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    1. SwiftieNewRomantics on

      Surely the answer is to ban the parents who don’t mind their children while they’re having a few swift ones.

    2. parkchanwookiee on

      There needs to be more aggressive segregation between normal pubs and family friendly drinking establishments. Put a play park outside like it’s Maccy D’s so I know to stay away

    3. ImmaDoWatIWant on

      I’d welcome it, its hard to relax when there’s screaming kids running around.

    4. It’s interesting that any restaurant or pub that considers creating an exclusively adult (or over x years) space is newsworthy. There seem to be two narratives – either that it’s a sign of social decline, or unnecessary pearl-clutching that is a slippery slope to children being banned from all restaurants.

    5. godoflemmings on

      Never done pub work but did in a café and yeah, kids running rampant because parents were too busy gossiping was the worst part of the job *by far.* I can see the argument for this for sure.

    6. Anxious_Equipment144 on

      So, they’re not actually banning kids, they’re going to restrict it to 12 years old and over unless the parents can look after their kids. Seems reasonable enough.

    7. IlIIIllIIlIlllII on

      I work in early years i assure you these parents do not give a fuck and will take great offence their perfect angels are being accused of such behaviour

    8. The culture in this country will do absolutely anything to avoid blaming parents

    9. As a father of 2 under 7, I avoid kids friendly pubs when I don’t have mine 🤣

    10. tylerthe-theatre on

      I talk about this issue with my friends a lot, pubs arent daycare centres, take your kids to a park, theme parks museums, shrek adventure or whatever. There are plenty of kid themed places, pubs are just for lazy parents that cant get a babysitter if we’re being honest.

      Other people shouldn’t be inconvenienced because you dont care to watch your kid.

    11. Completely agree with this. Nothing worse than going somewhere to have screaming kids and “parents” not doing a damn thing about it.

      As another comment said, we are in a culture that will do anything but blame parents and it needs to change. Want to be a shitty parent? Just stay at home because you’re making everywhere worse for everyone, including ruining things for actual good parents.

      Your kid might be the most precious thing to you, but it isn’t an excuse to ruin everyone else’s day.

    12. WhatGoesZzubZzub on

      They can’t play out in the street, because they will upset the neighbors
      They can’t walk to the park, because the roads are too dangerous
      They can’t talk to strangers, because of stranger danger
      They can’t buy anything, because they don’t have their own money
      They can’t be in the pub with their parents, because they disturb the customers
      They can’t use the internet, who knows what they might find there?

      There was once a terrible time where children were seen and not heard. Now we can be pleased to say: children are neither seen nor heard!

    13. So many bad parents about, don’t you feel embarrsed you kid is being an ass and ruining it for other people

    14. gertrudegrunge on

      Our local pubs are inviting kids in on a Saturday night to keep the door open.

    15. These threads are always weird to me. What pubs are you all going in that are full of kids running around? I never see it. Most pubs I go in don’t have any kids in, never mind loads running around.

      Surely if you don’t want to be around kids in a pub it would be very easy to find a pub like that.

    16. Almost_human-ish on

      I’ll be honest I can’t think if anything weirder than taking young kids to a pub – unless it’s more if a food place than just a pub.

      Want to drink alcohol in a pub? Get a fucking childminder FFS.

    17. Substantial_Key4640 on

      The lazy sods sit there insisting it’s the job of the ‘village’ to help them with their children. But God help the village if you tell their feral progeny to stop kicking your chair or screaming into a dog’s face after crawling under the table.

    18. I mean…the business can ask anyone to leave whose causing issues so no need to ban but could just remove/refuse service to anyone causing a problem

    19. visitingshortly on

      Good. Just have good pubs and family pubs. Make it clear which stretch so family pubs can be avoided. 

    20. citizen-spur on

      There’s quite a big influx of Hong Kong immigrants here in Kingston.

      Big family groups descending on the Wetherspoons, but the kids all seem to be doing home work or colouring-in. Mebbe on phone I guess.

      Kids are not the problem.

    21. Regular_Fruit_2907 on

      Why can’t parents discipline their own children? What does it take for these parents to understand their kids are brats and have unacceptable behaviour? I honestly understand the licensees an accident and their insurance will go through the roof. They are most likely losing a small fortune in customers that won’t come simply because it’s not a relaxed environment it’s a daycare! It seems the behaviour and curiosity in our culture has tanked the past 20 yrs

    22. Obvious_Yard_1846 on

      In the 90s it used to be fairly common for pubs to not allow kids or limit them to the pub garden

    23. DrStumbleDog on

      I work retail and far too many parents think its okay to let their kids loose in a premises and treat it like a playground. 

    24. Theonewithcurls on

      As a parent to a toddler and a baby, I totally agree; just because they are kids doesn’t mean they can treat things without respect.

    25. Not allowing feral anyone in any place is entirely the right of the landlord/lady. Our rule is “my house, my rules”, if the landlord says something, it goes, you treat it like his house.

      In our local kids are allowed and a lot of them join in with the adults as they are on first name basis(will join and chat about the footy) but there are kids (and adults) who change the tone when they come in and a good landlord will manage that family giving them their “special” table (IE sticking them in a corner) and giving the kids a “gift” (usually some coloring or board games to play with)..

      Let’s keep a semblance of perspective here.. Problematic adults are a bigger problem than feral children.

    26. uncle_jaysus on

      Surely it’s a great British tradition where parents get lashed while their kids play and socialise and form alliances and enemies and fight and then tell their parents and then make up and then go home having had the best time ever.

      That’s my recollection from childhood, anyway. I suppose it’s entirely possible there were tables and tables of miserable childless adults wishing we’d all piss off home. I didn’t notice. Too busy having fun being a child.

    27. Research into the pub shows they don’t have any play equipment, don’t serve food (recent change but still) and react terribly to children. What do you expect children to do while mommy and daddy knock back pints? Sit there being bored? Of course they are going to entertain themselves with the open space.

      Yes they should be told off by the parents when pulling up flowers but to be honest I question why the parents are even taking them in the first place. There’s clearly nothing for children.

    28. Most British parents are absolute useless.

      You get either the bozo from the estate who doesn’t give a toss and gets aggressive if someone says Hayden and Nevaeh are being a bit of a cunt. Or the Middle-Class, wet behind the ears sap who believes in “gentle parenting” rather than punishing Ambrose and Persephone when they decide to put a brick through someone’s greenhouse.

    29. TheChaoticCrusader on

      Don’t just make it pubs . Have most places have this rule . Parents need to do their job of raising their kids and them running around places like this causing mayhem is pathetic . Running unless an emergency should be a rule put at the door at this rate 

      And don’t get me started on people who leave massive messes like you would not do it at home . A small child or a baby maybe I could understand but grown ups and older kids should know better 

      It’s about time parents were held more accountable for their children’s actions . I don’t mind if the parent is actually trying but the parents that just ignore the children running around 

      Let’s take a scenario that could happen . Kids running around a pub . Pub serves food . Waiter or waitress takes food to a customer , kid runs into the waiter or waitress they potentially drop and plates and shards fall on the floor and potentially the child . The same if a massive mess is left on the floor . If the time don’t get time to sort it because they are doing like 20 other things that food on the floor potentially is a slip hazard .  It maybe a maybe case but surely It’s for the safety of the children and even everyone else right ?

    30. Well to protect the kids clearly we need to start banning Pubs, there’s no other solution.

      /s

      Most of our problems as a country would be fixed if parents weren’t so utterly useless and received penalties for badly behaved children instead of turning into a nanny state.

    31. It’s bonkers how many people go out getting pissed and let their kids run riot while they do so. Whatever happened to engaging with them, teaching them new experiences and just enjoying being with them. It pisses me off when I see people do this. Take them yo a fucking zoo or something and have a conversation with them.

    32. SatisfactionMoney426 on

      Easy solution would be lockers – like at the gym. Would be ok for smaller kids. Give them a ‘phone and they wouldn’t mind…

    33. Ignoring the debate itself it feels like this has now just become one of those evergreen seasonal topics the media falls back on to plug staffing gaps. 

      – “Muslim Councillors in Birmingham Want to Cancel Christmas” 
      – “Cowardly BBC Accused of Censoring Fairytale of New York.”
      – “So-Called Winter Wonderland a Car Park Staffed By Drunken Elves.”

      This comes around so often now it’s just part of the summer beat.

    34. SpaceMassive3080 on

      Pubs should ban children, children has no reason to be in pubs, if you have kids too young to be left alone though shit stay home until they’re old enough to stay home alone.

    35. Any unruly person (regardless of age) and any person enabling or encouraging them should be banned. This isnt about who or specifically targeting anyone, it should be about safety.

    36. PackageOk4947 on

      And yet we allow adults to get so absolutely wrecked, cause scenes, fight, piss and vomit everywhere? Yet a few unruly kids, oh the shock and horror. I used to work in a hotel and had to deal with this on a weekly basis, because the hotel refused to stop telling people the bar 24 hours.