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    We will not pay Waspi women any compensation, Labour Government says

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    2. PriorSafe6407 on

      Good, the whole idea is a joke. The WASPI name itself is in insult to the public’s intelligence, it’s for inequality, not against it.

    3. Thetonn on

      I am glad that we have a sensible, mature government that has finally given them what they genuinely deserve.

      The idea that we should tax working people to pay compensation for people annoyed that an unequal and unfair system came to an end is just insanity.

    4. sjw_7 on

      Good. This change has been know about for decades and was incredibly well communicated to everybody. I cant believe it even got to this stage without being thrown out.

    7. Bug_Parking on

      John McDonell announcing has transfer them fifty something billion a few days before an election was some of the worst politics I’ve ever seen.

    8. Striking_Smile6594 on

      Given that I am unlikely to be able to retire until I’m at least 70 I’m not sure why I’m supposed to feel much sympathy with a group people who think they are hard done by because they can’t retire until they are 64.

      This is equality in action, and the change was publicised well in advance.

    9. JayR_97 on

      This whole waspi thing is just so ridiculous. They had literally decades of warning the age was going to change. It’s not the governments fault if they didn’t plan properly

      Millennials would be laughed out of the room if they came to the government asking for money because the retirement age went up

    10. MrPloppyHead on

      not entirely sure that a change of 2 years would have had much of an impact especially with 8 years of prior notice of the change.

      Shrugs shoulders

      it was always pretty bad that men had to work longer especially with the lower life expectancy.

    11. test_test_1_2_3 on

      Good, the stupidity of having ‘inequality’ being the main theme of their movement when they are fighting to maintain inequality.

      I’m sure they’ll continue to bleat but it’s best just to ignore them going forward. I don’t see any of the major parties making this party of their election promises next GE so there’s not much point pandering any further.

    13. Hot-Palpitation4888 on

      In a long line of injustices meted out by the current stasi inspired Labour Party this is by far the worst! These women have given their lives for this country; working their fingers to the bone for affordable housing and economic growth. And there payment? the inability to take 3 holidays a year. It’s disgusting

    14. Professional-Bag-216 on

      They had 7 years from a 2011 – 2018 to find out.
      They have a higher life expectancy on average and work less (especially those of that age, was only around 30/40% in the 60s iirc) so they contribute less in tax and then get a pension earlier. Come on.

      Based on the life expectancy and the previous difference in pension eligibility age they got roughly an average of 10 years of extra pension payments.
      But they didn’t get a letter so obviously they couldn’t have found out any other way.

      We want equality, we want equality… No not like that.

      We’re the ones paying for their pensions now too, and it’s very likey both people in the family paying taxes to do so.
      Whilst also having to pay into a private pension as we’ll probably never see the state pension.
      And if that wasn’t enough, the pension age keeps going up.

      Thought these old people were all wise, that’s what im often told whenever im in an argument/debate with them.

      Shut up, an estimated £3.5bil because you (supposedly) didn’t check when nearing your pension age of the details of it, if anything has changed.
      I remember the fucking thing being announced, and they’re the main demographic for newspapers which featured it.

      They’re either really fucking stupid or simply want a few extra quid – i bet there is a small minority of genuine ignorance the rest are opportunists. Probably tories too so an extra fuck you.

      Edit: damn, some are saying it’s now potentially a £10 billion+ cost.
      A proper wealth tax would easily cover it.
      This system is shite.

    15. Serifini on

      > Now, MP Kendall has said that the ‘injustice can’t go on.’

      She said: “As a result of changes made in 2011, women across the UK are now suffering financial hardship – with 3300 women affected in Leicester West alone. This injustice can’t go on. I have been a longstanding supporter of the WASPI campaign and I was proud to meet WASPI women again in Parliament recently to sign their pledge and reaffirm my commitment to support their campaign.”

      https://www.lancs.live/news/cost-of-living/waspi-injustice-cant-go-on-27706689

      Strange how getting a cabinet post affects your memory…

    17. Serdtsag on

      SNP aren’t even trying to hide it anymore, all they aim to do is score points against Westminster by contradicting whichever way they can. Reintroducing WFP, only now scrapping the 2-child benefit and now Stephen Flynn publicly supporting WASPI, just so they can score points against Labour first and foremost.

    18. Atomiswave on

      Oh god, mother (who retired in her 50s, has a massive house and several holidays a year) is going to go on about this all Christmas

    19. Yes-no-possible on

      This is fair.

      After all, no one was offering to pay men the missing years of state pension when they equalised pay in the 70s but didn’t equalise retirement age until 30 years later.

    20. sleepfaII on

      Being real, i’m highly dubious the state pension will exist in its current form when people in their 20s / 30s now get to retirement age so i feel very little sympathy

    21. Far_wide on

      If I, at the age of 41, am aware that the SP has recently risen from 65 to 66 and is going to be (at the very least) now 68 for when i reach SP age in *quarter of a century* then I really struggle to feel 1% of sympathy from people who couldn’t be bothered to check at any point in that 15 year notice period of the upcoming changes about their imminent retirement situation.

    22. leavemeinpieces on

      I remember seeing a full on tantrum and some tears about this from someone I worked with.

      I definitely didn’t know they had such advanced warning.

      I’m working on the basis that no pension is guaranteed. The next 30 years will definitely be interesting.

    24. Lettuce-Pray2023 on

      Well we’ll be paying for their health care as they lived to 80/90 something – so I’m sure they will regain some of the perceived losses.

    25. zonked282 on

      I’ve already had 3 changes to my retirement age in my lifetime, can I have a payout too? Sure I’m only in my 30’s but I’m every bit as entitled to that money as these women

    26. Hot-Plate-3704 on

      100% correct decision. Taxing young people who will retire age 70 in order to pay “compensation” to people who retired at 63 or 64 would be completely immoral. The “Waspi” women are just out for what they can get.

    27. Astriania on

      Absolutely the correct decision, it was always disappointing that this got pushed along as far as it did.

      Everyone was made very well aware of how pension ages were changing, you had to be living under a rock not to know.

      It’s particularly galling when they’re complaining about an inequality being fixed, and demanding compensation for their former privilege. You wouldn’t expect a bunch of men to demand compensation after equal pay legislation came in because they lost their privilege, and women getting pensions 5 years earlier is clear and obvious sex discrimination.

    28. AstoranSolaire on

      A campaign against “inequality”… where they take issue with the government equalising the state pension age… seems a little antithetical.

    29. Soldarumi on

      My MIL is one of those. She gave up work before she was 50 for a ‘mental health’ issue (she got shouted at by her boss one day), managed to scam the government out of 15 years of disability and PIP money, so she still got her NI years.

      She still has the fucking gall to moan that she’s “not getting the money she’s owed” until after her birthday in a couple of weeks because of the stupid government making it unfair for women like her, so thinks she’s owed compensation for her ‘trouble’. Makes me sick…

    30. Hot_and_Foamy on

      Note these women wanted £10,000 each.

      Because they weren’t allowed to retire earlier than men.

    32. umtala on

      Good. The idea that people with a state pension age of 68 should pay compensation to people “unfairly” getting their state pension delayed until age 66 is frankly insulting.

      How the hell is it my fault? I wasn’t even able to vote at that time. You know who was able to vote? The Waspi women.

    34. xe3to on

      You hear that? That’s the world’s smallest violin playing just for them.

      My mum is gonna go nuts about this lol. She’s in a very strong financial position but if you ask her this government has a vendetta against pensioners – frankly it makes a change from the vendetta the Tories had against the young.

    35. wkavinsky on

      Please sir, can I also have some free money for something I was told was going to affect me (checks notes) **20 fucking years ago**.

      3 grand a year for the rest of my life should do it.

    36. caeseron on

      Why would they get compensation when it was just bringing the retirement age in line to the same as men?

    37. JamJarre on

      Fantastic. The whole thing is a total joke. As though it’s anyone’s responsibility but your own to plan your retirement

    38. qaQaz1-_ on

      I cannot believe people are portraying this (especially in the Times) as some huge travesty. This is an incredibly reasonable decision from Starmer.

    39. WhydYouKillMeDogJack on

      This got a lol from me:

      >Women Against State Pension Inequality (WASPI) is a voluntary UK-based organisation founded in 2015 that campaigns against the way in which the state pension age for men and women was equalised

      How can you call your org that and literally be campaigning against being made equal?

    40. DesperateArm8365 on

      Good. Retiring at 64 is an amazing dream for millennials. It’ll be 75+ for us.

      My entire retirement plan ignores the state pension as I assume it won’t exist anyway.

    41. Acceptable-Store135 on

      Imagine the audacity to ask for compensation for removing an unfair privelage over other members of society.

    42. ZuikoUser on

      Based.

      For once, people born after generation entitled don’t have to bend over backwards to support those that pulled up the ladder.

      Boomers can moan all they want, they’ve had decades to prepare for retirement. It’s not the responsibility of the tax payer to shoulder their poor financial planning.

    44. Biggeordiegeek on

      Good

      Boomers should not be paid compensation, which will be funded from the taxes of people who may never be able to retire, because they didn’t think 16 years of notice was enough

      Ignorance of your own doing is not grounds for compensation

    45. Real-Fortune9041 on

      My experience of WASPI women is that the low paid working class were fully aware of the changes to retirement age and planned accordingly.

      Those complaining are generally the middle classes who just assumed they could never be adversely affected and are embarrassed about being shown up as financially illiterate or disorganised.

      I remember reading about a woman who supposedly found out (was told by a younger woman) at her leaving party that she wouldn’t be receiving her first state pension payment the following Monday!

      Those who complain generally start by telling us they’re “very financially astute”. They’re actually anything but.

    46. jerusalemdd on

      Had an argument with my mum over this earlier. Just can’t be pretending to be sympathetic that she won’t get compo when I’ll definitely have to work to an older age than this myself.

      She also moans that they aren’t getting a free £200 to pay for heating despite having money to pay it anyway.

      She also voted Brexit.