So on something like this, assuming the Delta pilot was in error, does SpaceX have any legal recourse? Like can they make Delta pay for the cost of the scrubbed launch? I’m genuinely curious how that works.
SuperRiveting on
Is there ever any sort of compensation for having to scrub a launch due to violations?
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F1grid on
Whoops. Going to be a lot of meetings after that one.
rocketsocks on
Wasn’t really expecting a full on war between SpaceX and commercial aviation just yet.
mattbatt1 on
SpaceX did try to blast a bunch of planes out of the sky over the Caribbean this past week. They can’t complain too much about violating air space when people are filming parts of rockets falling overhead.
SRM_Thornfoot on
The controller said he was going to vector them around R-2517, which he did.
SpaceX was concerned about R-2516, which the plane was vectored through.
Does anyone have a copy of the actual NOTAM? Was it for R-2516 or R-2517?
Edit: they are both active continuously, so was there even a specific NOTAM regarding the launch?
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Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[FAA](/r/Space/comments/1i5dswu/stub/m83dokv “Last usage”)|Federal Aviation Administration|
|GSE|Ground Support Equipment|
|[IFR](/r/Space/comments/1i5dswu/stub/m8361bz “Last usage”)|[Instrument Flight Rules](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_flight_rules)|
|[KSC](/r/Space/comments/1i5dswu/stub/m83mbrk “Last usage”)|Kennedy Space Center, Florida|
|[NOTAM](/r/Space/comments/1i5dswu/stub/m846qp4 “Last usage”)|[Notice to Air Missions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOTAM) of flight hazards|
|[TFR](/r/Space/comments/1i5dswu/stub/m8361bz “Last usage”)|Temporary Flight Restriction|
|Jargon|Definition|
|——-|———|—|
|[scrub](/r/Space/comments/1i5dswu/stub/m833cxo “Last usage”)|Launch postponement for any reason (commonly GSE issues)|
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Air Traffic Control tapes for this incident can be heard [here](https://youtu.be/4RMhf0YELrA)
So on something like this, assuming the Delta pilot was in error, does SpaceX have any legal recourse? Like can they make Delta pay for the cost of the scrubbed launch? I’m genuinely curious how that works.
Is there ever any sort of compensation for having to scrub a launch due to violations?
Oh good, personal attacks. Great Community 10/10
Whoops. Going to be a lot of meetings after that one.
Wasn’t really expecting a full on war between SpaceX and commercial aviation just yet.
SpaceX did try to blast a bunch of planes out of the sky over the Caribbean this past week. They can’t complain too much about violating air space when people are filming parts of rockets falling overhead.
The controller said he was going to vector them around R-2517, which he did.
SpaceX was concerned about R-2516, which the plane was vectored through.
Does anyone have a copy of the actual NOTAM? Was it for R-2516 or R-2517?
Edit: they are both active continuously, so was there even a specific NOTAM regarding the launch?
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|——-|———|—|
|[FAA](/r/Space/comments/1i5dswu/stub/m83dokv “Last usage”)|Federal Aviation Administration|
|GSE|Ground Support Equipment|
|[IFR](/r/Space/comments/1i5dswu/stub/m8361bz “Last usage”)|[Instrument Flight Rules](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_flight_rules)|
|[KSC](/r/Space/comments/1i5dswu/stub/m83mbrk “Last usage”)|Kennedy Space Center, Florida|
|[NOTAM](/r/Space/comments/1i5dswu/stub/m846qp4 “Last usage”)|[Notice to Air Missions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOTAM) of flight hazards|
|[TFR](/r/Space/comments/1i5dswu/stub/m8361bz “Last usage”)|Temporary Flight Restriction|
|Jargon|Definition|
|——-|———|—|
|[scrub](/r/Space/comments/1i5dswu/stub/m833cxo “Last usage”)|Launch postponement for any reason (commonly GSE issues)|
Decronym is now also available on Lemmy! Requests for support and new installations should be directed to the Contact address below.
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