In parliament, Rayner said something to the effect of “Social housing will go to those who need it”.
Essentially admitting that British citizens won’t be prioritised. It’s not (or at least shouldn’t be) controversial to say that public resources should be prioritised for British citizens.
We should be housing asylum seekers in their own facilities, and if we’re giving social housing to recently arrived economic migrants, then why are they here?
bitch_fitching on
Good luck if you’re British and on the waiting list for social housing. They increased immigration to increase house prices and private rents, then they make it impossible to get social housing.
sim-pit on
I see Labour are intent on making ReformUK the next government.
denyer-no1-fan on
Just to be clear, the Tories were planning to bring in the 10-year limit earlier this year, but didn’t actually implement it. If they thought it was important they would’ve implemented it years ago.
Also, as things stand, non-asylum seekers only get access to social housing after they stay in the country for 5 years, so it’s not like someone can just get a work visa and get social housing.
most_crispy_owl on
>The share of social homes granted to foreign nationals has almost doubled over the past 15 years from 5.8 per cent in 2009-10 to 10.4 per cent in 2022-23
Maybe the bigger issue is foreign ownership in new builds. I do not understand why it’s possible. Apparently 70% rent the houses back out. Ridiculous! Ban them from owning them completely
Labour reading the room brilliantly on this. Why now of all times?
ThatPassion1471 on
This makes no sense to me, in so many other countries around the world, only people that have been living in a country for a set amount of time are able to get certain benefits (or even be allowed to buy a property)
Why should someone that has just arrived in the country that doesn’t work, can’t speak English, doesn’t identify with Britain in any way, has never paid taxes, possibly will never pay taxes, get a free house, and free everything else.
SojournerInThisVale on
Fully expected. It’s anathema to the modern Labour Party to see any difference between a foreign national and a citizen of this country.
Labour has a big majority, but it’s a mile wide and an inch deep. Reform will no doubt make hay with this. Expect Labour to suffer big time at the next election if they carry on like this
Life-Duty-965 on
Great timing!
That’s going to go down well
If you don’t give the people what they want, we’ll just get more civil unrest.
This has a long way to run sadly.
seeksadvic3 on
I know conservatives were beyond terrible but I think we’re in for a bad time with Labour.
Unlucky-Jello-5660 on
Seems really poor timing to take this decision when we’ve had literal riots stoked up based on immigration by the far right. This feeds them such easy ammo to radicalise more people.
Ok-Philosophy4182 on
Not surprising – continuing the age old labour policy of importing voters and stuffing them with cash.
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UuusernameWith4Us on
To be blunt: someone who came to this country recently and has struggled economically has the option of going back home with their tail between their legs.
Someone who was born here, or who has lived here long term and fallen on hard times, doesn’t have that option. Here is their home and they don’t know anywhere else. There has to be value in that.
It’s completely wrong to not factor this in when making decisions about social housing.
0GoodVibrations0 on
I received a Section 21 after a decade of living in the same flat. Couldn’t afford the current private renting cost and had no idea what I was going to do. Mental health took a nosedive and I ended up in hospital. I was told by the council they wouldn’t help me, as “keyworkers cannot have mental health issues,” and I should contact them if I become “street homeless”.
I work with a lot of families who enter the UK for better prospects and are given top priority as they have almost always brought children with them. I work with many families who receive government assistance and send a portion of it abroad to relatives. I work with people whose rent is below £500 in inner London and is paid in full. I know a handful who are saving to build homes abroad, while occupying social housing here.
I was born here and it is very difficult not to become resentful of the system.
ThePostingToproller on
This is what the labour voters voted for. You reap what you sow.
InTheEndEntropyWins on
Seems like a terrible time to admit or say this out loud.
ToryBlair on
> The PA news agency’s analysis of Office for National Statistics census data from March 2021 shows 48% of “household reference persons” (the head of the household) renting social housing in London were born outside the UK.
> Across all residents, more than 1.3 million UK-born people were living in social housing in London in 2021, compared to 525,000 who were born overseas.
Very fair system we live in
Jabberminor on
So what happens to those that have been on the application list for those 10 years and still don’t have a place?
HotMachine9 on
I get the whole “economic migrants are exempt for 5 years” but also, and I hate to sound like a Reform nutter, how about we prioritise our own?
People who get rent trapped for years will ultimately be in competition with droves of people only increasing year on year due to this change. I’m happy to be corrected on it. But regardless this will only stoke the culture war fires. Bad move by Labour even if the headline sounds worse than it actually is.
Ruhail_56 on
Let this be a lesson to you all. Voting changes nothing when all these scumbags just undercut their voterbase and do what they feel like. Never let anyone guilt you into voting for a party again just because we have to get the old party out. Fuck all of them. I’ll continue drawing dicks on my ballots.
_Spigglesworth_ on
Disgraceful, do you want more riots? Because this is how you get more riots. British people absolutely should be given priority, actually those who have paid taxes the longest and fall on hard times should be given priority.
They just can’t seem to do or say anything that people want can they?
Patrick_B8man on
This is insane. What is the reasoning behind this? The world already thinks we’re a soft touch.
SuperGuy41 on
The U.K. is so fucked. We needed action but have these spineless dweebs at the helm. I wonder what this country will look and feel like in 5 years time.
goodwima on
Yeah they’re out next time. No regard for British citizens. No plans to bring down immigration. Authoritarian online safety threats. They can fuck themselves.
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In parliament, Rayner said something to the effect of “Social housing will go to those who need it”.
Essentially admitting that British citizens won’t be prioritised. It’s not (or at least shouldn’t be) controversial to say that public resources should be prioritised for British citizens.
We should be housing asylum seekers in their own facilities, and if we’re giving social housing to recently arrived economic migrants, then why are they here?
Good luck if you’re British and on the waiting list for social housing. They increased immigration to increase house prices and private rents, then they make it impossible to get social housing.
I see Labour are intent on making ReformUK the next government.
Just to be clear, the Tories were planning to bring in the 10-year limit earlier this year, but didn’t actually implement it. If they thought it was important they would’ve implemented it years ago.
Also, as things stand, non-asylum seekers only get access to social housing after they stay in the country for 5 years, so it’s not like someone can just get a work visa and get social housing.
>The share of social homes granted to foreign nationals has almost doubled over the past 15 years from 5.8 per cent in 2009-10 to 10.4 per cent in 2022-23
Maybe the bigger issue is foreign ownership in new builds. I do not understand why it’s possible. Apparently 70% rent the houses back out. Ridiculous! Ban them from owning them completely
https://www.cbre.co.uk/insights/articles/should-we-restrict-overseas-buyers
Heres a few links related to this topic which should provide some insight and examples on the matter:
[https://fullfact.org/immigration/illegal-immigration-council-housing/](https://fullfact.org/immigration/illegal-immigration-council-housing/)
[https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/immigration/asylum-and-refugees/after-you-get-refugee-status/#:~:text=right%20to%20work.-,Claiming%20benefits,ve%20reached%20State%20Pension%20age](https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/immigration/asylum-and-refugees/after-you-get-refugee-status/#:~:text=right%20to%20work.-,Claiming%20benefits,ve%20reached%20State%20Pension%20age)
[https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/latest/news/refugee-council-welcome-landmark-court-of-appeal-ruling-on-residence-requirement-for-social-housing/](https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/latest/news/refugee-council-welcome-landmark-court-of-appeal-ruling-on-residence-requirement-for-social-housing/)
[https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/housing-law/397-housing-news/51126-high-court-finds-council-failed-to-carry-out-lawful-housing-needs-assessment-for-asylum-seeker](https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/housing-law/397-housing-news/51126-high-court-finds-council-failed-to-carry-out-lawful-housing-needs-assessment-for-asylum-seeker)
Labour reading the room brilliantly on this. Why now of all times?
This makes no sense to me, in so many other countries around the world, only people that have been living in a country for a set amount of time are able to get certain benefits (or even be allowed to buy a property)
Why should someone that has just arrived in the country that doesn’t work, can’t speak English, doesn’t identify with Britain in any way, has never paid taxes, possibly will never pay taxes, get a free house, and free everything else.
Fully expected. It’s anathema to the modern Labour Party to see any difference between a foreign national and a citizen of this country.
Labour has a big majority, but it’s a mile wide and an inch deep. Reform will no doubt make hay with this. Expect Labour to suffer big time at the next election if they carry on like this
Great timing!
That’s going to go down well
If you don’t give the people what they want, we’ll just get more civil unrest.
This has a long way to run sadly.
I know conservatives were beyond terrible but I think we’re in for a bad time with Labour.
Seems really poor timing to take this decision when we’ve had literal riots stoked up based on immigration by the far right. This feeds them such easy ammo to radicalise more people.
Not surprising – continuing the age old labour policy of importing voters and stuffing them with cash.
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To be blunt: someone who came to this country recently and has struggled economically has the option of going back home with their tail between their legs.
Someone who was born here, or who has lived here long term and fallen on hard times, doesn’t have that option. Here is their home and they don’t know anywhere else. There has to be value in that.
It’s completely wrong to not factor this in when making decisions about social housing.
I received a Section 21 after a decade of living in the same flat. Couldn’t afford the current private renting cost and had no idea what I was going to do. Mental health took a nosedive and I ended up in hospital. I was told by the council they wouldn’t help me, as “keyworkers cannot have mental health issues,” and I should contact them if I become “street homeless”.
I work with a lot of families who enter the UK for better prospects and are given top priority as they have almost always brought children with them. I work with many families who receive government assistance and send a portion of it abroad to relatives. I work with people whose rent is below £500 in inner London and is paid in full. I know a handful who are saving to build homes abroad, while occupying social housing here.
I was born here and it is very difficult not to become resentful of the system.
This is what the labour voters voted for. You reap what you sow.
Seems like a terrible time to admit or say this out loud.
> The PA news agency’s analysis of Office for National Statistics census data from March 2021 shows 48% of “household reference persons” (the head of the household) renting social housing in London were born outside the UK.
> Across all residents, more than 1.3 million UK-born people were living in social housing in London in 2021, compared to 525,000 who were born overseas.
Very fair system we live in
So what happens to those that have been on the application list for those 10 years and still don’t have a place?
I get the whole “economic migrants are exempt for 5 years” but also, and I hate to sound like a Reform nutter, how about we prioritise our own?
People who get rent trapped for years will ultimately be in competition with droves of people only increasing year on year due to this change. I’m happy to be corrected on it. But regardless this will only stoke the culture war fires. Bad move by Labour even if the headline sounds worse than it actually is.
Let this be a lesson to you all. Voting changes nothing when all these scumbags just undercut their voterbase and do what they feel like. Never let anyone guilt you into voting for a party again just because we have to get the old party out. Fuck all of them. I’ll continue drawing dicks on my ballots.
Disgraceful, do you want more riots? Because this is how you get more riots. British people absolutely should be given priority, actually those who have paid taxes the longest and fall on hard times should be given priority.
They just can’t seem to do or say anything that people want can they?
This is insane. What is the reasoning behind this? The world already thinks we’re a soft touch.
The U.K. is so fucked. We needed action but have these spineless dweebs at the helm. I wonder what this country will look and feel like in 5 years time.
Yeah they’re out next time. No regard for British citizens. No plans to bring down immigration. Authoritarian online safety threats. They can fuck themselves.