Home Office flying of Pride flag was ‘monstrous thing’, says Braverman

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    1. AnxiousCells on

      She is so hateful. Flying a pride flag is “monstrous”? The Tories need to stop the “lunatic woke virus”?

      I really hope she doesn’t become the new Tory leader. I’ll sign a petition to call for her expulsion out of the party.

      Disgusting.

    2. Transsexual_Menace on

      >“What the Progress flag says to me is one monstrous thing: that I was a member of a government that presided over the mutilation of children in our hospitals and from our schools,” she said

      Posted this response on /r/ukpolitics as I’m so tired of the bullshit from the right and from deranged ‘gender critical’ activists

      (a) Trans surgeries never have been done in the UK on anyone under the age of 18. Theoretically, there *could* have been the possibility of trans guys getting top surgery at 17, but delays made this impossible anyway. Braverman is just straight up lying.

      (b) Trans surgeries are not ‘mutilation’ – years ago I used to just hear this rhetoric from the far right, but now, thanks to most of a decade of moral panic, it’s commonplace and it’s fucking disgusting.

      (c) people are **sooo** worried about trans kids, but when you point out to them that the “uptick in deaths” for trans kids waiting for help, you don’t give a shit. it doesn’t matter than detransition is being shown to be increasingly rare..or that detransition half the time means ‘desisting’ or that a good proportion (1/2 according to one survey) end up retransitioning..or that people sometimes detransition because of the hostile environment from most of a decade of moral panic. etc etc

      (d) Also, whilst I’m here, the Cass report, as awful as it was, **did not suggest stopping puberty blockers**, it recommended caution and research attached to its prescription. It was NHS England and Victoria Atkins who overreacted.

    3. MasterLogic on

      I will never understand why people are offended by other people’s choices. It’s like modern day nazism. 

    4. I’m gay and it annoys me. Just no need for rainbow flags fucking everywhere for all of June.

      Put it on the gay bars so you know it’s a gay bar. That’s it. Don’t need it flying in my face everywhere I turn, that includes you NHS with your ambulances, letter headed paper, zebra crosses and got knows what else whilst going rainbow and great cost screaming underfunded.

    5. Homophobia is on the rise at the moment – I’ve really noticed a shift towards more conservative attitudes towards LGBTQ+ communities in the school I work in recently.

      Braverman expressing these thoughts certainly does not help moving towards equality. What a horrid person she is.

    6. I will repeat what I wrote last time this was posted
      *Imagine thinking you’re fit to govern – and losing your shit over a flag that represents some of your constituents.*

    7. Ok-Comparison6923 on

      She demonstrates daily in her comments what a monstrous thing actually is. I thought hate speech had consequences?

    8. When people question the need for events like Pride when ‘they already have equality’, then you can simply link them to speeches like this. Be in no doubt, there are people who would take those hard fought rights away immediately if they had the power to do so.

    9. Cynical_Classicist on

      I can think of a few monstrous things that were in the Home Office…

    10. People who are pro-Israel (genocide) you are on the same side of the argument as this woman

    11. Tommy-ctid-mancblue on

      Keep it going Cruella. You’re condemning the Tories to years in opposition. Perfect

    12. Remember the brief window between Cameron and May where even the Tories knew spouting shit like this was beyond the pale. I miss that. The content of her speech is even worse and more deluded than the soundbite in the headline.

      She was addressing US nut job Republicans so I guess she felt she was in like minded company.

    13. BobBobBobBobBobDave on

      She thinks that “the silent majority” agree with her too. And that the reason the Tories got absolutely walloped was that they weren’t right wing enough.

      If they do make her leader, she is going to get a chance to find out that she is wrong, and I would almost relish it, except that it will give her a loudspeaker to keep broadcasting this soer of hate for the next few years.

    14. Thankfully she’s irrelevant to the country now, although I wonder how her constituents feel about her hate, do they have LGBTQ+ people in Fareham? Maybe she managed to move them all out?

    15. Relative-Dig-7321 on

       Hey everyone, they’re not in power any more we can ignore culture war Braverman. 

    16. The idea that people undergo a hugely difficult and life altering set of surgeries and hormone treatments to specifically wind you up is bizarre. It really isn’t all about you, Braverman.

    17. AnalThermometer on

      Actually pretty amazing to see the shift in culture war politics since about 2016. Labour now have an almost entirely white cabinet and aren’t mentioning it at all, while all the diverse established politicians are in the Conservatives and on endless anti-woke crusades against other “minorities”. Truly bizarro world.

    18. cragglerock93 on

      Continuing to focus on the big issues. I’m so fucking sick of these people.

    19. snippity_snip on

      She’s such trash. Desperately trying to drag British politics into the Culture Wars sewer.

    20. Trying to be decent to your fellow human is “monstrous” and “lunacy”?

      She’s fucking bonkers.

    21. ExpressAffect3262 on

      Honestly, I feel things like this should just be kept out of it.

      Government buildings should just fly the union jack & that’s it and keep it as it’s sole purpose.

      Then articles like this and stupid petty arguments wouldn’t exist.

    22. sweetsimpleandkind on

      So she’s decided to take the “telling -ists and -phobes what they want to hear” grift to America and cash in there. Makes sense. There’s a lot more money to be made on it there.

      “Seemingly, as ever, it is Conservatives who are to blame” she laments, decrying the public’s tendency to blame conservatives for society’s ills after 14 years of Conservative governance. But she knows it’s a load of nonsense. That kind of thing is there to fuel the perpetual victim complex of America’s most deplorable so they will hand over their cash in exchange for the validation.

      Happy grifting, Cruella!

    23. Agreeable_Falcon1044 on

      Well let’s all be positive on this wonderful tuesday…this all but ensures that only the most swivel eyed will support her for leader. In fact, it may even lead to a centrist removing the whip once they rattle through several far right choices. The tories have already lost the next election, so it might be worth pulling the thistle before it spreads….

      She’s a poison. A very nasty one at that…but, unlike Jenrick, a very stupid one. On a day Sunak wheeled out Johnson in a final throw of the dice, she buried the party and got the front page! Let’s enjoy her stupidity like a crazy guy screaming at pigeons in the park. She will never be close to power again. Happy thoughts 🙂

    24. Just a reminder that since last Thursday, she is a powerless irrelevance in this country.

      Enjoy it.

    25. > “What the Progress flag says to me is one monstrous thing: that I was a member of a government that presided over the mutilation of children in our hospitals and from our schools,” she said.

      Somehow I doubt she holds the same opinion about circumcised kids, pathetic

    26. Of course they will elect her as leader. This is the party that decided that Liz Truss was the one for them. Acting stupidly is baked in.

      Braverman is a hateful person and she brings shame on the Tory party and herself every time she opens her mouth.

      She will say or do anything for a sniff of power. She has zero morals and if she does get in as leader of the Tory party, she will destroy it once and for all. They will absolutely deserve it too.

    27. Thankfully off she can fuck. No real power for hopefully a generation to the point she quits before the tories get back in

    28. TheThreeGabis on

      Why do people care so fucking much about where people put it behind closed doors.

      We have more important things to do be doing than worrying about two men getting busy, especially since it’s been happening for thousands upon thousands of years and it isn’t going to stop happening.

      Some girl wants to dress like a fella, not a big deal. Some guy believes he was born a woman and wants to transition, so what. Why do people have to have an opinion on absolutely everything these days? And more importantly, it’s *nothing to do with you*.

      Let people get on with their lives, honestly. If this is what you’re worried about, go get a hobby.

    29. UnlikelyExperience on

      Why are we still hearing from this subhuman failed politician risk to national security grifting stupid cunt?

    30. ChocoRamyeon on

      So here we go, a good year at least of Braverman getting all her toxic thoughts amplified by the press.

    31. ManOnNoMission on

      An if anyone knows anything of “monstrous things” it’s Braverman, the monster.