An interesting choice for foreign secretary at the very least. However he does appear capable of biting his lip now in power, so perhaps there is hope.
The_Mysterious_WAM on
Hardly the actions of a foreign secretary with our countries best interests at heart. Like it or not trump is likely to win the US election and as such we will need to pursue close ties to him – this statement made by lammy is completely in contrast to kier starmers statements
BobMonkhaus on
Well the good news is if uk/USA relations aren’t cosy we might not be dragged into the next war.
Ambitious-Reach7377 on
So embarrassing to have this clown as foreign secretary.
InformationMaster793 on
He is not wrong, but I do wonder what his comments will do to UK-US relations when Trump inevitably wins the next (& probably every following) election.
spackysteve on
Trump says nonsense shit all the time, I’m sure he can appreciate Lammy exaggerating a bit (Trump is definitely a racist, not sure I would call him a neo-nazi though)
nocountryforcoldham on
Truth matters.
Say it with me: tr*mp is a neo-nazi sociopath, convicted criminal, a rapist, a racist, a fraudulent snakeoil salesman, a pimp, besties with epstein, a puppet of putin with the intellectual acuity of a doormat
corbynista2029 on
>He told Sky News: “You are going to struggle to find any politician who didn’t have things to say about Donald Trump back in the day.”
I don’t know how this is David Lammy “defending” what he said? He’s not wrong obviously, but I feel like the headline is a bit inflammatory. It’s not like Lammy is reiterating what he said as a backbencher. Even David Cameron called Trump “divisive, stupid and wrong” and “protectionist, xenophobic, misogynistic” in his memoir.
NuPNua on
Trump chose a running mate who described him as “Americas Hitler” in the past, I’m sure he’ll get over what Lammy said just as quickly.
Original_Success3895 on
If he can’t maintain neutral relations whilst dealing with our largest allies then David Lammy shouldn’t be in the role of foreign secretary at all.
Everyone else with a job speaking to awkward people manages it, and get fired if they broadcast themselves in public letting their true feelings slip.
This should be particularly the case for a role as vital as foreign secretary.
PrometheusIsFree on
David Lammy is intelligent, honest and a man of principle, however, it appears he needs to understand that part of his new role as British Foreign Secretary is to be ‘diplomatic’. However, this is similar that which Trump’s new running mare has said in the recent past. Trump and his cohorts are fully aware of Lanny’s past remarks, and probably don’t care what he thinks or says in the slightest. Trump will do whatever he wants, whatever anyone else thinks, except maybe Putin.
__bobbysox on
It’s the first bit of truth we’ve heard from a government in 14 years
McFuzzyChipmunk on
Can’t say I disagree with him but the issue is that if Trump comes to power, which is looking increasingly likely, then we need to at least have a chance at a constructive relationship with the US.
test_test_1_2_3 on
Trump sucks, says wild shit and has done many bad things, but how exactly is he a neo-Nazi? Being misogynistic and making bigoted comments isn’t being a Nazi, being a Nazi is about believing the supremacy of the Aryan race, murdering millions of Jews and invading various European nations.
Words have actual meanings, people throw around the term fascism these days without a fucking clue what it means. This seems like a similar case here.
There’s plenty of legitimate criticism against Trump, people just undermine their credibility and strengthen support for Trump when they bandy around words like Nazi.
Lammy’s response to this is weak, if he is actually willing to stand behind the Nazi characterisation of Trump then why is he now trying to avoid the topic?
WasitSarr on
Is he wrong…. Or are we going to be like the rest of Reddit and pretend trump is a God who will save us from all the worlds problems #MAGA2024
Grayson81 on
Donald Trump’s VP pick called him “America’s Hitler” so everyone can give the faux outrage at Lammy’s words a rest.
What Lammy said was true. Trump is definitely a sociopath. And he supports and is supported by neo-Nazis, up to and including American extremities who wave the Nazi Swastika around in public.
If you’re offended by hearing Lammy describe Trump accurately, the problem isn’t with Lammy.
SlightWerewolf4428 on
They’ll be singing a different tune once, hopefully, Trump gets reelected.
But this highlights the problem of virtue signaling activism, flirting with anti-Americanism, when you’re in opposition.
Qyro on
As far as I’m concerned, there’s no need to defend the truth. It is what it is.
weirds0up on
I know we’ve had 14 years of Tory rule, but we’ve passed that now and it’s refreshing to hear a politician being honest.
_Monsterguy_ on
I’m not sure why he’d have to defend himself, he was being very generous by only calling Trump that.
DWOL82 on
David Lammy is an embarrassment.
Watch David Lammy say he’s not seen police all day on BBC camera whilst a police man stand behind him. [~https://youtu.be/F2yKCuMuOEk?si=5hSoQsOcF2yyCNXG~](https://youtu.be/F2yKCuMuOEk?si=5hSoQsOcF2yyCNXG)
Now watch David Lammy on mastermind at 1:46 [~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gHmEVuZ_uQ~](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gHmEVuZ_uQ) where he thinks Henry 7th succeeded Henry 8th.
Lammy also though the smoke if white or black that comes out of the Vatican chimney when voting determined the popes race [~https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21764636~](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21764636)
There is more , but I’m sure thats enough to give you a taste of David Lammy.
tolkienfan2759 on
And besides… he’s not a neo-Nazi! lol I have supported Trump for a long time, but these comments on Taiwan are a hot button issue, for me. Trump has a lot of value; there’s a lot of good in him; but it’s our job to support and defend Taiwan, and no one else’s. Actually, we need to start shooting down Chinese planes when they invade Taiwan’s airspace, is what we need to do. I know, a little extreme. Sorry.
Capital-Wolverine532 on
Already failed at his job. Wrong man for this job. To be fair, I don’t think any MP in the Labour party is a friend to America. It won’t end well.
dcruk1 on
Is he defending not having said it sooner?
What is he defending?
Vast-Scale-9596 on
The absolute truth. Stuff all those cringers that want to kiss the Orange Haemorroid.
AllRedLine on
I think it’s pretty obvious if (when) Trump wins, Lammy will more or less have to be tossed aside in a reshuffle.
Regardless of if the comments have merit, i just cannot imagine a world where we’re sending him to diplomatic events to discuss matters with a guy we all know holds pathetic personal grudges. It simply wouldnt be in the national interest – unfortunately.
Matttthhhhhhhhhhh on
I mean, he was just stating a fact here. Why is this a problem?
Purple_Woodpecker on
He’s right. Trump’s last term in office was a nightmare for the whole world. I don’t know how we managed to live through 4 years of affordable groceries, affordable energy prices, historic peace deals in the Middle East, not starting any new wars, not having Russia invade Ukraine, strengthening NATO by getting European sponger nations to pay their 2% for the first time ever, and so on and so forth.
Truly nightmarish stuff. God forbid we have to go through that again. God forbid. Jesus.
hongkonghonky on
I don’t like David Lammy, I have never had any time, or respect, for him whatsoever.
But he’s not wrong.
sbaldrick33 on
TBF, Trump’s own running mate used to say much the same thing. The only difference is that Lammy has a conscience.
Magurndy on
I’m sorry but it’s not exactly a lie is it? Politicians should be allowed to call out individuals like this. Dangerous rhetoric and behaviour should be challenged by those in power. It’s not right to just let Trump get away with this shit because he’s been a president of an allied nation. I want my MPs to have integrity and that means calling out those who are hateful.
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An interesting choice for foreign secretary at the very least. However he does appear capable of biting his lip now in power, so perhaps there is hope.
Hardly the actions of a foreign secretary with our countries best interests at heart. Like it or not trump is likely to win the US election and as such we will need to pursue close ties to him – this statement made by lammy is completely in contrast to kier starmers statements
Well the good news is if uk/USA relations aren’t cosy we might not be dragged into the next war.
So embarrassing to have this clown as foreign secretary.
He is not wrong, but I do wonder what his comments will do to UK-US relations when Trump inevitably wins the next (& probably every following) election.
Trump says nonsense shit all the time, I’m sure he can appreciate Lammy exaggerating a bit (Trump is definitely a racist, not sure I would call him a neo-nazi though)
Truth matters.
Say it with me: tr*mp is a neo-nazi sociopath, convicted criminal, a rapist, a racist, a fraudulent snakeoil salesman, a pimp, besties with epstein, a puppet of putin with the intellectual acuity of a doormat
>He told Sky News: “You are going to struggle to find any politician who didn’t have things to say about Donald Trump back in the day.”
I don’t know how this is David Lammy “defending” what he said? He’s not wrong obviously, but I feel like the headline is a bit inflammatory. It’s not like Lammy is reiterating what he said as a backbencher. Even David Cameron called Trump “divisive, stupid and wrong” and “protectionist, xenophobic, misogynistic” in his memoir.
Trump chose a running mate who described him as “Americas Hitler” in the past, I’m sure he’ll get over what Lammy said just as quickly.
If he can’t maintain neutral relations whilst dealing with our largest allies then David Lammy shouldn’t be in the role of foreign secretary at all.
Everyone else with a job speaking to awkward people manages it, and get fired if they broadcast themselves in public letting their true feelings slip.
This should be particularly the case for a role as vital as foreign secretary.
David Lammy is intelligent, honest and a man of principle, however, it appears he needs to understand that part of his new role as British Foreign Secretary is to be ‘diplomatic’. However, this is similar that which Trump’s new running mare has said in the recent past. Trump and his cohorts are fully aware of Lanny’s past remarks, and probably don’t care what he thinks or says in the slightest. Trump will do whatever he wants, whatever anyone else thinks, except maybe Putin.
It’s the first bit of truth we’ve heard from a government in 14 years
Can’t say I disagree with him but the issue is that if Trump comes to power, which is looking increasingly likely, then we need to at least have a chance at a constructive relationship with the US.
Trump sucks, says wild shit and has done many bad things, but how exactly is he a neo-Nazi? Being misogynistic and making bigoted comments isn’t being a Nazi, being a Nazi is about believing the supremacy of the Aryan race, murdering millions of Jews and invading various European nations.
Words have actual meanings, people throw around the term fascism these days without a fucking clue what it means. This seems like a similar case here.
There’s plenty of legitimate criticism against Trump, people just undermine their credibility and strengthen support for Trump when they bandy around words like Nazi.
Lammy’s response to this is weak, if he is actually willing to stand behind the Nazi characterisation of Trump then why is he now trying to avoid the topic?
Is he wrong…. Or are we going to be like the rest of Reddit and pretend trump is a God who will save us from all the worlds problems #MAGA2024
Donald Trump’s VP pick called him “America’s Hitler” so everyone can give the faux outrage at Lammy’s words a rest.
What Lammy said was true. Trump is definitely a sociopath. And he supports and is supported by neo-Nazis, up to and including American extremities who wave the Nazi Swastika around in public.
If you’re offended by hearing Lammy describe Trump accurately, the problem isn’t with Lammy.
They’ll be singing a different tune once, hopefully, Trump gets reelected.
But this highlights the problem of virtue signaling activism, flirting with anti-Americanism, when you’re in opposition.
As far as I’m concerned, there’s no need to defend the truth. It is what it is.
I know we’ve had 14 years of Tory rule, but we’ve passed that now and it’s refreshing to hear a politician being honest.
I’m not sure why he’d have to defend himself, he was being very generous by only calling Trump that.
David Lammy is an embarrassment.
Watch David Lammy say he’s not seen police all day on BBC camera whilst a police man stand behind him. [~https://youtu.be/F2yKCuMuOEk?si=5hSoQsOcF2yyCNXG~](https://youtu.be/F2yKCuMuOEk?si=5hSoQsOcF2yyCNXG)
Now watch David Lammy on mastermind at 1:46 [~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gHmEVuZ_uQ~](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gHmEVuZ_uQ) where he thinks Henry 7th succeeded Henry 8th.
Lammy also though the smoke if white or black that comes out of the Vatican chimney when voting determined the popes race [~https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21764636~](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21764636)
He also thought the 2 minutes silence on Armistice Day was at 11:11 [~https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6377941/Labour-MP-David-Lammy-criticised-Tweet-getting-time-two-minute-silence-wrong.html~](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6377941/Labour-MP-David-Lammy-criticised-Tweet-getting-time-two-minute-silence-wrong.html)
Look at the speed at which David Lammy runs of stage when things get slightly heated. [~https://youtube.com/shorts/vnYUaNopW2I?si=XD0fpC9_Trdd3MIX~](https://youtube.com/shorts/vnYUaNopW2I?si=XD0fpC9_Trdd3MIX)
This guy also got fined £5000 for nuisance calling 35,000 people to asking them to vote for him for London Mayor. [~https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/10/david-lammy-fined-over-mayoral-bid-nuisance-calls~](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/10/david-lammy-fined-over-mayoral-bid-nuisance-calls)
There is more , but I’m sure thats enough to give you a taste of David Lammy.
And besides… he’s not a neo-Nazi! lol I have supported Trump for a long time, but these comments on Taiwan are a hot button issue, for me. Trump has a lot of value; there’s a lot of good in him; but it’s our job to support and defend Taiwan, and no one else’s. Actually, we need to start shooting down Chinese planes when they invade Taiwan’s airspace, is what we need to do. I know, a little extreme. Sorry.
Already failed at his job. Wrong man for this job. To be fair, I don’t think any MP in the Labour party is a friend to America. It won’t end well.
Is he defending not having said it sooner?
What is he defending?
The absolute truth. Stuff all those cringers that want to kiss the Orange Haemorroid.
I think it’s pretty obvious if (when) Trump wins, Lammy will more or less have to be tossed aside in a reshuffle.
Regardless of if the comments have merit, i just cannot imagine a world where we’re sending him to diplomatic events to discuss matters with a guy we all know holds pathetic personal grudges. It simply wouldnt be in the national interest – unfortunately.
I mean, he was just stating a fact here. Why is this a problem?
He’s right. Trump’s last term in office was a nightmare for the whole world. I don’t know how we managed to live through 4 years of affordable groceries, affordable energy prices, historic peace deals in the Middle East, not starting any new wars, not having Russia invade Ukraine, strengthening NATO by getting European sponger nations to pay their 2% for the first time ever, and so on and so forth.
Truly nightmarish stuff. God forbid we have to go through that again. God forbid. Jesus.
I don’t like David Lammy, I have never had any time, or respect, for him whatsoever.
But he’s not wrong.
TBF, Trump’s own running mate used to say much the same thing. The only difference is that Lammy has a conscience.
I’m sorry but it’s not exactly a lie is it? Politicians should be allowed to call out individuals like this. Dangerous rhetoric and behaviour should be challenged by those in power. It’s not right to just let Trump get away with this shit because he’s been a president of an allied nation. I want my MPs to have integrity and that means calling out those who are hateful.