Realistically isn’t all prison going to do is make you a hardened criminal?
mao_was_right on
Don’t need to build more prisons when you can just let the cons out when you get full.
grrrranm on
Literally insane, the population has increased by 10 million we need more capacity!
Toastlove on
Some people can’t be rehabilitated and dont want to be. It’s not all about punishment, sometimes you keep need to keep people away from the rest of society because they ruin things for everyone else, something like 1% of offenders commit 60% of crimes in a given area.
Apprehensive_Ear7068 on
What they going to do with all the people that commit a thought crime on twitter?
ScallionOk6420 on
As this is the chap who resigned in protest at John Worboys being kept in prison, perhaps it would be best to do the exact opposite of what he suggests.
Sithfish on
So the Tories shut prisons but were going to build megaprisons?
Public_Growth_6002 on
Keeping people in prison is very expensive, so if someone can guarantee that rehabilitation will work, with the resulting protections to society, then great, don’t build more prisons.
Until that miracle guarantee happens, society as a whole benefits from offenders / criminals / menaces etc being denied their freedom.
XenorVernix on
Oh the old prevention is better than deterrent logic. You could spend the entire government budget on preventing crime and you still wouldn’t stop all of it. That’s not how the world works. With prisons overflowing and the population of the country surging then it’s clear we need more prisons along with everything else that we’re not getting.
qzapwy on
Please just build some infrastructure in this country that isn’t already at 100% capacity several years before it opens.
Neo2allthis on
Build more prisons. Straight from the dinghies and straight to prison.
Old_Roof on
How about we build new prisons AND fund rehabilitation?
youdoyoufella on
With respect, this is the wrong move. People are gaming the system because they know people are not getting sentences.
AcademicIncrease8080 on
when there are literally no consequences to crime then more and more people will figure out they can get away with it e.g. I now frequently see people in stores like Greggs casually strolling up and grabbing a few baguettes for their lunch and walking out without paying, don’t even other to cover their faces 😛
t0wser on
It would be cheaper and a better long term plan to sort out what makes people commit crime in the first place – you know a close the gate before the horse has bolted type thing…
fhdhsu on
I’m tired, man.
A person being sent to prison is now more likely to be a >46th time offender than they are to be a first time offender.
Why do the rest of us have to live in a broken society fearful of being victimised because of, literally what comes out to a rounding error of the population.
No individual deserves 47 chances. At what point do the rest of us get a second chance to live our lives without them?
Deadly_Flipper_Tab on
Going to need space for all those people posting distasteful memes.
Pyriel on
We need both.
A growing population requires more capacity, including prison spaces
We also need to move from always punish by imprisonment to a wider spectrum justice system.
The balance between punishment and rehabilitation needs a lot of work.
AtillaThePundit on
For £4bn I will be Batman and we won’t need prisons
turkiowsar on
Labour is going to turn Britain into a criminal activity safehub
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Realistically isn’t all prison going to do is make you a hardened criminal?
Don’t need to build more prisons when you can just let the cons out when you get full.
Literally insane, the population has increased by 10 million we need more capacity!
Some people can’t be rehabilitated and dont want to be. It’s not all about punishment, sometimes you keep need to keep people away from the rest of society because they ruin things for everyone else, something like 1% of offenders commit 60% of crimes in a given area.
What they going to do with all the people that commit a thought crime on twitter?
As this is the chap who resigned in protest at John Worboys being kept in prison, perhaps it would be best to do the exact opposite of what he suggests.
So the Tories shut prisons but were going to build megaprisons?
Keeping people in prison is very expensive, so if someone can guarantee that rehabilitation will work, with the resulting protections to society, then great, don’t build more prisons.
Until that miracle guarantee happens, society as a whole benefits from offenders / criminals / menaces etc being denied their freedom.
Oh the old prevention is better than deterrent logic. You could spend the entire government budget on preventing crime and you still wouldn’t stop all of it. That’s not how the world works. With prisons overflowing and the population of the country surging then it’s clear we need more prisons along with everything else that we’re not getting.
Please just build some infrastructure in this country that isn’t already at 100% capacity several years before it opens.
Build more prisons. Straight from the dinghies and straight to prison.
How about we build new prisons AND fund rehabilitation?
With respect, this is the wrong move. People are gaming the system because they know people are not getting sentences.
when there are literally no consequences to crime then more and more people will figure out they can get away with it e.g. I now frequently see people in stores like Greggs casually strolling up and grabbing a few baguettes for their lunch and walking out without paying, don’t even other to cover their faces 😛
It would be cheaper and a better long term plan to sort out what makes people commit crime in the first place – you know a close the gate before the horse has bolted type thing…
I’m tired, man.
A person being sent to prison is now more likely to be a >46th time offender than they are to be a first time offender.
Why do the rest of us have to live in a broken society fearful of being victimised because of, literally what comes out to a rounding error of the population.
No individual deserves 47 chances. At what point do the rest of us get a second chance to live our lives without them?
Going to need space for all those people posting distasteful memes.
We need both.
A growing population requires more capacity, including prison spaces
We also need to move from always punish by imprisonment to a wider spectrum justice system.
The balance between punishment and rehabilitation needs a lot of work.
For £4bn I will be Batman and we won’t need prisons
Labour is going to turn Britain into a criminal activity safehub