Keir Starmer vows to rebuild Britain as Labour did after second world war
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/31/keir-starmer-vows-rebuild-britain-as-labour-did-after-second-world-war?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
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Keir Starmer vows to rebuild Britain as Labour did after second world war
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/31/keir-starmer-vows-rebuild-britain-as-labour-did-after-second-world-war?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
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Clement Atlee actually had a spine, and a sweeping vision.
Starmer is not that guy.
Is there really a need to post this stuff here? It’s just a bit wearisome and pathetic that these kind of articles are being pumped out, like a dog trying to pass a chewed up sock.
It almost seems like this guy is inviting the doom and gloom. Which isn’t necessarily something I object to, but it’s not what I expect from a politician in power.
You know what Labour did after the second world war?
Found the NHS and the Welfare State. The single greatest unambiguously good thing the UK has ever done in its history.
Not a single soul in the Labour party has the guts to do anything that transformative as it would directly step on the toes of their wealthy donors and benefactors.
E: Muting.
He seems devoid of enthusiasm and any passion. If any of these people cared for the UK and had any credibility, they would resign and leave it to someone more capable. Although I have no idea who that is and they probably have common sense enough not to want to do it anyway. One things for sure, it will be his family’s legacy for the next 100+ years and they won’t need to worry about money or contacts. That’s all being a Politician is about, feathering your nest and being your families legacy. Just like the decedents of MP’s from 200 years ago, they live in big mansions in the countryside and are still well connected. Thier brood are probably Hedge Fund Managers, asset stripping the country now.
God save the King eh?
Oh how I wish you believed in what you ‘vowed’. You feel that you have the right tools but we all know you are probably incapable. You have been half hearted in everything you’ve ever done, mediocre, pathetic. We shall stand back and watch you fail, not in a massive showstopper but tremblingly, disconsolately, ineffectually.
He’ll need to have some transformative policies then, but at least he’s got the 2017 and 2019 manifestos to look at for inspiration.
To be fair Truss and the Luftwaffe have a lot in common
Thing is he’s purged any mps who would support policies that would actually do this.
He will tinker round the edges and lose to a reform/tory coalition in 5 years. It is so so predictable.
Please just fix the damn trains the commute and the daily cost are criminal for a so called first world country
I’d love it if he could. I won’t hold my breath, but it would be good if he proves the doubters wrong
2025 im pretty sure the UK will slip back into recession again..
nah, they don’t like working class people anymore, the policy set is designed in Islington for Islington voters & their friends.
The parrells to the US democratic party are uncanny, with the left of the party they purged on the fictitious anti semitism charges, the new new labour party has no anchor & Starmer is no Atlee
It’s easy to say what they want to do
But so far their policies are doing the opposite
They are like a hen house of headless chickens
He needs to be bold on immigration or reform will be in next election.
Might want to start know mates 6 months gone and fuck all but doom and gloom and an inflationary budget
Things that are awful in the UK:
Water
Electricity
Gas
Trains routes
Costs to commute
NHS
Postal Service
Roads
Fibre optic
Please add.
I don’t trust anyone, Labour or Conservative to correct the errors of the previous government, it’s just an ongoing cycle of a worsening quality of life. Nothing will change, no one will care. Only the wealthy will ever benefit, learnt to accept that and just deal with it until I pass
We are probably at or nearing the top of the exponential economic growth curve. We need to be prepared for a post growth society. This isn’t the fault of any politicians, it is the result of our changing demographics and growing population. There is no way politicians will be able to match the growth of the post war period
Bullshit. Like the rest of the establishment they won’t do anything that doesn’t benefit the rich.
Wow, we’re all miserable. I think we should give him a chance. It’ll probably be quite gradual, but I can see things improving.
Don’t vow to do it. Actually do it.
You have a stonking majority and a population sick of the same old thing for the last 30 years. You’ve spent the first 6 months saying how shit things are and are tanking in the polls as a result.
You literally have nothing to lose. Just fucking go for radical change, for God’s sake.
Would Ladbrokes give odds on this being another lie? It’s worth £20 I reckon…
Yet another sound bite that is spineless with no intention of action, it’s just another pathetic attempt at propaganda
The difference was that was a real, left-wing government that committed to meaningful, powerful policies.
Neoliberalism doesn’t have the ambition, the skillset or the moral compass to do that, much like the right doesn’t.
I’d love to be proven wrong but i can’t see how that would happen.
Yeah he won’t, not because he is a liar or useless but because the general public by and large absolutely hate large scale infrastructure projects and will bitch, moan, complain and do everything they can to delay and cancel them if possible.
Also most people only can’t see past their own nose and have no patience so if something doesn’t benefit them directly and instantly they will automatically be against it.
I have no hope for this.
Its all getting so much worse each year
Fucking get on with it then cunt. Stop cutting funding and punishing normal people, start taxing millionaires and start funding social programes.
It’s hard to rebuild like that when you don’t have half a continent in your pocket underwriting your debts, nevermind the American bailouts.
Goodluck though
No chance 🤣 we had Clement Attlee, a great man. Keir Starmer the farmer harmer doesn’t even touch the sides.
War footing? Times have changed but luck charmer Starmer
Keir has neither the spine nor the bold vision required.
Nationalised industry with good wages and final salary pensions? Sign me up comrade
We don’t have the empire or the Marshall plan money though
Please god do something decent keir so that gobshite farage doesn’t get voted in
I don’t think they have the balls to do anything near that level.
Difficult job with Brexit cost using us £27 billion in lost trade a in the first two years, maybe Kier can send the disaster capitalist Brexiters , Farage, Aaron Banks, Crispin Odey, Rees Mogg etc who made millions out of it the bill?
[https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/18/brexit-cost-uk-27bn-in-lost-trade-in-first-two-years-review-finds](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/18/brexit-cost-uk-27bn-in-lost-trade-in-first-two-years-review-finds)
Honestly, not even got the balls to legalise cannabis. Something that would fill that 20bn hole in gains and savings very quickly. I expect very little but certainly less piss taking than under the tories
“Our Clem” didn’t smash up the family farms while encouraging tax avoidance via the abuse of APR.
It’s a weird Thatcherite version of socialism when the means of production are forced from the hands of the workers and into the arms of millionaires and multinationals.
Very weird.
I’d like there to he rebuilding, but I do wonder how far the rot has went and if it can be repaired.
Work doesn’t pay. The economy has flatlined, private and public investment is not ingrained in our culture . Therefore our businesses aren’t competitive and our public sector isn’t productive and is falling apart.
Pay is woeful.
NHS is a mess. Ambulances take hours, avoidable deaths, understaffed and overworked wards.
Public health is poor, shit life syndrome is rife.
Infrastructure is crumbling. Our population has massively expanded and housing, transport, water, energy etc has not expanded to match this.
Demographic shifts – ethnic enclaves and distrust (I was reading the horrific court transcripts from the Oxford grooming gang – how can you fix the institutional rot that covered up this?). The impact of the Boris-wave will reverbert for decades to come and we are barely yet to feel it.
These things listed barely scratch the surface – not to mention pensions!
I dread to think it, but I feel it, that the rot is too deep and the whole UK house is slowly crumbling. I’m patriotic but I’ve started to examine exits. I hope I’m wrong though and the rebuilding can commence, but it would have to be fast, ruthless, and expansive – ultimately I don’t think labour have the appetite to do that. Even the processes of government they have chosen to adopt are the antithesis of this: there are what, 60 reviews ongoing? And government loves a consultation.
Give me a break. Clement Attlee did what was necessary for the country, not what was convenient the wealthy.
If empty platitudes were rolls of insulation, Starmer would have provided enough to cover every house in England.
Lies. He’s not interested in this country doing well.
Oh shut up starmer you melon. I’m in my mid 30’s now and have been through the 08 crash, Brexit, COVID.
I’ve come to accept it will never be better, I’ve got to make it better for myself and then I’ll die.
‘The financial crash means that we have to make tough decisions..’
‘In ten years we will…’
‘We have to think about 20 years down the line…’
‘Well Brexit means that..’
‘Well because of COVID we had to..’
‘Well you see the conflict in Ukraine means instability for..’
You’ll spend your entire life waiting for the results from these sycophants (no matter which party) while they gorge themselves, on all of the fruits their positions of power allow them.
Ooh f@&) does he mean we’ll all be back on rations !
I’ll believe it when I see it. And I’m not seeing it anywhere in this present government
Attlee had the advantage of the wartime manufacturing base and budget surplus.
Starmer has neither, and we owe 100% of GDP and rising.