Danielle Smith’s wishful thinking: her separation vote loses, and that’s the end of it
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/analysis-danielle-smith-separation-vote-strategic-thinking-9.7209635
Danielle Smith’s wishful thinking: her separation vote loses, and that’s the end of it
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/analysis-danielle-smith-separation-vote-strategic-thinking-9.7209635
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They got the votes for a referendum, just do it as the article keeps saying. People will vote it down if they wish.
lol she wants it more than anyone. I wish it would be the end of her political career.
Nah she’s made some deals somewhere with someone. Maybe Americans. Maybe oil companies. Who knows. There’s money for her if the separation referendum is successful.
If she wanted it gone, she should have just accepted the ruling in the court, let the separatists appeal, and only actually get into discussions about a referendum when that entire appellate process was finished with and closed, a couple of years from now.
She wants to APPEAR like she’s against it, all the while allowing it to propagate and advance through our systems by enabling it when it was *already stalled out.*
Tell us how many signatures the separatists have. They won’t say. They’re waiting for Washington to give them a strategy. They were already given American designed software, with the active endorsement of the American ambassador, to steal names and IDs. Now they’re going to be told what to do next .
Dangerous strategy. Quebec separatists lost the first referendum by 20 points but almost took the 2nd one. A 60:40 vote in Alberta would give the separatists and their foreign supporters hope. An 80:20 vote would be seen as an inroad. They won’t go away unless they just stop it by saying it’s illegal and unconstitutional which it is.
The Courts quashed the referendum for separation, isn’t pushing a referendum for a referendum-for-separation considered contempt? This should be quashed too, and penalized further for bad faith behaviour.
UCP is arguing they’re “picking a process that is respectful of the Courts”. It’s the opposite. It’s contempt.
Seperation is an American op that with make Danielle lots of money, destabilize Canada, and give Trump an excuse to use “freedom” to save Canada (or just Alberta, to start) from tyranny when seperation gets killed.
Now will the last part really happen? God I hope not. Is it something the American admin has plans for? I’m sure of it.
There are two outcomes here:
1) the separatists lose and whine about the process being unfair, claim victimization and the cycle starts anew.
2) the separatists accept foreign assistance to cheat and win.
Separatists aren’t going away unless we make them go away. And we make them by voting out the UCP
She’s doing the right thing , letting democracy work. 700k people signed petitions for/against separation. Let the people decide if we goto a referendum or not . I’m not pro or anti separation but the anti separatist group seems confident in the numbers , what is there to be afraid of imo, put your money where your mouth is .
It seems like Albertans are afraid of experiencing of democracy.
It’s amazing how someone can fold to US interests so easily.
I just need to do X and it will go all away. Oh, then I need to do Y, and then Z, and then X+Y+Z+A, and then hope it all goes away.
It’s like she’s a useful idiot that just wants to save her posiiton of power for another year or two at the expense of the country.
Ask anyone in the UK how that worked out for us. She’s just provided the billionnaire clash an opportunity to drive a wedge through society. They will use it.
National embarrassment
As a 40 year old resident of SK my opinion is the Conservatives want separation to keep being an issue so they can farm votes in western Canada. As long as we’re upset at Ottawa and/or Liberals they win elections by default. Conservatives manufactured separatist sentiment all along.
Here is my manifesto for those who think I’m just bullshiting.
Western alienation has its roots going back to ancient history but **since even the reform days it’s been 90% bullshit propaganda pushed by conservatives so they can win elections by default and avoid having to compete in a meaningful debate on policy because without it they would lose here like they lose everywhere else.**
I don’t even know what their arguments are now… Carbon tax? We’ve had busts in oil and gas regularly through history so, like, try again.
Consider this.
The conservatives always tell us the equalization formula punishes us unfairly. It’s more or less the same formula as when Harper was PM. When Pierre had an unbelievable lead in the polls and a chance to change it what did he say? No plans to change it.
https://www.westernstandard.news/canadian/poilievre-vows-no-big-changes-to-equalization-program-under-conservative-government/61502
The truth is, it isn’t unfair. That’s part of the reason he won’t change it. That’s part of the reason the Harper government left it the way it is. When they’re in power they ignore the issue, when the Liberals are in they remind us to be angry. But they don’t want anyone to *think* it’s fixed because then they couldn’t rely on our votes in every election.
The next thing is that the Liberals and Ottawa don’t support the oil sector. Except, remember when Trudeau bought that pipeline. And our oil production is at an all time high.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trans-mountain-pipeline-1.7179268
The truth? It’s always fluctuated with demand and global changes to price. But success in politics, especially provincial politics where little swings in the price per barrel means everything in terms of unemployment and government income they use to buy votes – it’s vital to paint the political enemies as responsible so they do.
Finally, consider our neighbors and an org called Take Back Alberta. This is a massive story on its own, google it, honestly. It’s interesting that a non-conservative party formed a provincial government once in practically 100 years and the conservatives were so upset they formed a psychopath org and started cheating.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/edmonton/article/3rd-party-advertiser-take-back-alberta-fined-more-than-100k-by-elections-alberta/
Look at what they’re willing to do when their monopoly on power and controling the narrative is threatened even once.
The conservative politicians are very successful at propaganda and they do it intentionally. The are far less skilled at governing.
Back in the reform days when they really started pushing the concept one of big issues was senate reform.
They created some sham elections in Alberta and called it a day. Why is that sufficient “reform” when they don’t fundamentally change anything? Maybe because the conservative insiders know who will win them in the end. And maybe because the west isn’t really “alienated” by the Senate at all. *Although I do think the senate is kinda bogus it’s just not a reason to be an unpatriotic traitor to the country*
Here are a few more things to ponder.
-When people are giving examples of how Ottawa/Liberals hurt O&G how high up the list in verifiable grievances is the NEP from *40 years ago*?
-Have you ever been told by a conservative friend that our ridings have a higher population than all those ridings in Ontario? I don’t know if this is a current speaking point but it was when the Reform Party invented the alienation propaganda machine. Look for yourselves. It’s a lie.
AB and SK are the last to sign child care deals with Ottawa. What would signing the same deal as everyone else have to do with harming their interests?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/saskatchewan-one-of-two-provinces-holding-out-on-signing-new-federal-child-care-deal-1.7477277
Again, if you look at it through the prism of prioritizing political gain by promoting the concept of alienation, and you understand the conservative parties believe that is best achieved by making sure nothing with Ottawa or championed by another political party works, all of a sudden it’s consistent. It’s not like we have no children or something. That’s not why their government doesn’t want it.
These grievances are strategically manipulated to advance the cause of *conservativism* not the west or Saskatchewan. And there’s designed to prevent any debate about policies.
It’s why we have trouble finding doctors and class sizes that are too large. Because we can’t replace the inept conservative politicians because they manipulate us with this bullshit.
Her legacy will be willingly throwing a match onto that powderkeg
Marlaina’s legacy will be that she fought harder against LGBTQ people than against people trying to rip apart Alberta.
There is no win here. With a new pipeline on the horizon, we need a proponent to build it and they aren’t going to like the uncertainty surrounding this. Once a new 1 million bbl a day pipeline is built, it will take $100b in capital investment to fill it. Stability could result in a lot of that being foreign investment into Canada which would create an employment and tax boom.
This is game changing investment especially with uncertainty in the US.
What worries me is the question isn’t to separate but to hold a binding referendum to separate. This just invites Albertans to “send a message” because, even if the remain in Canada vote loses, it doesn’t mean we are leaving. Instead, it will create years of uncertainty that could negatively impact a pretty nice looking economic environment.
If Albertans vote to stay, then the separatists will try to oust Smith and take over the UCP, which means at least another year of this before the October 2027 general election.
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This idiot has opened a Pandora’s box of shit. There will be massive international influence and misinformation campaigns. The goal will be to tear Canada apart when our country is at its weakest.
She used the threat as leverage, got what she wanted from the feds, had an out gifted to her from the courts and DIDN’T TAKE IT. **That was a huge mistake IMO.**
She should’ve cut her base loose after the MOU and shifted to the center. Now she’s adrift with no support in either camp.
No one actually knows what’s going on.
What is the point of holding a referendum when polling indicates it obviously won’t pass?
She has a choice — stand for something or nothing.
Some people’s lives are charmed, and circumstances align for them. That doesn’t seem to be her path. Rather, it’s to choose courage, legacy, and career collapse, or options that are far worse. This is the most important issue of our generation. If she is decisive in supporting either side she will be hated by many and her political career may be over. If she is decisive for Canada, all that will be true … and she will be remembered as an important leader in the history of the country — someone who put country before self.
If she makes her career the main character and tries to play to all she will without question by hated be all and reviled by history.
Smith is a survivor. The vote to have a vote and it’s consequences are tomorrows problems. She needs to get through today, and this does that for her.
>Danielle Smith’s wishful thinking: her separation vote lose
Smith doesn’t want the seperation vote to lose.
Saying she wants an independent Alberta as part of Canada is simply saying she doesn’t want Alberta to join the USA but she doesn’t want to be bound to Canada, its constitution, or its purse.
I really hope that people everywhere go out and vote. And dont fall for the bs of sending a message to ottawa and vote no on the question if Alberta should stay in canada. They are trying to trick us.
Pulling a David Cameron