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    1. And the ascension to power of the leader of a group currently proscribed in the UK as a terrorist organisation too?

    2. Plenty_Suspect_3446 on

      >On Sunday, hundreds of Syrians in Manchester celebrated Assad’s demise by singing, dancing and crying in the city centre, while [dozens of people also gathered in Belfast to celebrate the end of his regime](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y4v42n9m4o).
      There were also celebrations in London’s Trafalgar Square. Sabri Chikhou, a Syrian who was among those at the event, told Reuters news agency: “We are going towards democracy and building a new Syria with a new system, democratic system.
      “And we will depend on society and establishment, not to the single regime who control every part in our country.”
      “I think every Syrian person, every free Syrian person is very overwhelmed and very happy because finally we can say that Syria is a free country now,” she added.

      Time for them to all go back. No more asylum or refugee status needed, their homeland needs them.

    3. terrordactyl1971 on

      Soon to be replaced with a new barbaric regime of extremist warlords? Isn’t this the usual pattern in the middle east?

    4. I am absolutely not saying Assad was good, but the new leader is literally AQ & ISIS. How can anyone – except Islamists – support this?

    5. What a fool. He thinks Al Q rebels are a better alternative…..we are led by utter fools. Oh and does that mean Syrians are going to return home now then??

    6. bateau_du_gateau on

      So we have replaced an unpleasant but stable, secular regime with religious fundamentalists, because that worked so well in Libya and Iraq.

    7. The only clear lesson of all of these affairs is that it never benefits us. Very few of the Syrian refugees in the UK celebrating tonight will be keen enough to want to give up western living standards and go back home. And millions more will leave Syria for Europe next year and spread themselves out among ourselves, France and Germany for the remainder of their lives.

    8. Agreeable_Falcon1044 on

      Yes it is great Assad is gone….but not sure these guys are getting the freedoms they want! I would probably hold fire praising any regime change until we are certain the new one isn’t worse than the old…

    9. Perfect place for that ‘Moe kicking Barney out of the pub’ meme

      Kicking out the evil Assad regime only to be replaced by an evil Islamic cultist regime. Congrats, Syria.

    10. DerpDerpDerp78910 on

      Fucks sake. 

      Been quiet for a decade and then we decide to have an opinion. Load of bollocks!

    11. Given who’s winning power, it probably would’ve been better to keep the mouth shut on this one to avoid accusations of association.

      Yes, Assad was an oppresive, murderous dictator, and yes, his defeat deals a massive blow to Russia. But otherwise, there’s nothing positive for us out of this. The civil war won’t end and the people who now rule Syria are about to turn it into another terrorist, rogue, failed state akin to ISIS that’s liable to immediately begin warring with its neighbours and causing trouble in Europe. Very likely that it will cause a 2nd great migrant crisis akin to 2015, as all the groups who Assad tolerated (or at least, targetted less than others) are now not quite so tolerated.

    12. I think we’ve seen this movie before. Iraq, Libya, anyone? How about Afghanistan in the 80s, when our governments funded the Mujahideen to overthrow the Russians?

    13. travelcallcharlie on

      ITT: r/uk would rather defend Assad before suggesting that Starmer could have possibly said something that is somewhat reasonable.

    14. MurkyFogsFutureLogs on

      Our media jubilantly cheered the overthrow of Saddam, Gaddafi, Mubarak and now Assad. The world didn’t become safer when they were removed, we weren’t safer back at home because of their removal or on the part of countries whose hand aided in their removal.

      What did the protestors of Tahrir Square in Egypt really give their lives for in the end? With western assistance toppling Mubarak only to elect an Islamist who was then removed by another dictator.

      And with Gaddafi gone we’ve seen migration from North Africa to Europe increase, ISIS and other extreme Islamist terror cells popped up eventually birthing agents who committed atrocities against mainly British tourists in two different locations abroad. Also the attack on Manchester Arena. Carried out by a son of a well-known Western backed Libyan rebel. (Who was rescued by the Royal Navy from Libya and brought here during the second Libyan civil war).

      In response to Iraq, a war we started based on a lie that saw the deaths of over a million people. We saw the 7/7 terror attacks perpetrated by radicalised Britons. We allowed Iraq to form its own government which has since gone on to develop strong ties with Iran and had strengthened its presence there. It’s said that ISIS in Iraq was founded in some part by former Saddam loyalists. When ISIS originally invaded Iraq, the Iraqi army fled leaving millions of dollars of ex-U.S military equipment fall into the hands of ISIS.

      In Afghanistan we occupied a country for 20 years and even with the best equipment in the world, the most powerful economies we couldn’t crush the indigenous political structure. Leaving millions of dollars of ex mainly American military equipment behind for the “enemy” we had been fighting for the past 20 years when we eventually left.

      What comes next for Syria could be much worse than what it’s had for the past 52. We will have to wait and see, but it’s not looking good. Both Turkey and Israel are being expansionist and taking advantage of a situation both have a hand in making. I wonder whether they might one day butt heads over Syria. Is this would be something we should be concerned about?

      Will the rebranded Al-Qaeda keep its word about not harassing minorities in Syria? When will the fighting between their Turkish allies and the SDF cease? Does the West stand to receive an uptick in migrants fleeing the recent instability?

      We’ll just have to wait and see.

    15. To clarify some things , power has been consolidated by Joulani of the HTS. All the rebel groups but the Kurds support him. Minority groups support him since his forces has been preventing sunni men from looting and burning their cities. And he has promised local elites power sharing .

      For Syrians , they trust his word because he has been governing the largest rebel province for the past 8 years. They know how he governs . Christians are able to practice without much harassment with their property rights protected. Women continue to attend college and even work in the government. He beats up protestors but rarely kills them .

      He isn’t a nice man but his group hasn’t been targeted by the west for years for a reason .