lanes of Radom except probably from Mieska I to Chrobrego Streets.
I don’t feel like it’s right honestly because I thought bicycle lanes were marked with lines, maybe I’m overthinking too much but I seriously don’t want to make any mistakes so other people feel uncomfortable
Is it like this in all of Poland?
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Don’t worry, whole Poland doesn’t understand Radom in general.
Yes, you are overthinking. Bicycle lanes on pavement are in general 2-way unless it’s marked else.
I am Polish and I do not claim to fully understand it either, but I interpret it as 2-way lane due to the fact that bicycles painted on the ground are in 2 different directions. That, plus the fact that there is no indication of it being a one way lane, which I would expect to be there as a sign – in case it was one.
Striped lines divide the bike lane and sidewalk. Pictograms of bikes inquire the 2-way bike lanes.
It’s like that nearly everywhere, you should keep the right, but it is not as strict as for cars (obviously), like on escalators you should stand on the right and leave the left hand side for those walking or more often running.
Those pictured are two way. One bike symbol would also work… Bike symbol with chevrons (stacked ^^^) means it *is* one way though.
Don’t know about Radom ,but there are 1-way bike lanes in Wrocław, the painting of the bike is always pointed so that you see it upright and are B-2 signs installed on the lane at intersections so that you know you cannot ride the other way. Some people still ride against the flow, which is annoying, but won’t get you fined or anything.
Honestly, just look for the B-2 signs, if there are none, you’re fine.
I love them. I am from the US and we have no such infrastructure. These make it possible to bike anywhere and it’s friggen amazing
Bike lanes in radom are random
> Radom
Well, I think I found your problem. Welcome to Radom
to be continued…
There must be a blue sign C-13 to mark a cycling lane.
Same like this pedestrian crossing through the cycling line on the 3rd picture it’s not really a pedestrian crossing because there is no blue sign P-10. Many cities paint those white lines that looks like pedestrian crossings but not add P-10 signs.
Actually in the case of the 3rd picture there should be a sign C-13 | C-16 – blue sign with vertical light which marks on which side there is a pavement and a cycling lane.
The white signs here indeed show that this line is bi directional. They’re addition to the sign C-13 however they’re not defined in Kodeks Drogowy but in **Rozporządzenie Ministrów Infrastruktury oraz Spraw Wewnętrznych i Administracji z dnia 31 lipca 2002 r. w sprawie znaków i sygnałów drogowych.**
**So there are some people that dispute if they are even legally binding which is another topic.**
**But yeah, generally speaking this means that’s a two way cycling lane – but remember they mean nothing if there is no blue C-13 sign.**
in Wroclaw I have at one place one sided lane; in one place in the middle it marked as two sided, and then – one sided again.
To understand bike lanes in Poland you have to know few things:
– Bike lanes are not made for bicyclists. They are designed to make use of EU and government funds in a way that allows decision maker’s friends and families to gain from them.
– Bike lanes in Poland are designed by people who have cycled for the last time when they were 8 and got a bike as a present for their first communion.
– Bike lanes are not meant to help cyclists. They are merely to get rid of cyclists from the roads, so drivers can have it all for them.
cuz radom
The bicycle lane situation is disastrous.
They should ban turning sidewalks into cycling lanes and restore our sidewalks and also get rid of cyclists and electric scooterists from sidewalks themselves.
I just want to add that two-way lines are pretty much standard now. One-way lines are narrow, on both sides of the road, but people sometimes ignore it (or just don’t know it’s one-way).
i read this as “Random” and it made little difference in understanding the post, which proves Radom === Random
People that are creating them never have seen a bicycle, thats why.
only problem is #3 where it’s not clear if someone forget about rest of crossing or crossing suppose to be gone (yeah, you can tell that by signs, but still)
It’s hard to explain. As for path for bicycles – if the sign is centered it’s one way. But it could also have double dash symbol or an arrow above bicycle symbol to indicate it’s one way. If it’s just ordinary sign on the right side of lane (by the shoulder/curb) it’s two way road. On intersections it should either be canceled by vertical sign (so by law you should dismount and walk pushing your bicycle), or continue through road. Seeing both normal and mirrored bicycle sign on same “lane” means it’s both ways road.
Also, in standards for road designers normalized width of bicycle lane for one way is 1,5 m, both ways 2,0 m. Minimal width for (two way) sidewalk is 1,5 m.
Nobody understands Radom bicycle lanes
The lines and signs painted on the surface are just an aid, they do not actually “make” bicycle lanes. The posted traffic signs do. From your photos 1 & 2 it looks like the pathways were resurfaced fairly recently and there are no markings whatsoever, except the few on crossings. There’s a chance it’s temporary. But it could also be a haf-arsed project.
The third photo shows the line dividing pedestrian pathway from the bike lane, which I can only assume corresponds with a posted sign.
The signs you’re looking for are:
– Blue disc, with white bicycle – dedicated bike path.
– Blue disc, divided horizontally with a white line, one half shows pedestrians, the other a bicycle – mixed use path. Usually that will be a path too narrow to divide between pedestrians and bicycles, or a spot where path going in many directions cross.
– Blue disc, divided vertically with a white line, one half shows pedestrians, the other a bicycle – the path is divided into pedestrian and bicycle use with no physical separation. Most of the time there will be some visual division – painted line, curb, different surface. But there doesn’t have to be. The sign tells you which side is for pedestrians and which for bicycles, even if there’s no visual separation.
If a marked cycle lane goes along a road or street, you are obliged to use it, you’re not allowed on the street.
If there are cycle lanes on the both ways of rhe road, they are in principle one-way, and you ahould use the one on the right. Unless they’re marked otherwise. In the cases from your photos, the surface markings are telling you there either is no bike lane on the other side, or if there is, the posted signs make your pathway a two-way path anyway. But the surface signs are like indicators – there to help you, but if they are wrong (don’t match what the actual posted signs show), it is still your fault for trusting them.
Every time I’m in Radom, my phone switches to roaming. Does this only happen to me? In the middle of the country…
You don’t understand Radom, it understands you.
One way bicycle lanes are a rare luxury. They’re always two way and sadly in many cases they can start & end very suddenly forcing you to either switch to the street or ride the sidewalk illegally.