Submission statement: How do you think advancements in AI will impact the job market? For tasks humans currently perform, how long might it take for AI to surpass human capabilities?
If Universal Basic Income (UBI) is a potential solution, how would it be implemented? What about nations that didn’t develop the AI technology? How can we prevent a significant concentration of wealth and the resulting inequality and societal issues?
xantub on
They will rehire them in a few months when they realize AI wasn’t all what they thought it would be.
yearofthesponge on
I hope the government makes filing automatic, bypassing these parasitic companies and making them obsolete.
djdefekt on
Ahh just what the world needs, hallucinating accountants getting you in trouble with the IRS. It’s cheaper I guess?
skynil on
No one’s actually firing people for AI. During the covid wave, plenty of businesses ramped up headcount in anticipation of mainly three events;
1. 100% digital reach will become a reality. Customers will spend most of their time on the net and phone, so by creating enough digital touch points, firms will be able to reach out to customers more and more. What they forgot to take into account is that digital fatigue will set in and eventually customers will go back to their lives when the pandemic gets over.
2. Remote work will become a true possibility. However, the point of interest was that employees will take a pay cut in order to enjoy the flexibility to work for home. What they forgot to factor in is that given the economic condition, even remote workers will not work for lower pay for long. Plenty of them would start returning to the office and demand higher pays.
3. Customers would spend more money on digital channels compared to the other avenues like tourism, dining, logistics as work for home becomes stay at home. That also didn’t work out as the pandemic got over and we’re back to where we were before 2020.
Given the projections all started failing, most firms have had to relook at their strat plans to make adjustments. Service providers also got impacted as the businesses started cutting costs. It’s a chain of events which is resetting the business world back to pre 2020 times. The job cuts are mainly due to that. No one is investing in AI that seriously so as to replace 1800 people. Most use cases are pilots and don’t cost that much to run compared to the MPC.
They sucked that bad with 1800 employees? Lol. A bot really can’t do worse.
SpankyMcFlych on
I wonder how they’re dealing with the fact that AI lies constantly about everything and they can’t seem to get it to stop.
biCamelKase on
I hope they pivot to not existing anymore. (I feel bad for the workers though.)
aphaits on
Feels like government contracts and subsidies should rely on how much local workers you employ.
jaxnmarko on
Welcome to the Future of Jobs/not having jobs. Maybe we can get A.I. to make the tax codes simpler to begin with…. and close the loopholes for the rich that pay the Congresspeople that pass the laws written by…… well… I understand the most common work other than being Congresspeople was their being former lawyers, right? So either they suck at writing laws, or the carefully construct laws that provide loopholes for the rich to begin with. They can write ironclad contracts….. but not laws without loopholes?
The_WolfieOne on
Well that cements my never using their services again.
joe0400 on
This will probably backfire on TurboTax, and that will hopefully be a good thing.
thisfilmkid on
I fired TurboTaxes last year when they raised their prices. This company has lost so many customers that now it’s shifting to A.I to replace employees.
SunGregMoon on
It will be hilarious when they close down because AI causes millions of errors in tax returns. When AI can’t find an answer, it just makes something up… Thats what you want in your tax preparer.
haloweenek on
> For decades, Intuit has lobbied hard against any free online service for filing taxes, even going so far as to say it’s bad for Black people and misleading customers on who’s eligible for its own free version of TurboTax.
This is ridiculous. You need to pay money for filing taxes in US ?!?!?!
Undernown on
I can’t fathom what value AI can bring to tax filings. It’s a static problem with limited options and exact values, machine learning isn’t going to have any benefit there. Once the business logic is set up, any user should be able to fill it like a static form.
Those employees were there for people with tech illiteracy file their TurboTax through a phonecall etc. Or help people who were having trouble eith the form. You really think some techilliterate grandma is going to be able to communicate with an AI?!
Awkward_Pangolin3254 on
Maybe now they can pivot away from lobbying Congress to keep our dinosaur of a tax code alive, too
tedead on
I stopped using TurboTax years ago when I was just giving my damn refund to them just to use the software.
Silent-Escape6615 on
Can we all just ditch shitty fraudulent turbo tax?
Use the IRS free file if your taxes are simple. I found out last year that HR blocks website is SOOOO much easier than turbo tax. For the last two years, I’ve had to individually file state returns for myself and my wife because TurboTax couldn’t figure out how to file in two different states. I had to work with each states revenue cabinet to understand their tax forms. This year I had to file in three different states, but was able to do it all online with HR Block.
Intuit sucks. Make them pay for it.
Smack1984 on
It’s way worse. Intuit purchased T-sheets around 2019 from a Boise Idaho start up. T-sheets was THE place to work in Boise, with a great culture, amazing benefits and overall fantastic leadership. Over the next 5 years Intuit gutted it, forcing most of the leadership out and making everything incredibly corporate. Still a decent job in Boise, but the culture was gone.
Fast forward to Thursday. Intuit closes all of Boise in its lay off. This wasn’t just a 10% reduction across the board, this was a closure of 2 full office locations and laying off everyone who worked there.
Then they release a press statement saying that these were all “people who were failing to meet expectations” so that there share prices don’t drop. Now the 500 plus devs that worked there are struggling to find jobs because some recruiters see Intuit as their most recent area and think they are under performers.
Fuck Intuit.
Thieveslanding on
Soon enough people are going to realize that the primary method by which companies will make more money using AI is by firing people. Bubble is gonna pop
jonny_mtown7 on
Good. They were making shitty soft ware. I will never use Turbo Tax again. They were better 20 years ago. They can find better jobs
blackshagreen on
Ah yes, the promise of AI, coming to a location near you. Freeing the workers from day to day drudgery, so they can meditate in the shade.
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Submission statement: How do you think advancements in AI will impact the job market? For tasks humans currently perform, how long might it take for AI to surpass human capabilities?
If Universal Basic Income (UBI) is a potential solution, how would it be implemented? What about nations that didn’t develop the AI technology? How can we prevent a significant concentration of wealth and the resulting inequality and societal issues?
They will rehire them in a few months when they realize AI wasn’t all what they thought it would be.
I hope the government makes filing automatic, bypassing these parasitic companies and making them obsolete.
Ahh just what the world needs, hallucinating accountants getting you in trouble with the IRS. It’s cheaper I guess?
No one’s actually firing people for AI. During the covid wave, plenty of businesses ramped up headcount in anticipation of mainly three events;
1. 100% digital reach will become a reality. Customers will spend most of their time on the net and phone, so by creating enough digital touch points, firms will be able to reach out to customers more and more. What they forgot to take into account is that digital fatigue will set in and eventually customers will go back to their lives when the pandemic gets over.
2. Remote work will become a true possibility. However, the point of interest was that employees will take a pay cut in order to enjoy the flexibility to work for home. What they forgot to factor in is that given the economic condition, even remote workers will not work for lower pay for long. Plenty of them would start returning to the office and demand higher pays.
3. Customers would spend more money on digital channels compared to the other avenues like tourism, dining, logistics as work for home becomes stay at home. That also didn’t work out as the pandemic got over and we’re back to where we were before 2020.
Given the projections all started failing, most firms have had to relook at their strat plans to make adjustments. Service providers also got impacted as the businesses started cutting costs. It’s a chain of events which is resetting the business world back to pre 2020 times. The job cuts are mainly due to that. No one is investing in AI that seriously so as to replace 1800 people. Most use cases are pilots and don’t cost that much to run compared to the MPC.
The IRS offers its own FREE tax software.
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-free-file-is-now-available-for-the-2024-filing-season
They sucked that bad with 1800 employees? Lol. A bot really can’t do worse.
I wonder how they’re dealing with the fact that AI lies constantly about everything and they can’t seem to get it to stop.
I hope they pivot to not existing anymore. (I feel bad for the workers though.)
Feels like government contracts and subsidies should rely on how much local workers you employ.
Welcome to the Future of Jobs/not having jobs. Maybe we can get A.I. to make the tax codes simpler to begin with…. and close the loopholes for the rich that pay the Congresspeople that pass the laws written by…… well… I understand the most common work other than being Congresspeople was their being former lawyers, right? So either they suck at writing laws, or the carefully construct laws that provide loopholes for the rich to begin with. They can write ironclad contracts….. but not laws without loopholes?
Well that cements my never using their services again.
This will probably backfire on TurboTax, and that will hopefully be a good thing.
I fired TurboTaxes last year when they raised their prices. This company has lost so many customers that now it’s shifting to A.I to replace employees.
It will be hilarious when they close down because AI causes millions of errors in tax returns. When AI can’t find an answer, it just makes something up… Thats what you want in your tax preparer.
> For decades, Intuit has lobbied hard against any free online service for filing taxes, even going so far as to say it’s bad for Black people and misleading customers on who’s eligible for its own free version of TurboTax.
This is ridiculous. You need to pay money for filing taxes in US ?!?!?!
I can’t fathom what value AI can bring to tax filings. It’s a static problem with limited options and exact values, machine learning isn’t going to have any benefit there. Once the business logic is set up, any user should be able to fill it like a static form.
Those employees were there for people with tech illiteracy file their TurboTax through a phonecall etc. Or help people who were having trouble eith the form. You really think some techilliterate grandma is going to be able to communicate with an AI?!
Maybe now they can pivot away from lobbying Congress to keep our dinosaur of a tax code alive, too
I stopped using TurboTax years ago when I was just giving my damn refund to them just to use the software.
Can we all just ditch shitty fraudulent turbo tax?
Use the IRS free file if your taxes are simple. I found out last year that HR blocks website is SOOOO much easier than turbo tax. For the last two years, I’ve had to individually file state returns for myself and my wife because TurboTax couldn’t figure out how to file in two different states. I had to work with each states revenue cabinet to understand their tax forms. This year I had to file in three different states, but was able to do it all online with HR Block.
Intuit sucks. Make them pay for it.
It’s way worse. Intuit purchased T-sheets around 2019 from a Boise Idaho start up. T-sheets was THE place to work in Boise, with a great culture, amazing benefits and overall fantastic leadership. Over the next 5 years Intuit gutted it, forcing most of the leadership out and making everything incredibly corporate. Still a decent job in Boise, but the culture was gone.
Fast forward to Thursday. Intuit closes all of Boise in its lay off. This wasn’t just a 10% reduction across the board, this was a closure of 2 full office locations and laying off everyone who worked there.
Then they release a press statement saying that these were all “people who were failing to meet expectations” so that there share prices don’t drop. Now the 500 plus devs that worked there are struggling to find jobs because some recruiters see Intuit as their most recent area and think they are under performers.
Fuck Intuit.
Soon enough people are going to realize that the primary method by which companies will make more money using AI is by firing people. Bubble is gonna pop
Good. They were making shitty soft ware. I will never use Turbo Tax again. They were better 20 years ago. They can find better jobs
Ah yes, the promise of AI, coming to a location near you. Freeing the workers from day to day drudgery, so they can meditate in the shade.