Couldn’t possibly dump the private providers, they do such an amazing job
Fun fact it’s how Rudd got rich, his wife owned one of the scummy services
cuddlegoop on
So in true Albo government fashion, it sounds like they’re taking something where there’s a mountain of evidence that it’s harmful and badly needs an overhaul, and tweaking it to make it a bit less harmful. It’s better than making it worse but come on, Australia can do better than this.
NKE01 on
>On the lower end of support, people pushed onto the first tier would have access to a digital service to help find a job.
So basically a government version of Seek?
MinimumYoga on
Looking for employment is a complicated mess. Looking for staff is a complicated mess. I bet the govt just adds more complexity.
kar2988 on
This is actually sensible. We can’t have a system where a liberal govt privatises a govt service, and then a labor govt comes along and re-nationalises the same thing down the line. In a way, this is peak neoliberalism where marginal redactions are done while the privatisation is not wholly reversed, while on the other hand you need these incremental changes in order to ensure those who are being serviced by this scheme don’t feel suddenly disadvantaged or are forced to comply with a system that’s half baked. Incrementally moving the needle is sensible I reckon.
lh4lolz on
Some small tinkering and for the next few weeks we’re going to hear that these radical changes are going to destroy the economy.
Deadlament on
Re-arranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
KRR7 on
All this already exists to some extent, and was actually built by Scomo’s Liberal government believe it or not.
I’m sure they’re tuning things to make it better, but it’s far from an overhaul and isn’t really changing how things work. It honestly sounds like one of the smallest “overhauls” to have happened in decades.
SeengignPaipes on
The article says “One of the key findings of the 2023 inquiry was that the current system encouraged job agencies to place people into any available job, rather than one suited to their skills or circumstances.”. I faced this when i was with Mission Australia who treated me like absolute shite and would completely ignore all of my health issues and needs and requirements to throw me into any job that they can so they can collect whatever commission they get for putting people into work.
Womb8t on
Piss off the service provider rort and pay people an ample amount to live on while they seek employment.
CheeseFactory74 on
Nice news but I’ll believe it when I see it. The providers have been useless for me. It’s: “Let’s re-write your resume”, then they say they’ll call around and find me something, they find nothing after a month, the employee then quits working there. Meet new employee, “let’s re-write your resume” and on it goes. I hope this fixes the annoying high turn over rate and unproductive busywork
Equivalent-Wealth-63 on
>The Community and Public Service Union (CPSU) today said it was disappointed by the reform proposal, which it said failed to overhaul the privatisation model.
The reforms sound a lot like a modernised version of the CES days minus having the CES itself. I think for all its flaws there are many who are nostalgic for it given the issues people have had with the private providers.
Mephobius12 on
Doesn’t the system require like 5% unemployment? Or did I say the quiet part out loud?
binglesthemagiccat on
Seems like basically nothing changes? There are already three tiers.
Forbearssake on
A lot of the people on Job seeker are already working but are underemployed due to circumstances (carers or lack of full time work in area or homeless or studying etc) beyond their control, not quite sick or disabled enough for a pension or have a drug/alcohol problems so no one wants to employ them.
Until these things are acknowledged and dealt with instead of playing jobseekers off as bludgers nothings going to improve.
MostOfYouAreLame on
Last jobs I went for were factory hand 150 people applied and a cleaner at a hospital 200 people applied, this is in regional Victoria, these changes won’t do shit if there aren’t enough jobs
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good on them, this is long overdue
Couldn’t possibly dump the private providers, they do such an amazing job
Fun fact it’s how Rudd got rich, his wife owned one of the scummy services
So in true Albo government fashion, it sounds like they’re taking something where there’s a mountain of evidence that it’s harmful and badly needs an overhaul, and tweaking it to make it a bit less harmful. It’s better than making it worse but come on, Australia can do better than this.
>On the lower end of support, people pushed onto the first tier would have access to a digital service to help find a job.
So basically a government version of Seek?
Looking for employment is a complicated mess. Looking for staff is a complicated mess. I bet the govt just adds more complexity.
This is actually sensible. We can’t have a system where a liberal govt privatises a govt service, and then a labor govt comes along and re-nationalises the same thing down the line. In a way, this is peak neoliberalism where marginal redactions are done while the privatisation is not wholly reversed, while on the other hand you need these incremental changes in order to ensure those who are being serviced by this scheme don’t feel suddenly disadvantaged or are forced to comply with a system that’s half baked. Incrementally moving the needle is sensible I reckon.
Some small tinkering and for the next few weeks we’re going to hear that these radical changes are going to destroy the economy.
Re-arranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
All this already exists to some extent, and was actually built by Scomo’s Liberal government believe it or not.
I’m sure they’re tuning things to make it better, but it’s far from an overhaul and isn’t really changing how things work. It honestly sounds like one of the smallest “overhauls” to have happened in decades.
The article says “One of the key findings of the 2023 inquiry was that the current system encouraged job agencies to place people into any available job, rather than one suited to their skills or circumstances.”. I faced this when i was with Mission Australia who treated me like absolute shite and would completely ignore all of my health issues and needs and requirements to throw me into any job that they can so they can collect whatever commission they get for putting people into work.
Piss off the service provider rort and pay people an ample amount to live on while they seek employment.
Nice news but I’ll believe it when I see it. The providers have been useless for me. It’s: “Let’s re-write your resume”, then they say they’ll call around and find me something, they find nothing after a month, the employee then quits working there. Meet new employee, “let’s re-write your resume” and on it goes. I hope this fixes the annoying high turn over rate and unproductive busywork
>The Community and Public Service Union (CPSU) today said it was disappointed by the reform proposal, which it said failed to overhaul the privatisation model.
The reforms sound a lot like a modernised version of the CES days minus having the CES itself. I think for all its flaws there are many who are nostalgic for it given the issues people have had with the private providers.
Doesn’t the system require like 5% unemployment? Or did I say the quiet part out loud?
Seems like basically nothing changes? There are already three tiers.
A lot of the people on Job seeker are already working but are underemployed due to circumstances (carers or lack of full time work in area or homeless or studying etc) beyond their control, not quite sick or disabled enough for a pension or have a drug/alcohol problems so no one wants to employ them.
Until these things are acknowledged and dealt with instead of playing jobseekers off as bludgers nothings going to improve.
Last jobs I went for were factory hand 150 people applied and a cleaner at a hospital 200 people applied, this is in regional Victoria, these changes won’t do shit if there aren’t enough jobs