Oxford Union president faces resignation calls after hailing Hamas as ‘future heroes’

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    1. So this is the lady that replaced the previous president who was booted after celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death?

      The Oxford Union sure does know how to pick them.

    2. Tartan_Samurai on

      *In a conversation about Hamas with other students on the group that has been seen by the BBC, Elrayess said: “Any resistance group will inevitably be deemed a ‘terrorist’ organisation by the West until they achieve their liberation (by which time, they’ll be lauded as heroes, as history has repeatedly proven).”*

      *In a later message, she said: “I think the severity of resistance is often proportional to the severity of oppression.*

      *”This is not to justify anything, but just to point out that it’s quite rich to allow for decades of systematic oppression and massacres, only to act shocked when the resistance movement responds with proportional severity.”*

      *After being criticised in the group for this comment, she said: “In fact, some would argue it’s less than proportional.”*

      *She then added: “Proportional does not mean ‘right’ by the way, just that [you] can’t be shocked that it happened.”*

    3. Dedsnotdead on

      From the article:

      “Arwa Elrayess, the first Palestinian to lead the prestigious debating society, described Hamas’s October 7 attack as “proportional” in leaked messages from a student WhatsApp group”.

      Oxford Union with its finger on the pulse as ever /s

    4. Inevitable-Regret411 on

      I have a particular dislike for idiots like this, since they make it so much harder for everyone else to take the Palestinian genocide issue seriously and just give ammunition to their opponents. 

    5. Brexit-Broke-Britain on

      In the period when the former colonies were fighting for their independence from the UK and other colonial powers, there were many terrorists (as designated by the colonial authorities). These ‘terrorists’ went on to become members of or leaders of their governments and were often recognised as heroes for their role in the independence struggle. .

    6. > In the messages, Elrayess argued that “any resistance group will inevitably be deemed a ‘terrorist’ organization by the West until they achieve their liberation, by which time they’ll be lauded as heroes, as history has repeatedly proven,” citing the IRA and the Palestine Liberation Organization as examples.

      Well, she’s not really wrong that history is generally kind to victors and if Hamas were successful in establishing control over the area they would probably at some point start being talked about as liberators rather than terrorists.

      It’s still a rather silly thing to say in reference to a widely considered evil group, knowing such a statement could easily be taken as support for said group.

      Also not sure about her examples, are the IRA lauded as heroes by anyone outside of fervent Irish republicans and cosplaying Americans?

    7. Wow! Rape as a weapon of war is “proportional” ?!?!

      These fucking people. We really should listen when they tell us who they are.

    8. Moronic student University Groups and supporting terrorist groups wutta shock.

    9. sober_disposition on

      The problem with Oxford students is they think they’re so clever that they think they’re always right, whatever idiotic opinions their childish minds latch onto. 

    10. Confident_Resolution on

      ITT- a bunch of people woth absolutely no connection to Oxford or its student union getting their knickers in a twist over some edgy comments from a student in a private setting.

      What a nothing burger.

    11. BusyBeeBridgette on

      Damn, no wonder Hasan Piker wanted to speak there. Terrorists lovers unite, I guess.