“I’ll tell you what you are: you’re somebody who will exploit any problem going for your own political ends.
“Brexit was a fundamentally damaging thing to this country, that is your one legacy, and you now don’t want to talk about it because even you know that it has damaged this country. It has made us poorer, it has made us weaker, it has hit our standing in the world.”
Farage is king grifter bullsh*tter, running a party of criminals and defenders of abusers. Vile.
NMMBPodcast on
Farage? On “Question Time”? How did they pull that off?
TheClemDispenser on
Yeah but Alastair Campbell war crimes send him to The Hague, or whatever you say that lets you pretend he doesn’t have a point.
gizmostrumpet on
No time for Farage, but Campbell has some nerve after Iraq.
Antfrm03 on
Even for the most fervent Farage hater, this is really “wrong messenger” territory…
KumSnatcher on
Well it’s not his fault, is it? He campaigned for it but he never had any input on how it was handled or delivered. That responsibility lies solely with those who were MPs at the time.
Edit: Downvoting me doesn’t change reality.
Sad-Care5796 on
He’s a war criminal, he doesn’t get to question ANYONE.
Specialist-Emu-5119 on
And Campbell never took responsibility for helping kill a million Iraqis but here we are.
cardak98 on
Wonder when him and Blair will take responsibility for Iraq. He belongs in prison.
-GuardPasser- on
BS Farage destroyed him. Hell even the BBC crowd clapped.
War criminal Campbell is a bitter has been
ray-shoesmith- on
The far left believing this is hilarious. You’re literally believing the BBC and a war criminal.
suffolkbobby65 on
Blair’s spin doctor Campbell, A case of pot calling the kettle black.
Terrible-Group-9602 on
Whwn Alastair Campbell takes responsibility for the ‘dodgy dossier’ that precipitated Britain’s disastrous involvement in the Iraq War, I’ll take what he says seriously.
How this man somehow rehabilitated himself as some kind of serious political commentator is beyond me.
Appropriate_Word_649 on
Farrage is a traitor. He would sell his own mother for a profit.
JBM94 on
War Criminal trying to remain relevant again I see.
WyleyBaggie on
Virtually every political choice this country makes can be put down to terrible state of our education system and the fact schools in the public sector are not allowed to teach politics but the private schools are.
I personally didn’t care if we were in or out of the EU. But I understood the issues and in the end I voted leave on the basis it was the only way our political system would take notices of the issues. Our MEPs did very little to help the UK and those in parliament hid behind EU decisions rather then take responsibility.
Leaving was always going to damage the country and it’ll continue for perhaps another ten years. We were entangle with the EU for over 40 years and we allowed them to do almost anything because our politicians are idle.
The should never have been a Remain or Leave election. The government should have set out the facts and the consequences with educations TV shows. Cameron promised it on TV to get power, it was never even discussed by the government before hand or the campaigning team. He was losing the debate and panic set in.
JB_UK on
The really big impact of Brexit looks to be on investment, and the damage will be significant, but mostly isn’t visible yet in the real economy. There’s basically no visible impact on GDP of Brexit compared to France and Germany:
The visible impact will happen over the next generation when plants like Luton come to the end of an investment cycle and companies decide to move operations elsewhere.
Most of the issues that we see now are down to run of the mill bad governance in Europe, I’d say the biggest factors are the highest energy costs in the world, a lack of public investment in infrastructure, and a planning system which wastes investment money (high speed rail drowns underneath £100m bad tunnels, and a £1bn underground railway beneath the Chilterns) and can’t build enough houses to keep housing costs at reasonable levels, which in turn makes our real wages uncompetitive.
ray-shoesmith- on
So many people defending a war criminal on here. Astounding.
lookitsthesun on
Just tired boomer/gen x #FBPE porn. It was nearly nine years ago ffs. He had no involvement in subsequent government. We all knew the problems inherent in a referendum question like we had over Brexit.
It was certainly possible to do Brexit in a way that stayed true to the fundamental ideals of the vote. For some reason the Tories decided to do the opposite.
Purple_Woodpecker on
Alistair Campbell has the blood of anywhere between 500,000 and 1,500,000 human beings on his hands, most of them innocent civilians.
So he can shove his opinions all the way up his arse.
MrBrainsFabbots on
Why should someone with no political power take responsibility? There is no good reason why Brexit could not have been successful.
The responsibility for arranging a good deal with the EU fell to the government in power. They fumbled the ball. There was no inherent reason why we wouldn’t have been able to get a good deal
Flux_Aeternal on
No one has done more to increase immigration to the UK than Nigel Farage. It is not a coincidence that his influence in politics is directly linked to soaring immigration. He doesn’t actually care, otherwise he would act differently. He is a pure opportunist, a political arsonist who is happy to cry “fire” on one hand while pouring petrol with the other.
Finerfings on
Ah yes, morality lessons from the man who’s lies lead to a million deaths in Iraq.
I’m permanently baffled by his public rehabilitation.
SiteWhole7575 on
As horrifying as it sounds I was quite happy with the outcome of Brexit at the time (I voted Remain btw).
Purely because I put a £500 bet on it going the other way and made £3.5k. I just had a feeling it was going to go the other way though, and in 2016 I put a bet on Trump to win for £500 when Bernie was still on the cards and that paid for my first flat with a nearly 50% deposit.
Did the same in 2020 and lost £500 but I did the same before Biden stepped down in 2023 and 12/1 at £500 so £6k. I can probably afford to put my heating on.
Farage is such a scumbag though, he knows exactly what he has done, but “It’s OK lads, I’m just like you! Look I drink real ale!” It’s so easy to fool the majority of people and sadly so many people fell for it, same with Trump. I’ve just seen it happen too many times and they don’t even realise that they have been fooled.
He doesn’t mention UKIP anymore either because it was basically a “shinier” version of the BNP, but everyone knows, you can’t polish a turd for very long.
Species1139 on
Every time Farrage goes on a show they need to get someone who will tear him a new arsehole.
Maybe then he won’t want to come on to spout his hate filled bile as much.
I wish he’d vanish, I left X to get away from all the Reform c*nts
Jay_6125 on
To an impartial observer that man Farage wiped the floor with them last night. It was rather entertaining to see.
And honestly after Dr Kelly and Iraq Campbell has some brass neck lecturing anyone let alone an MP.
I trust the BBC only provided tea and juice.
Albert_O_Balsam on
Farage is a total cunt, but Campbell is a bigger cunt, a dossier full of lies to push through a war in Iraq that killed or wounded 1m civilians, I’d say that’s pretty cunty.
Life-Duty-965 on
But this is just an example of spin and manipulation
The Remainers aren’t stupid (so they tell me)
So they well know that Farage wasn’t in charge of what happened after Brexit.
We could have had a May deal but that was blocked by the pro Remain MPs in parliament at the time, and how that backfired! We ended up with the awful Boris deal.
I’ll never understand why Corbyn didn’t have some guts and stood up for a left lead deal, wouldn’t that have been the best scenario for lefty remainer types? Baffling that he didn’t come out say he would deliver a better Brexit.
Whatever.
Farage didn’t do the deal. How can he be responsible?
Want to see he what he might do with the power? Keep this up and we might find out. Trump got back in because of the establishment’s refusal to listen to what people want. Democracy isn’t about delivering a perfect government. It’s about arriving at a government that does what the people want.
Many still aren’t getting this and they will lose again. Which is a worry.
McFigroll on
The applause should tell farage enough, if he even is aware of us common folk.
Psittacula2 on
All “froth” on top of the cappuccino AFTER the event.
The factual reality is:
1. UK entered the EEC in 70s because UK Establishment already decided that in the 60s then used 2 major tactics to push it through: (1) Purposeful bait and switch on Common Market vs Political Union (2) Post accession referendum AFTER joining via executive choice by the UK Establishment. A betrayal of the foundations of the social contract between state and citizen.
2. Brexit is little different in Deception of Politicians on People: Remain never argued honestly concerning both joining the EURO and signing the EU CONSTITUTION for a Federal future and Leave deliberately SCUTTLED the soft exit options via complicity with Politicians in both UK and EU ultimately punishing the people for political mechanism reasons eg necessity of clear split for visual optics of leaving the Treaties which conflate Market with Political Powers. Ie so other voters and electorates would not “copy cat“ Brexit thus self-harm was paramount ie full deception.
Ie One of the greatest sins of all abuse of power = Coercion.
What small fry such as Farage and Campbell have to say is immaterial. Two professional liars for public consumption and “Mythsteria” generation. Only fit for the talking box soma supply.
boingwater on
The farce that is Brexit was based on lies from Farage and co, and they’ll drag the country down if Reform ever get in.
urbanspaceman85 on
Good. It needs repeating to his face at every opportunity. Everything he wanted and liked – Brexit, Liz Truss’s mini budget – has failed and been discredited. Never let him forget.
SojournerInThisVale on
> skewers
That’s certainly one way of looking at it. I’ve always found it rather weird to blame the man whom the conservatives wouldn’t have anywhere near the negotiations or post Brexit transition or a policy building
mountain4455 on
Problem is we’ll never know what could have been. We had Theresa May, a supporter of the EU, negotiating the deal.
Whether it was a good idea or not, May and her advisors fucked it royally. May still have ended up poorly, but given who was in charge of key points of leaving the EU, it damaged it greatly
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“I’ll tell you what you are: you’re somebody who will exploit any problem going for your own political ends.
“Brexit was a fundamentally damaging thing to this country, that is your one legacy, and you now don’t want to talk about it because even you know that it has damaged this country. It has made us poorer, it has made us weaker, it has hit our standing in the world.”
Farage is king grifter bullsh*tter, running a party of criminals and defenders of abusers. Vile.
Farage? On “Question Time”? How did they pull that off?
Yeah but Alastair Campbell war crimes send him to The Hague, or whatever you say that lets you pretend he doesn’t have a point.
No time for Farage, but Campbell has some nerve after Iraq.
Even for the most fervent Farage hater, this is really “wrong messenger” territory…
Well it’s not his fault, is it? He campaigned for it but he never had any input on how it was handled or delivered. That responsibility lies solely with those who were MPs at the time.
Edit: Downvoting me doesn’t change reality.
He’s a war criminal, he doesn’t get to question ANYONE.
And Campbell never took responsibility for helping kill a million Iraqis but here we are.
Wonder when him and Blair will take responsibility for Iraq. He belongs in prison.
BS Farage destroyed him. Hell even the BBC crowd clapped.
War criminal Campbell is a bitter has been
The far left believing this is hilarious. You’re literally believing the BBC and a war criminal.
Blair’s spin doctor Campbell, A case of pot calling the kettle black.
Whwn Alastair Campbell takes responsibility for the ‘dodgy dossier’ that precipitated Britain’s disastrous involvement in the Iraq War, I’ll take what he says seriously.
How this man somehow rehabilitated himself as some kind of serious political commentator is beyond me.
Farrage is a traitor. He would sell his own mother for a profit.
War Criminal trying to remain relevant again I see.
Virtually every political choice this country makes can be put down to terrible state of our education system and the fact schools in the public sector are not allowed to teach politics but the private schools are.
I personally didn’t care if we were in or out of the EU. But I understood the issues and in the end I voted leave on the basis it was the only way our political system would take notices of the issues. Our MEPs did very little to help the UK and those in parliament hid behind EU decisions rather then take responsibility.
Leaving was always going to damage the country and it’ll continue for perhaps another ten years. We were entangle with the EU for over 40 years and we allowed them to do almost anything because our politicians are idle.
The should never have been a Remain or Leave election. The government should have set out the facts and the consequences with educations TV shows. Cameron promised it on TV to get power, it was never even discussed by the government before hand or the campaigning team. He was losing the debate and panic set in.
The really big impact of Brexit looks to be on investment, and the damage will be significant, but mostly isn’t visible yet in the real economy. There’s basically no visible impact on GDP of Brexit compared to France and Germany:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/gdp-per-capita-worldbank?tab=chart&stackMode=relative&time=2016..latest&country=DEU~GBR~FRA
The visible impact will happen over the next generation when plants like Luton come to the end of an investment cycle and companies decide to move operations elsewhere.
Most of the issues that we see now are down to run of the mill bad governance in Europe, I’d say the biggest factors are the highest energy costs in the world, a lack of public investment in infrastructure, and a planning system which wastes investment money (high speed rail drowns underneath £100m bad tunnels, and a £1bn underground railway beneath the Chilterns) and can’t build enough houses to keep housing costs at reasonable levels, which in turn makes our real wages uncompetitive.
So many people defending a war criminal on here. Astounding.
Just tired boomer/gen x #FBPE porn. It was nearly nine years ago ffs. He had no involvement in subsequent government. We all knew the problems inherent in a referendum question like we had over Brexit.
It was certainly possible to do Brexit in a way that stayed true to the fundamental ideals of the vote. For some reason the Tories decided to do the opposite.
Alistair Campbell has the blood of anywhere between 500,000 and 1,500,000 human beings on his hands, most of them innocent civilians.
So he can shove his opinions all the way up his arse.
Why should someone with no political power take responsibility? There is no good reason why Brexit could not have been successful.
The responsibility for arranging a good deal with the EU fell to the government in power. They fumbled the ball. There was no inherent reason why we wouldn’t have been able to get a good deal
No one has done more to increase immigration to the UK than Nigel Farage. It is not a coincidence that his influence in politics is directly linked to soaring immigration. He doesn’t actually care, otherwise he would act differently. He is a pure opportunist, a political arsonist who is happy to cry “fire” on one hand while pouring petrol with the other.
Ah yes, morality lessons from the man who’s lies lead to a million deaths in Iraq.
I’m permanently baffled by his public rehabilitation.
As horrifying as it sounds I was quite happy with the outcome of Brexit at the time (I voted Remain btw).
Purely because I put a £500 bet on it going the other way and made £3.5k. I just had a feeling it was going to go the other way though, and in 2016 I put a bet on Trump to win for £500 when Bernie was still on the cards and that paid for my first flat with a nearly 50% deposit.
Did the same in 2020 and lost £500 but I did the same before Biden stepped down in 2023 and 12/1 at £500 so £6k. I can probably afford to put my heating on.
Farage is such a scumbag though, he knows exactly what he has done, but “It’s OK lads, I’m just like you! Look I drink real ale!” It’s so easy to fool the majority of people and sadly so many people fell for it, same with Trump. I’ve just seen it happen too many times and they don’t even realise that they have been fooled.
He doesn’t mention UKIP anymore either because it was basically a “shinier” version of the BNP, but everyone knows, you can’t polish a turd for very long.
Every time Farrage goes on a show they need to get someone who will tear him a new arsehole.
Maybe then he won’t want to come on to spout his hate filled bile as much.
I wish he’d vanish, I left X to get away from all the Reform c*nts
To an impartial observer that man Farage wiped the floor with them last night. It was rather entertaining to see.
And honestly after Dr Kelly and Iraq Campbell has some brass neck lecturing anyone let alone an MP.
I trust the BBC only provided tea and juice.
Farage is a total cunt, but Campbell is a bigger cunt, a dossier full of lies to push through a war in Iraq that killed or wounded 1m civilians, I’d say that’s pretty cunty.
But this is just an example of spin and manipulation
The Remainers aren’t stupid (so they tell me)
So they well know that Farage wasn’t in charge of what happened after Brexit.
We could have had a May deal but that was blocked by the pro Remain MPs in parliament at the time, and how that backfired! We ended up with the awful Boris deal.
I’ll never understand why Corbyn didn’t have some guts and stood up for a left lead deal, wouldn’t that have been the best scenario for lefty remainer types? Baffling that he didn’t come out say he would deliver a better Brexit.
Whatever.
Farage didn’t do the deal. How can he be responsible?
Want to see he what he might do with the power? Keep this up and we might find out. Trump got back in because of the establishment’s refusal to listen to what people want. Democracy isn’t about delivering a perfect government. It’s about arriving at a government that does what the people want.
Many still aren’t getting this and they will lose again. Which is a worry.
The applause should tell farage enough, if he even is aware of us common folk.
All “froth” on top of the cappuccino AFTER the event.
The factual reality is:
1. UK entered the EEC in 70s because UK Establishment already decided that in the 60s then used 2 major tactics to push it through: (1) Purposeful bait and switch on Common Market vs Political Union (2) Post accession referendum AFTER joining via executive choice by the UK Establishment. A betrayal of the foundations of the social contract between state and citizen.
2. Brexit is little different in Deception of Politicians on People: Remain never argued honestly concerning both joining the EURO and signing the EU CONSTITUTION for a Federal future and Leave deliberately SCUTTLED the soft exit options via complicity with Politicians in both UK and EU ultimately punishing the people for political mechanism reasons eg necessity of clear split for visual optics of leaving the Treaties which conflate Market with Political Powers. Ie so other voters and electorates would not “copy cat“ Brexit thus self-harm was paramount ie full deception.
Ie One of the greatest sins of all abuse of power = Coercion.
What small fry such as Farage and Campbell have to say is immaterial. Two professional liars for public consumption and “Mythsteria” generation. Only fit for the talking box soma supply.
The farce that is Brexit was based on lies from Farage and co, and they’ll drag the country down if Reform ever get in.
Good. It needs repeating to his face at every opportunity. Everything he wanted and liked – Brexit, Liz Truss’s mini budget – has failed and been discredited. Never let him forget.
> skewers
That’s certainly one way of looking at it. I’ve always found it rather weird to blame the man whom the conservatives wouldn’t have anywhere near the negotiations or post Brexit transition or a policy building
Problem is we’ll never know what could have been. We had Theresa May, a supporter of the EU, negotiating the deal.
Whether it was a good idea or not, May and her advisors fucked it royally. May still have ended up poorly, but given who was in charge of key points of leaving the EU, it damaged it greatly