“96 percent of those who sought help after eating the mushroom reported seeing little people. The clinical term is Lilliputian hallucination, after the six-inch inhabitants of Gulliver’s Travels.
The striking result is that Lanmaoa asiatica lacks any known hallucinogenic chemical signature. The team mined its genome and searched for the biosynthetic gene clusters that produce [psilocybin](https://psychedelics.co.uk/substance/psilocybin) in Psilocybe mushrooms and ibotenic acid in Amanita muscaria. Neither was there.
Whatever L. asiatica is making, it is doing so via a pathway no one has seen before.”
DeterminedThrowaway on
Woah, that’s actually incredibly exciting! It sounds like we’re about to discover a new compound or drug pathway from it
linxdev on
I’ve seen those people walking across my dresser after taking Ambien. That was the last time I did that.
Constant-Skill-7133 on
This is interesting, but I remain skeptical of the specific claims. I definitely do not buy that 96% of people are having the same hallucinatory experience. That sounds like some combination of cultural bias and hospital coding.
fsactual on
For what it’s worth I’ve seen those same little people hallucinations when taking ambien.
lancerevo98 on
Basically the show Common Side Effects
Laserdollarz on
Watch it be a metabolite from some bacteria it hosts inside or something.
S1DC on
RIP Alexander Shulgin. You would have known what it was.
bradass42 on
Given it is thought that the effects of psychedelics are highly influenced by suggestions, e.g., “set and setting”, it seems highly likely to me that what’s being described here is a consequence of local culture and the suggestion that the hallucination will involve “little people”.
What would make this extremely, almost absurdly interesting, would be if someone could conduct a controlled study, wherein participants are screened for a familiarity with substance, any themes or suggestions around it.
I.e., find folks that have never heard of it, never have heard of the “little people” hallucination, and are willing to experience a psychedelic phenomenon. Then give it to them, and survey their experience.
Then if enough people from *that* group independently report seeing little people… wellllllllllllllll
Ntroepy on
“I see ***tiny*** people. They don’t know their ***tiny*** people.”
– Cole Sear
ElanMorinMetal on
I did my PhD, in part, studying natural products. This doesn’t surprise me at all; all available data suggests we have only scratched the surface of understanding how many bioactive compounds are produced by nature.
Matgol on
Huh. Honestly, I’ve even seen these when on ambien.
Ntroepy on
96% of users reporting the same vision points more toward ***shared expectations*** influencing the experience than a purely spontaneous hallucination.
Maybe it’s a popular description of the high. Or maybe the first question on questionnaire is “*Did you see tiny people?*”
CFCYYZ on
Hold me closer, tiny dancer
pixel8knuckle on
Would be wild if it was changing what our eyes could see, like the way ultraviolet rays work, and its simply revealing something we cant physically view or feel under normal circumstances.
wynonna_burp on
We don’t know what people got up to in the past!
SelarDorr on
Considering the psychoactive potential of Lanmaoa asiatica has always been in question, seeing as how it is widely consumed in Czechia with practically no reports of psychological effects, i am completely unsurprised.
“It contains no known psychedelic”
inaccurate statement. They did not assess the chemical composition of the mushroom, they looked at its genome for genes known to be related to psilocybin and ibotenic acid biosynthesis. These are only two compounds they screened for at a genomic level.
DingleSayer on
My mother mentioned miniature people walking between books on her bookcase when she was around 13, so it wasn’t a childish fantasy. She explicitly states she saw them and brought everyone’s attention to them but theyd basically disappeared between the books. I always found it unbelievable but perhaps it has to do something with this mechanism?
mabus42 on
Some of us see the figures without needing to consume the mushroom. Just sayin’
PANZERKAT on
People got so tiny the scientists couldn’t see them
churningpacket on
One time I put on these sunglasses and all the newscasters were, like, skeletons, man. My milk said OBEY.
Marty-G70 on
I’m guessing there’s a conversion process happening within the body that causes these visions and not so much due to what’s in the mushroom itself directly
splash_one on
Simple humans: We cannot measure it, therefore it must not exist.
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“96 percent of those who sought help after eating the mushroom reported seeing little people. The clinical term is Lilliputian hallucination, after the six-inch inhabitants of Gulliver’s Travels.
The striking result is that Lanmaoa asiatica lacks any known hallucinogenic chemical signature. The team mined its genome and searched for the biosynthetic gene clusters that produce [psilocybin](https://psychedelics.co.uk/substance/psilocybin) in Psilocybe mushrooms and ibotenic acid in Amanita muscaria. Neither was there.
Whatever L. asiatica is making, it is doing so via a pathway no one has seen before.”
Woah, that’s actually incredibly exciting! It sounds like we’re about to discover a new compound or drug pathway from it
I’ve seen those people walking across my dresser after taking Ambien. That was the last time I did that.
This is interesting, but I remain skeptical of the specific claims. I definitely do not buy that 96% of people are having the same hallucinatory experience. That sounds like some combination of cultural bias and hospital coding.
For what it’s worth I’ve seen those same little people hallucinations when taking ambien.
Basically the show Common Side Effects
Watch it be a metabolite from some bacteria it hosts inside or something.
RIP Alexander Shulgin. You would have known what it was.
Given it is thought that the effects of psychedelics are highly influenced by suggestions, e.g., “set and setting”, it seems highly likely to me that what’s being described here is a consequence of local culture and the suggestion that the hallucination will involve “little people”.
What would make this extremely, almost absurdly interesting, would be if someone could conduct a controlled study, wherein participants are screened for a familiarity with substance, any themes or suggestions around it.
I.e., find folks that have never heard of it, never have heard of the “little people” hallucination, and are willing to experience a psychedelic phenomenon. Then give it to them, and survey their experience.
Then if enough people from *that* group independently report seeing little people… wellllllllllllllll
“I see ***tiny*** people. They don’t know their ***tiny*** people.”
– Cole Sear
I did my PhD, in part, studying natural products. This doesn’t surprise me at all; all available data suggests we have only scratched the surface of understanding how many bioactive compounds are produced by nature.
Huh. Honestly, I’ve even seen these when on ambien.
96% of users reporting the same vision points more toward ***shared expectations*** influencing the experience than a purely spontaneous hallucination.
Maybe it’s a popular description of the high. Or maybe the first question on questionnaire is “*Did you see tiny people?*”
Hold me closer, tiny dancer
Would be wild if it was changing what our eyes could see, like the way ultraviolet rays work, and its simply revealing something we cant physically view or feel under normal circumstances.
We don’t know what people got up to in the past!
Considering the psychoactive potential of Lanmaoa asiatica has always been in question, seeing as how it is widely consumed in Czechia with practically no reports of psychological effects, i am completely unsurprised.
“It contains no known psychedelic”
inaccurate statement. They did not assess the chemical composition of the mushroom, they looked at its genome for genes known to be related to psilocybin and ibotenic acid biosynthesis. These are only two compounds they screened for at a genomic level.
My mother mentioned miniature people walking between books on her bookcase when she was around 13, so it wasn’t a childish fantasy. She explicitly states she saw them and brought everyone’s attention to them but theyd basically disappeared between the books. I always found it unbelievable but perhaps it has to do something with this mechanism?
Some of us see the figures without needing to consume the mushroom. Just sayin’
People got so tiny the scientists couldn’t see them
One time I put on these sunglasses and all the newscasters were, like, skeletons, man. My milk said OBEY.
I’m guessing there’s a conversion process happening within the body that causes these visions and not so much due to what’s in the mushroom itself directly
Simple humans: We cannot measure it, therefore it must not exist.