Because we keep voting in the same 2 parties since the founding of the state
Veronese1 on
“In addition, Ireland….is an expensive country to do business in.” You’re telling me! – Michael Healy Rae
MyPhantomAccount on
I’ll answer in the format of the electricity company’s: why is Irelands electricity so expensive? “Because fuck you, that’s why”
awood20 on
The obvious answer to reduce the need for gas and fossil fuels. The government should be going all in on generating electricity here. That means renewables, wind, wave and solar. Takes us away from the oil and gas price market and cuts out the price of transporting it here. This is on the government to invest and insulate the market. Prices will then comes down over time.
mother_a_god on
Every time this comes up, there are people in the thread who defend the system that exists (dearest producer sets the price) and the excessive hedging that is done by providers, citig the one or two times the prices spiked as justification, despite ojn average it costing way more. It seems we have a lot of vested interests in nothing changing.
Also, we need to be way more ambitious with our grid expansion plans, incluidng wind and solar. Other countries are doing much more in actual and relative terms.
Tomaskerry on
Spain and Australia have reduced electricity prices by having lots of renewables like solar and batteries.
Might be possible here by 2030 once we have 95% SNSP.
FViro on
Greed
Craicriture on
End of a long gas pipe, relatively little and expensive subsea DC interconnection, very high infrastructure costs due to low population density scatter patterns in rural areas, and endless NIMBYism blocking renewable infrastructure rollout.
The configuration as a small, isolated, fragmented market hasn’t been helpful either. We basically didn’t benefit as consumers at all from the market opening – prices went up.
That generally has not been the case on the continent.
We’ve also got rapidly growing demand for new connections from housing – despite the talk here, we are building way more housing per 100,000 than almost anywhere else in the EU and that’s competing for generation and network capacity with data centres and is up against endless nimby driven hurdles and blockades, and various nonsense holding up expansion of networks.
We also aren’t moving fast enough with solar both domestic roof top stuff and large scale e.g we could be using the already strip mined, drained and ruined Bord na Mona bogs and the fact we don’t have offshore wind in a big way at this stage is just utter policy, political and public attitude failure tbh. You can blame the politicians to a degree, but we are the ones driving their priorities and we are scoring a lot of own goals.
qwerty_1965 on
“He added: “All of the electricity distribution wires in the country would wrap around the world four times,” he said, adding that is “highly unusual in Europe and it means the cost of moving electricity is proportionally much higher here”.
You in the sticks on God’s little acre, that’s your expense that is.
BadgerBitter5613 on
Obviously the lack of renewables and the way the price is linked to gas but surely being an island works against us too
Dannyforsure on
From the article:
| relation to the cost of moving electricity around, Dr Deane notes that Ireland’s electricity distribution network is “unusually large relative to the size of the population”.
A great example of the extra cost of one off housing in this country that people like to pretend doesn’t exist.
darrirl on
Why not – no one in power seems to give a toss . Company’s service the shareholders not the public , if you can charge more for less and get a better return we’ll do that till you get push back .. apathy Ireland we don’t do that ..
Dannyforsure on
It’s wild for them so ays renewables aren’t cheap when there many people in Ireland have hugely reduced their electric bill with solar and battery combinations.
If it’s possible for individuals but not at scale that jist reflects commercial needs driving up prices with their demand partners (data centers) and not paying their fair share.
TomRuse1997 on
This sub feels increasingly like r/Irelandenergyprices
Secure_Anything on
Because a quarter of it goes to data centers.
kaahooters on
It’s because all our providers are subsidising the UK market.
remindmetomorrow on
We went from having some of the lowest energy costs in Europe to this, after we opened up provision to the private market. And yet no talk of reverting. Shows you where the priorities lie!
Why wouldn’t it be the highest?
A cup of coffee is regularly €4. Bottle of coke is €2.40
Bought a Solero ice cream today and it was €3.15
Houses, cars, holidays all cost a fortune here.
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Because we pay it and don’t protest.
Because we keep voting in the same 2 parties since the founding of the state
“In addition, Ireland….is an expensive country to do business in.” You’re telling me! – Michael Healy Rae
I’ll answer in the format of the electricity company’s: why is Irelands electricity so expensive? “Because fuck you, that’s why”
The obvious answer to reduce the need for gas and fossil fuels. The government should be going all in on generating electricity here. That means renewables, wind, wave and solar. Takes us away from the oil and gas price market and cuts out the price of transporting it here. This is on the government to invest and insulate the market. Prices will then comes down over time.
Every time this comes up, there are people in the thread who defend the system that exists (dearest producer sets the price) and the excessive hedging that is done by providers, citig the one or two times the prices spiked as justification, despite ojn average it costing way more. It seems we have a lot of vested interests in nothing changing.
Also, we need to be way more ambitious with our grid expansion plans, incluidng wind and solar. Other countries are doing much more in actual and relative terms.
Spain and Australia have reduced electricity prices by having lots of renewables like solar and batteries.
Might be possible here by 2030 once we have 95% SNSP.
Greed
End of a long gas pipe, relatively little and expensive subsea DC interconnection, very high infrastructure costs due to low population density scatter patterns in rural areas, and endless NIMBYism blocking renewable infrastructure rollout.
The configuration as a small, isolated, fragmented market hasn’t been helpful either. We basically didn’t benefit as consumers at all from the market opening – prices went up.
That generally has not been the case on the continent.
We’ve also got rapidly growing demand for new connections from housing – despite the talk here, we are building way more housing per 100,000 than almost anywhere else in the EU and that’s competing for generation and network capacity with data centres and is up against endless nimby driven hurdles and blockades, and various nonsense holding up expansion of networks.
We also aren’t moving fast enough with solar both domestic roof top stuff and large scale e.g we could be using the already strip mined, drained and ruined Bord na Mona bogs and the fact we don’t have offshore wind in a big way at this stage is just utter policy, political and public attitude failure tbh. You can blame the politicians to a degree, but we are the ones driving their priorities and we are scoring a lot of own goals.
“He added: “All of the electricity distribution wires in the country would wrap around the world four times,” he said, adding that is “highly unusual in Europe and it means the cost of moving electricity is proportionally much higher here”.
You in the sticks on God’s little acre, that’s your expense that is.
Obviously the lack of renewables and the way the price is linked to gas but surely being an island works against us too
From the article:
| relation to the cost of moving electricity around, Dr Deane notes that Ireland’s electricity distribution network is “unusually large relative to the size of the population”.
A great example of the extra cost of one off housing in this country that people like to pretend doesn’t exist.
Why not – no one in power seems to give a toss . Company’s service the shareholders not the public , if you can charge more for less and get a better return we’ll do that till you get push back .. apathy Ireland we don’t do that ..
It’s wild for them so ays renewables aren’t cheap when there many people in Ireland have hugely reduced their electric bill with solar and battery combinations.
If it’s possible for individuals but not at scale that jist reflects commercial needs driving up prices with their demand partners (data centers) and not paying their fair share.
This sub feels increasingly like r/Irelandenergyprices
Because a quarter of it goes to data centers.
It’s because all our providers are subsidising the UK market.
We went from having some of the lowest energy costs in Europe to this, after we opened up provision to the private market. And yet no talk of reverting. Shows you where the priorities lie!
https://preview.redd.it/bs89s3o1bw2h1.png?width=1537&format=png&auto=webp&s=a19e3df1d000c4274abc4660505270f723c047cb
From [https://www.seai.ie/data-and-insights/seai-statistics/prices](https://www.seai.ie/data-and-insights/seai-statistics/prices)
Why wouldn’t it be the highest?
A cup of coffee is regularly €4. Bottle of coke is €2.40
Bought a Solero ice cream today and it was €3.15
Houses, cars, holidays all cost a fortune here.
We’re an extraordinarily expensive place to live.