Tackling misogyny in UK schools could take up to 20 years, says Jess Phillips
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/24/misogyny-schools-measures-protect-women-girls-jess-phillips
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Tackling misogyny in UK schools could take up to 20 years, says Jess Phillips
https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/24/misogyny-schools-measures-protect-women-girls-jess-phillips
Posted by 1DarkStarryNight
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Seems each generation gets better so 20 years seems about right to tackling some of it.
Tateism or whatever we’re calling it is extremely disturbing about the effects it might have on an entire generation of boys and even girls.
But god damn is it sad that Jess Philips is the one in charge of combating this.
Unless I missed something the article has little mention of schools outside of the opening paragraph and a single reference to ‘prevention education’, and the rest of the article is about the role of the police in protecting victims of domestic violence, and not what the government is planning to do to tackle misogyny within the schooling system, or even the extent of that specific issue.
I clicked and read it because I was curious about the extent of misogyny within schools and among young people and how the government wanted to tackle it. I came out of it none the wiser on that question – ‘prevention education’ doesn’t elucidate much by itself.
Not a great article, if I am being honest. It would be better had the headline been about domestic violence against women, as that is the primary subject matter of the article.
The educational establishment has demonised masculine behaviour for decades. Young men have been deprived of healthy role models which has left the gate wide open for warped dickheads like Tate.
This is a monster they created with their short sighted, hysterical opinions. I see they’re determined to not learn from their mistakes as they’ve assigned Jess Phillips to the problem. Nice one lads, more of the same yeah?
There was a similar story recently where the teachers had reached a similar conclusion to me. The role model they reached for? Was it…Shackleton? Was it… Arthur Wellesley? No, it was Marcus Rashford. A literal football player. These people are passionately moronic.
Edit: I know Reddit isn’t exactly a bastion of knowledge but some of you do (at least claim) to think that Marcus Rashford is comparable with Duke Wellington and Shackleton. I know you’re just trolling but still, fucking Christ on a bike, lads.
Perhaps schools could do more to ensure equal outcomes for boys and girls in Primary education.
Have to fight the urge to make a “a bloke could do it faster” joke.
I have a sample of one 15 year old in my extended family and he at least kind of engages with loose misogyny and how can you put it a kind of social conservatism semi-ironically as a kind of rebellion.
I think as much as we don’t have to engage with anti-woke bollocks, the education system in this country is pretty “right on” these days and if your teacher is constantly telling you to treat each other kindness and you’re a teenage boy, well…
I don’t have a solution unfortunately!
She is blind to the source of the problem. In fact she chooses to be intentionally ignorant of it. So she could be given 20 million years, she’d still never fix it.
The article is really strange. It’s headline is about misogyny in UK schools, but it doesn’t actually talk about any misogyny in schools whatsoever, instead focusing on the still very important and serious issues of domestic violence and the specifically tragic case of Raneem Oudeh and the law that’s being proposed in response.
I have a son in school at the moment and honestly what comes out of him and his friends is mostly a kind of undifferentiated stream of meme content, like skibidi toilet, Among Us, Minecraft and just stupid things like that. The closest he gets to “misogyny” is the phrase “what the sigma” he seems to have picked up from somewhere which if you’re reaching is loosely connected to Tate’s bullshit. But I can guarantee that my son has no idea about that and is just repeating a phrase he thinks is funny.
Schools are already excessively female dominated in terms of staffing and management (excepting the top levels I’m sure). They also already teach heavily about dignity and respect for others and do way way more than I ever heard or saw when I was at school. So I’m not sure exactly why it’s necessary to connect schoolchildren with domestic violence in this way. It promotes a negative and hostile viewpoint of men as lurking potential abusers who beat their partners wholesale.
I don’t disagree with the approach that handling this will require teaching children right, but I don’t think it’s fair to just draw a direct parallel between kids and abusers in this way.
What about misandry, Jess? Including your behaviour?
We need to tell male schoolchildren that they are all trash and they are personally responsible for anything done by any man ever. Think that should fix the problem.
People seem to blame Tate like the boogeyman of the internet, but we all should be humble enough to learn lessons from anyone, even those we may not like. Results matter and Tate is popular for a reason. He’s a salesman. Tap into some of those effective techniques and utilise them in a way which develops responsible men who feel valued, respected and have a place in society.
I personally can’t wait for the next 4 years of vile, misandrist bullshit we get to hear from her. Going to be great fun.
She wouldn’t call out who caused all the fuss at her election and just blamed men.
I’m a man and it wasn’t me doing it so how much of the blame should I share?
Did her husband participate?
He’s a man, was he at fault?
A very unlikeable person is Jess
Lack of role models. Everyone is driven by money, greed and corruption. The men raising kids have their own issues and it’s what their kid sees. A fairer society would lead to more well rounded kids when their parents don’t have a chip on their shoulder.
From what I’ve gleaned from the article and comments is that absolutely nothing will change.
Not sure what the whole ‘Tate’ thing is. Every workplace in Britain is rife with misogyny. Saying that schools are bad because of Tate means total denial of British culture which inherently is misogynistic.
If you don’t even acknowledge the problem and instead blame and internet meme, you have no chance in hell of resolving anything.
Don’t girls do better than boys on pretty much every measure of the state school system?
Give them something long term to look forward to: affordable housing, decent job market, fair wages etc
Don’t espouse a culture of anti masculinity.
Watch as Tate fades away into the darkness of the jail cell he’ll end up in.
Jess Phillips talking about misogyny is pure hypocrisy when she’s a misandrist.
When increasing male suicides and poor mental health was brought up in the Commons, she openly mocked men’s issues and has called men “laughable” She also refused to discuss men’s rights until 50% of MPs were female.
She will actively ignore the problems faced by male students and is not the right person for this job.
I think a good first step would be getting rid of the phrase “toxic masculinity”.
It scares me for my daughters and what they are facing right now. We need better parenting, better education, and harsher punishments to set examples for those who perpetuate harmful behaviors. It’s nearly ALWAYS middle class white males that are the issue as if they are trained from a young age and told they are entitled. It’s almost anecdotal at this point.
White working class boys are the most under privileged group in the entire country, and in order to stop them turning to people like Andrew Tate, we need to help them not blame them. So it will only get worse under Jess Phillips.
How does someone like Tate get so much influence over boys. Where the hell are their actual father figures in all of this in terms of influencing their morals and views of women. Why are children not valuing their fathers influence more or are fathers as shit?
Genuinely asking
Has she factored in the growth of the British-Asian / Islamic population? That’s going to set us back even further in terms of how women are viewed by society.