I’m not sure what to think, and I’m hoping some of you can help me make sense of this. From what I know, my father is 100% Georgian, and his entire side of the family has lived in Georgia for as long as anyone can remember. My mom is Portuguese and part Italian, which was reflected accurately in the results. But somehow, it turns out I’m Armenian? I don’t get it.
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Posted by JohnxFreud
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How do you find out that
Well, back in the days tribes used to attack each other and SA was common.. so i don’t think one can be pure blood French, Dutch, Ukrainian etc
Looks like you’re Armenian, welcome. Many Georgians would be surprised after doing a dna test
Rekt
would half jewish work well for you?
Բարի գալուստ to the family, my friend. I don’t know exactly, but maybe a lot of things were hidden after 1915 and they ran away and hid or maybe a lot of other things?
I had a Georgian friend who lived in Armenia for years until he found out he was Georgian. Did he stop speaking, understanding and being basically like an Armenian even after moving to Georgia? No.
Despite your blood, you can still be said to be Georgian because you know the language, culture and if you feel at home in Georgia, you are a Georgian with roots from Armenia. You haven’t stopped being Georgian and I think that’s the coolest thing here 🇬🇪
Many such cases
We are so small, it prob lumps us in with Armenians
Most of these are not very accurate
Put it on illustrative DNA
Whats your haplogroup
გაუმარჯოს. Download the raw data and upload it on illustrativeDNA, costs 20$ but it is worth it. You get more comprehensive results.
If your paternal grandparents are still alive you could ask them to do the test and you’ll get more information on this side. (Or your father could do it, but ideally grandparents is best.)
There are a LOT of Georgians hiding or forgetting their Armenian/Azerbaijani/etc. ancestry for generations.
I myself am 50% Georgian and 50% European, and it’s fascinating, in a bad way, how my European side of the family remembers way more of its ancestry than the Georgian side.
People here used to be remarkably DARK in the 19th-20th centuries.
This self-phobia and hiding of truth has, in turn, caused many problems, ethnic tensions, and real consequences in modern day that we have to think about fixing now.
Forgetting truth and facts hurts everyone. Nothing good comes from it.
As for your heritage, if your father considers himself Georgian and has lived his whole life in Georgia, he is Georgian. He is no less Georgian than any other Georgian from Georgia.
Be proud of your diverse Georgian-Armenian ancestry.
Where did you get this data from ? I want to do it too
Pay attention to which region are you from in Georgia? Or your family’s previous generation all have been from Tbilisi? What is your last name? How long do you see it being in the history record? Does it end with Shvili? It was quite common for people of different ethnicities to adopt Georgian sounding last names for better integration. And often they used the ending of Shvili.
Have you ever been to Georgia or met your other relatives? Maybe they are Georgian Armenians, from Javakheti region or Tbilisi.
Maybe your father was adopted or something like this? Ask and explore lol
IIRC Georgian Catholics in certain areas are genetically like Armenians, which might mean their ancestors were assimilated. OTOH Tehran coming up on your results is interesting.
Are your matches Georgian or Armenian? Also, what’s your paternal haplogroup?
True. My mom’s a doctor and she had suspicions of such things happening even before it got revealed.
Your father may have Armenian roots. Many Armenian families have changed their last names to Georgian last names or “georgianized” variants of their last names. You can actually look it up online, you would be surprised how many Georgian last names have non-georgian roots, most of them being of armenian origin.
What company did u use?
I don’t believe in this shit! I was born in Georgia, half Russian and half Georgian. Did dna test and 95% of Eastern European, 1% Asian and nothing connected to geographically or Georgian. Was thinking if my mom not my bio mom lol. But ppl say I do look a little bit like her
Not a single comment explaining that you need to download your DNA data file and actually manually compare your DNA to existing samples.
Do you even know your y chromosome and MTN haplogroups?
If I’m right it higley depends on your home region of georgia. For example: kahetians and megrelians are less genetically related than the same kahetians and maybe Lori’s armenians. And the app just shity and bad at divided caucasus ethnicities and mostly puts everybody into “armenians” group.
For example: I have a friend from svaneti, and he is pure svanetian down to the generations (at least by his words) and other service shown that he has Circassian/Turkish ancestry
So you are everywherian except Georgian?
I guess topic started doesn’t look Georgian
give me your raw dna file and i will tell you who you are
All the genetics tests are highly dependent on the genetic’ company sample pool. As in if not many Georgians applied for the test – company wouldn’t know who to compare with and come up with too broad answer or to the closest they have markers wise (Armenian?!)
If you really interested- apply for another test with another company and compare results. Also sometimes results are changing/ correcting after a while when the company has more genetic samples to work with.
These services have very limited data from a lot of places around the world. The whole genome of humans is an expensive research topic and very few things have been done up until now to support the enrichment of these data worldwide. Unfortunately, there is basically zero data to pinpoint those particular genes, which might make one so called Georgian or not. It can be said the same for other nations with a smaller populations. But in this case, as Armenian population is represented more in US and France, these companies have the access to these individuals to collect more data about the genome of an Armenian individual and include them in their database and in general it makes sense to have an overlapping genes with the individuals represented in the same region, Caucasus. As the time goes by and technology becomes more readily available the more data is going to be accumulated and databases updated to the point, where it would be much more possible to really pinpoint an individual to a certain geo location. To conclude, you might even have a lot more mixed with other nations in your DNA or even not, unfortunately it is impossible to know for sure at this moment, so be skeptical about this report and I personally would say do not use these services at all, all of them are reporting BS almost all the time.