The best time to join a union was the day you started the job. The second best time to join is today.
FootFalse5536 on
I can’t read the article to see where they got that but my bullshit detector going off on this.
Speaking only for myself working in IT I am pretty criminally underpaid and so are lots of people I work with.
And as for not joining a union, there was no union to join and I’m not going to even try to get one together myself.
mologav on
Let me check my bank account. Yeah I’m not well paid.
mother_a_god on
France lost of lot of tech companies due to it’s heavily unionised tech work forces, similar thing in Italy. For something as mobile as tech, when the big players are all multinationals who can at the stroke of a pen chose to shift to any one of hundreds of locations, it’s not a simple choice that union is always right.
If Ireland loses the MNCs it’ll be a lot poorerer. Maybe it would be the kick in the arse needed to actually get efficient public services for the money we have
FeistyPromise6576 on
The article is daft has hell. It tries and utterly fails to link AI layoffs to tech workers suddenly wanting to unionize while also admitting that any hypothetical union would be powerless to change anything.
Willing-Departure115 on
In general I think that the tech bros are showing that if they can, they’d like to see rights moving away from labour and towards capital (this is a see-saw that has happened throughout history). So I think a more assertive labour movement would be a good idea in these times, but obviously one rooted in fair treatment of workers and not just feathering of nests (as bad unions end up getting a reputation for being focused on).
GarthODarth on
I got seriously messed around a couple years ago and noticed that several of my colleagues were unionised and a lot less stressed about it all.
I’ve been in a union ever since. I got lucky and learned my lesson during a minor mess around. I’ll have my union backing me up next time. It doesn’t cost much at all.
Professional_Elk_489 on
Irish govt should set in place some ground rules that strike a good balance between letting these companies go full Oracle vs packing up and leaving. It’s a national strategic imperative to get it right
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The best time to join a union was the day you started the job. The second best time to join is today.
I can’t read the article to see where they got that but my bullshit detector going off on this.
Speaking only for myself working in IT I am pretty criminally underpaid and so are lots of people I work with.
And as for not joining a union, there was no union to join and I’m not going to even try to get one together myself.
Let me check my bank account. Yeah I’m not well paid.
France lost of lot of tech companies due to it’s heavily unionised tech work forces, similar thing in Italy. For something as mobile as tech, when the big players are all multinationals who can at the stroke of a pen chose to shift to any one of hundreds of locations, it’s not a simple choice that union is always right.
If Ireland loses the MNCs it’ll be a lot poorerer. Maybe it would be the kick in the arse needed to actually get efficient public services for the money we have
The article is daft has hell. It tries and utterly fails to link AI layoffs to tech workers suddenly wanting to unionize while also admitting that any hypothetical union would be powerless to change anything.
In general I think that the tech bros are showing that if they can, they’d like to see rights moving away from labour and towards capital (this is a see-saw that has happened throughout history). So I think a more assertive labour movement would be a good idea in these times, but obviously one rooted in fair treatment of workers and not just feathering of nests (as bad unions end up getting a reputation for being focused on).
I got seriously messed around a couple years ago and noticed that several of my colleagues were unionised and a lot less stressed about it all.
I’ve been in a union ever since. I got lucky and learned my lesson during a minor mess around. I’ll have my union backing me up next time. It doesn’t cost much at all.
Irish govt should set in place some ground rules that strike a good balance between letting these companies go full Oracle vs packing up and leaving. It’s a national strategic imperative to get it right