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    In a leaked recording, Amazon cloud chief tells employees that most developers could stop coding soon as AI takes over

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    1. MetaKnowing on

      “Software engineers may have to develop other skills soon as artificial intelligence takes over many coding tasks.

      That’s according to Amazon Web Services’ CEO, Matt Garman, who shared his thoughts on the topic during an internal fireside chat.

      “If you go forward 24 months from now, or some amount of time — I can’t exactly predict where it is — it’s possible that most developers are not coding.”

      This means the job of a software developer will change, Garman said. “It just means that each of us has to get more in tune with what our customers need and what the actual end thing is that we’re going to try to go build, because that’s going to be more and more of what the work is as opposed to sitting down and actually writing code,” he said.

      Emad Mostaque, Stability AI’s former CEO, predicted that there would be “no programmers in five years.”

    2. Baragha on

      Don’t you just love how people in high places fantasize about getting rid of all those pescy workers, so they can get their hands on their pay checks as well? Have fun figuring out how your cloud works without the people who built it.

    3. tjientavara on

      When I went to school they were already warning me that in about 5 years programmers would be replaced by AI, so I should really not be studying software engineering. This was in 1988.

    4. sdric on

      Its middle management pitching hopes to management in order to frame themselves as visionaries for the next promotion.

      A lot of companies are already taking a step back from using AI for coding aid, because understanding what it did and bugfixing everything that went wrong often takes more effort than writing everything yourself.

      Not to mention the security risks involved if your employees don’t understand their software, if coding is outsourced to AI.

      Those articles only attempt to scare developers into accepting lower paid jobs out of fear. We are far, far away from having them replaced – especially when we are talking about big strictly regulated companies

    5. Careful-Fruit-6464 on

      Question, if you train a model on existing data, can it ever produce new unique output?

    6. MatsSvensson on

      That means they are going to be fucked.

      If you dont write code, its just a question of time before you cant read code either.
      That’s not a good trait for a developer.
      That’s like having architects that cant read blueprints, building your houses.
      Or having a carpenter that doesn’t know how hammers or nails work.

      Ask that chief how well he would be able to do his job, if he had no idea how to do **his** job.

      Or maybe that’s what already happened?

    7. TheChadmania on

      Yeah uh AI is not going to be writing production code like that, what a joke. These C-suite people are the most out of fucking touch.

    8. sg_plumber on

      > If you go forward 24 months from now, or some amount of time — I can’t exactly predict where it is — it’s possible that most developers are not coding.

      So: business as usual, nothing new here. Keep coding, and we’ll review (and repeat the forecast) in 2 years’ time.

    9. ivlivscaesar213 on

      And 2-3 years later they get a massive buggy mess of AI generated codes that nobody knows how to fix.

    10. g1n3k on

      It’s much more likely that AI can replace a few managment layers, in two years CEO will only talk to more sophisticated chatbota being his team.

    11. Lizzylove on

      I work in IT and although AI is powerfull, we’re not remotely close to that level yet. AI is very powerfull in the right hands because I know what to fix in the code it gives me. But if someone who doesn’t know jack about code would use it, it would be stuck in a loop trying to get the code to work.

    12. Ordinary_Support_426 on

      This is nonsense and a security risk to a companies app/website.

      and also testers are still needed as the end users are still humans and we always break stuff

    15. mccoypauley on

      Everyone here is like “Haha no way.” And most people here probably didn’t try to keep up with the pace of things like SD when it first came out to see the horrifyingly awesome progress image generation made in the space of 1.5 years.

      I’m not a machine learning developer or even a high level programmer: I make brochureware websites from scratch, using comps created by visual designers for large agencies as a freelancer. On my end that means 20-40k checks per website for a month or two of work.

      From what I have seen of LLM development: jobs like mine are not going to exist in the near future. I will have to switch to being oversight for an AI. My visual design partner will likely also be a form of oversight for the look/feel that an AI will iterate over. And that’s being optimistic that the client would even need us for that oversight.

      Those who will get left behind are those who lack imagination. Amazon is unfortunately correct.

    16. CMDR_kamikazze on

      OK, guess it’s time to plan the migration of all our resources from AWS to on-premises.